So Nitrogen You Need No Verification Docs or Real Names??

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    So Nitrogen You Need No Verification Docs or Real Names??
    Huh??
  • raiders72001
    Senior Member
    • 08-10-05
    • 11119

    #2
    Originally posted by jjgold
    Huh??
    No docs needed, totally anonymous. They have a feature where they give you the choice to add two factor authentication to prevent hacking.

    It also looks, as of today, they added a feature where you have to check a box to make sure that you are human. All books should take these precautions.
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    • raiders72001
      Senior Member
      • 08-10-05
      • 11119

      #3
      UK IPs are banned but a VPN gets you in.
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      • Limited
        SBR Sharp
        • 09-18-15
        • 303

        #4
        Do they limit sharp bettors? How can they prevent limited battors from opening second, third account (multiple accounts) if they don't require the ID verification?
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        • raiders72001
          Senior Member
          • 08-10-05
          • 11119

          #5
          Originally posted by Limited
          Do they limit sharp bettors? How can they prevent limited battors from opening second, third account (multiple accounts) if they don't require the ID verification?
          Nitrogen doesn't limit anyone. Multi-accounting isn't allowed. I'm not sure what precautions or measurements that they take to prevent multiple accounts.
          Last edited by raiders72001; 11-05-15, 08:40 PM.
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          • Limited
            SBR Sharp
            • 09-18-15
            • 303

            #6
            Nitrogen doesn't limit anyone. Multi-accounting isn't allowed.
            Hmm, this means that they are sharp as Pinnacle or Asians on soccer lines otherwise it can't last long. BTC keeps majority of arbers, traders out for now I guess, but it can change fast.
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            • sheepgotwool
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-18-14
              • 337

              #7
              Nitrogen has a lot of garbage lines. Lots of squares play there. You can tell by the guys chatting up a storm on the top of the page ! It was quite hilarious how many squares are out there.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61461

                #8
                Originally posted by Limited

                Hmm, this means that they are sharp as Pinnacle or Asians on soccer lines otherwise it can't last long. BTC keeps majority of arbers, traders out for now I guess, but it can change fast.
                Think you are right that this a reason it works, so far.

                But also think they know how to make money on their BTC holdings as well as enjoying a larger square base of BTC holders who do not value their bitcoin the same way people value fiat currency.
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                • scholesy
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-03-07
                  • 517

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Limited
                  Hmm, this means that they are sharp as Pinnacle or Asians on soccer lines otherwise it can't last long. BTC keeps majority of arbers, traders out for now I guess, but it can change fast.
                  You are correct, they have real sharp soccer lines, not so much on American Sports though...
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Why no UK people??
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                    • HeeeHAWWWW
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-13-08
                      • 5487

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Limited
                      Hmm, this means that they are sharp as Pinnacle or Asians on soccer lines otherwise it can't last long. BTC keeps majority of arbers, traders out for now I guess, but it can change fast.
                      On tennis, it looks like they're just copying pinnacle lines and adding 3c juice on each side. Soccer seems to be the same, about 2c on hcaps/totals. It's probably a % rather than a fixed number of cents though, I only looked at near 50/50 lines because I'm lazy.

                      Plenty risks to that, but with lower limits it's probably manageable.
                      Last edited by HeeeHAWWWW; 11-06-15, 05:31 PM.
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                      • creditcardclown
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 11-28-10
                        • 242

                        #12
                        nitrogen just copies pin lines and adds juice so not sure what you people are talking about
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                        • PharaohUB
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-23-07
                          • 4865

                          #13
                          I am pretty sure they copy Pinnacle lines and add juice. Pinnacle changed something with their live betting NBA feed and Nitrogen didn't have live lines on NBA for a couple of days.

                          To be honest they seem to be so good at what they do so early on I wouldn't be surprised if they are in bed with one of the bigger books that don't take US action. It would make sense they would act and operate completely independently if they figured out that Bitcoin is a way they could take US action, but they wouldn't want their main book to be affiliated with it.
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                          • PharaohUB
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-23-07
                            • 4865

                            #14
                            In other words I feel pretty safe playing there.
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                            • Tom_Muller
                              Restricted User
                              • 09-10-15
                              • 5

                              #15
                              To be honest it doesn't sound safe to me. Bitcoin doesn't seem a safe currency and having anonymous online accounts is unheard of.
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                              • raiders72001
                                Senior Member
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 11119

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Tom_Muller
                                To be honest it doesn't sound safe to me. Bitcoin doesn't seem a safe currency and having anonymous online accounts is unheard of.
                                Nitrogen has been open since 2012 without any no pays. Their record is clean.

                                All the pure bitcoin books are anonymous. Some have a great track record.
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                                • Tom_Muller
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 09-10-15
                                  • 5

                                  #17
                                  In an ideal world we could all just bet on credit, settling up and getting paid out as and when necessary. Would save a lot of unnecessary transactions.
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                                  • Grivas_Digeni
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-08-15
                                    • 5307

                                    #18
                                    FYI: Bitcoin is not anonymous.
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                                    • raiders72001
                                      Senior Member
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 11119

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Grivas_Digeni
                                      FYI: Bitcoin is not anonymous.
                                      You can make it anonymous. A mixer will work but you can use a mixer, VPN and Tor to cover all tracks.
                                      Last edited by raiders72001; 11-10-15, 06:23 PM.
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                                      • EVfollower
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 05-05-14
                                        • 515

                                        #20
                                        Nitrogen uses Pinny lines and adds a penny or two of juice to each side. My guess is that they are linked to Pinny in the sense that heavy sharp or arb action on Nitrogen will also cause the lines of Pinny to move thus effecting everyone (since Pinny is considered the sharpest lines).

                                        Do NOT try to get around their maxes, I know a couple people who tried doing this, it did not work out well.
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                                        • Limited
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 09-18-15
                                          • 303

                                          #21
                                          Do NOT try to get around their maxes, I know a couple people who tried doing this, it did not work out well.
                                          And how exactly will they detect it if there is no ID verification needed. It s not very difficult to use different ISPs, with different IPs and different devices, so how can they prevent it without some kind of ID verification.
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                                          • eaglesphan4live
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 12-07-14
                                            • 2

                                            #22
                                            I would the idea, but I don't like having them stay in bitcoin form on deposit, the currency is too fluid to me. If bucks started to take something like nubits that would be great.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61461

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Limited

                                              And how exactly will they detect it if there is no ID verification needed. It s not very difficult to use different ISPs, with different IPs and different devices, so how can they prevent it without some kind of ID verification.
                                              Only real scammers are determined enough to maintain multiple devices and connections and never make an error by logging into an associated book on the wrong device unknowingly.

                                              Only innocent people who haven't tried think it's obvious and simple to get around.

                                              Then one error and boom... all those extra winnings are gone just when you needed them.
                                              Last edited by Optional; 11-11-15, 03:13 PM.
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