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  • Playon
    SBR High Roller
    • 12-19-14
    • 110

    #71
    Originally posted by gvolt62
    Hey guys, this cannot be like this. It is not possible to start a business, fail and then say "sorry guys, I failed, I can't pay you, I am terribly sorry but that's life. Bye bye. This guy who wrote this staff is a real person. He has to go to court. His company must be liquidated and if it worths 0 then he has to pay from his own property. We should not be pathetic on this ! We have to find him !
    Fully agree.

    George was actually gambling when took huge stakes knowing he never could pay out if house loses. It seems that he likes to have some excitement in his life...
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    • Playon
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-19-14
      • 110

      #72
      Originally posted by superhans
      what assets does a sportsbook have? Nothing... a few computers maybe
      As I know, Britsh books are required to have liquidity in their bank accounts to get the license. They have money behind but no one can bet without being limited in no time.
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      • superhans
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-29-14
        • 173

        #73
        Originally posted by Playon
        As I know, Britsh books are required to have liquidity in their bank accounts to get the license. They have money behind but no one can bet without being limited in no time.
        True. I'll rephrase my question - What assets does a book from Bulgaria, with a Curaco licence have?
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        • ddr967
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-17-15
          • 3

          #74
          Eur 2,491. all the money in medicine
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          • gvolt62
            SBR Rookie
            • 11-16-09
            • 22

            #75
            These guys that lost a lot of money have to "make" a union and put competitive lawyers or private investigators to search the whole thing. I understand that this money has 99% gone. But I hate thinking that this guy is now smoking his cigar in Hawaii considering his new project.
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            • vikilik
              SBR Rookie
              • 01-13-15
              • 5

              #76
              well, as a high-roller tipster I tried very soft with them, my account was fully verified. After I won pretty big on QPR - Leicester with 2.5 odds and betting amount of 3.3k eur, I withdrew my funds, the payout was almost instant, took less than half an hour.

              So it was some sort of the trust, also there was completely no bad news about them, some waves from professional or semi-professional tipsters about how is possible to operate with such a low margins took a place.
              But in december I started to win and my balance grew to 17.5k EUR.
              In January 02 I requested withdrawal and seems money gone.
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              • MrRed
                SBR Rookie
                • 12-18-14
                • 28

                #77
                My lawyer answered, why there is no chance to bring them to court in bulgaria

                companies like gobetgo.com if you can call that a company, form a complicated multijurisdictional structure that prevents clients from having simple access to justice, they form a Costa Rican company, get a license from Curacao and have operations in Bulgaria.

                So courts are only competent to decide on matters that took place in their territory, I believe that their TOS mention that all disputes have to be resolved in the courts of Curacao, so a Bulgarian court will not be competent.


                Regards,
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                • superhans
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 01-29-14
                  • 173

                  #78
                  Its because they are outside the EU. They may operate from Bulgaria, but from the legal side of things the company is costa rican.

                  If it went to court in Bulgaria, and you won then gobetgo will just ignore it. Its not like the EU can impose any sanctions etc on them.

                  You could try civil action against the owner and not the company. But thats dependant on you or the courts finding him, and then again he will need to step back into the EU to be arrested/and fine levied

                  You're best taking a holiday to Costa Rica with a bat...
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                  • kimis13
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 01-18-15
                    • 1

                    #79
                    Balance : 640 euro
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                    • dontknowhowtobet
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-21-09
                      • 2896

                      #80
                      I remember a user called "GoBetGo" posting in bettingadvice forum and calling people to join their website - that made me AVOID this website because it's too amateur. Also I tested their customer service email and I was not impressed at all ... so luckily I haven't lost anything with this website ... it's horrifying to read what happened to so many others here.

                      On the ironic side of all things - this name "GoBetGo" screams fraud to me, and it reminds me this song anytime I hear its name (just replace the "bet" with "girls" for the song):

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                      • Playon
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-19-14
                        • 110

                        #81
                        I just thought I withdraw from every Curacao licensed site as every one is potential fraudster, but Pinnacle seems to be one of them. "The company is fully licensed and regulated by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles (license number: 1668/JAZ), which requires the company to have the funds available to honour the winnings of its customers at all times.". Is it Curacao??



                        Seems pretty easy to have a license. Alrighty then, maybe I found a new book and run with your money.
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                        • kkkkk
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 03-30-09
                          • 523

                          #82
                          i remember well a case where a closed local casino started to offer online live casino service and they were busted from police. so im not sure if you complain to police in bulgaria u might have some success, at least u can make trouble to them. if you got all the proof of their identity
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                          • barstool
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 01-22-12
                            • 7

                            #83
                            I had roughly £212 in here when they went bust.

                            Could have been worse as there was nearly £800 in there before November. They paid out that withdrawal and there was one outstanding bet which won, leaving the balance above.

                            Have to say that I am not really too surprised at this, their verification process was weird, and they changed terms and conditions of offers mid way through. It's not the sign of a trustworthy book.
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                            • JayZ
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 03-19-12
                              • 184

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Playon
                              I just thought I withdraw from every Curacao licensed site as every one is potential fraudster, but Pinnacle seems to be one of them. "The company is fully licensed and regulated by the Government of the Netherlands Antilles (license number: 1668/JAZ), which requires the company to have the funds available to honour the winnings of its customers at all times.". Is it Curacao??



                              Seems pretty easy to have a license. Alrighty then, maybe I found a new book and run with your money.
                              Netherlands Antilles was dissolved in 2010. Pinnacle has a licence from the Government of Curaçao, previously a part of Netherlands Antilles.
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                              • Playon
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-19-14
                                • 110

                                #85
                                I'm thinking about bookmarkers and their security. Now that everybody is only worried about their money, I have to ask: Does anybody ever wonder what happens to their documents when some GObetGo or similiar is down? Are these documents handled and erased according to high security standards? Is George currently taking care of that?
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                                • Let's Go Rangers
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-18-12
                                  • 8918

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Joker10
                                  I have 7.000 eur on my balance.
                                  last year Canbet stolen me 4.000eur.

                                  Optional please, I can't lose 7.000eur ...

                                  I can't give to thieves 11.000 EURO earned by the sweat and intuition
                                  Wait....

                                  You have intuition

                                  You just got sodomized by a 2nd shop in 2 years.


                                  You not only DO NOT have intuition. ...you are the suckered these leeches dream of
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                                  • noyb
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-13-05
                                    • 971

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by Playon
                                    I'm thinking about bookmarkers and their security. Now that everybody is only worried about their money, I have to ask: Does anybody ever wonder what happens to their documents when some GObetGo or similiar is down? Are these documents handled and erased according to high security standards? Is George currently taking care of that?
                                    does anybody ever wonder what happens to their documents when a book i still up? you can think about it all you want, but the only alternative you have is to not bet online at all.
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 60728

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by noyb
                                      does anybody ever wonder what happens to their documents when a book i still up? you can think about it all you want, but the only alternative you have is to not bet online at all.
                                      There is a business opportunity for someone to offer a centralized verified ID for sportsbooks.

                                      It is disturbing how much ID all we bettors need to hand out to so many places.
                                      .
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                                      • Joker10
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 01-17-12
                                        • 77

                                        #89
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                                        • Joker10
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 01-17-12
                                          • 77

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Let's Go Rangers
                                          Wait....

                                          You have intuition

                                          You just got sodomized by a 2nd shop in 2 years.


                                          You not only DO NOT have intuition. ...you are the suckered these leeches dream of
                                          A comment really constructive and relevant.

                                          Optional, please bans from the forum this little person
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                                          • Optional
                                            Administrator
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 60728

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by Joker10
                                            A comment really constructive and relevant.

                                            Optional, please bans from the forum this little person
                                            He specializes in getting under peoples skin Joker. Just shake it off. ;-)
                                            .
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                                            • ddr967
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 01-17-15
                                              • 3

                                              #92
                                              There are no news'? someone managed to get the money? give me a hope
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                                              • the_orangekat
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-08-07
                                                • 1267

                                                #93
                                                This is why I'm glad I quit betting 2 months ago. It's hard enough to win but then you see crap like this happen when people do actually win.
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                                                • ddr967
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 01-17-15
                                                  • 3

                                                  #94
                                                  because deprive of a pleasure because of people who do not deserve to live in this world
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                                                  • sosayj
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 01-28-15
                                                    • 1

                                                    #95
                                                    GoBetGo

                                                    872,95 eur
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                                                    • BruceOxner
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 01-13-15
                                                      • 3

                                                      #96
                                                      My *********** company gave me back my initial deposit of € 500.
                                                      So I'm losing "only" my winnings of € 915,50 and € 50 deposit bonus.

                                                      I can live with that.
                                                      Lesson learned, time to move on.
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                                                      • minomanara
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 07-21-14
                                                        • 1

                                                        #97
                                                        300 euro!!
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