Wiill Pinnacle ever allow US players again?

**jjgold** · 12-09-14, 10:26 AM

5 Dimes and Heritage just as good

Pinnacle has wider markets now

Cantor in Vegas beats many of their lines now

**BChrisB** · 12-09-14, 11:10 PM

I have 5Dimes, but aren't they only for the recreational player? Basically, after death in the family etc, etc.. I took a 3 year hiatus from betting. Just trying to see who's on top now. I have 5dimes, Bookmaker, JustBet ... Looking for a fourth. I usually always used to stick with bookmaker and used the others when I was shopping for better lines, but I never liked bookmaker's baseball lines. I remember back in the US players welcome days Pinnacle had a true dime line. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

**ki dice** · 12-09-14, 11:41 PM

heritage has 108 on baseball.like JJ said they are just as good.quick payouts,and offer many things that pinny used to.

**BChrisB** · 12-09-14, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by ki dice

heritage has 108 on baseball.like JJ said they are just as good.quick payouts,and offer many things that pinny used to.

Heritage it is, before I sign up right now how do I give SBR the referral? Reason I ask if you look up on the page it ranks Heritage #2 but the link to the right is for Pinnacle.

**BChrisB** · 12-09-14, 11:54 PM

Nevermind, I figured it out.. silly me.

**jjgold** · 12-10-14, 10:25 AM

Pinny a thing a thing of the past

American Sport liquidity lacking now

good book but not fantastic anymore

**minet123** · 12-10-14, 03:29 PM

NO

**Domestic** · 12-10-14, 04:35 PM

The 5x rollover requirement when it comes to pinny has also made it less desirable for many.

**evo34** · 12-11-14, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Pinny a thing a thing of the past

American Sport liquidity lacking now

good book but not fantastic anymore

What do you mean? Heritage's limits are a fraction of Pinnacle's, and the juice is worse at Heritage if you get flagged as a non-recreational player -- which to heritage, is anyone who even shows the slightest sign of being sharp. Heritage will also try to deal "customized" lines to deter your action, and make it much harder to line shop using them. Heritage is fine overall, but very limited compared to Pinnacle.

**jjgold** · 12-11-14, 09:12 AM

Matchbook and Betfair for non usa players are your top 2 books now

**southmaniac6** · 12-11-14, 03:46 PM

I been asking this question

**indio** · 12-12-14, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Pinny a thing a thing of the past

American Sport liquidity lacking now

good book but not fantastic anymore

You're a thing of the past. If they had a pound for pound type rating for posts, your per word relevance factor would be incredibly low.

**jjgold** · 12-12-14, 08:50 AM

Matchbook beats Pinnacle all the time on lines
No comparison

**Hareeba!** · 12-12-14, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Matchbook beats Pinnacle all the time on lines
No comparison

Mostly that's correct for US sports and soccer.
BUT if you're a bigger punter than I, liquidity isn't near as great.
And Pinnacle offer a lot more markets than Matchbook.
Any serious player needs both (plus Betfair and SBO)

**jjgold** · 12-13-14, 12:47 PM

I think matchbook is the most underrated book for United States sports

**dealer wins** · 12-13-14, 06:43 PM

Pinny spanks MB, MB bots copy Pinny - 1/2%, then deduct their 1% commission also!!

Dont get me wrong I love MB, hope they bring Betfair down one day, but Pinny is in a different league!

**4seasons** · 12-13-14, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by evo34

What do you mean? Heritage's limits are a fraction of Pinnacle's, and the juice is worse at Heritage if you get flagged as a non-recreational player -- which to heritage, is anyone who even shows the slightest sign of being sharp. Heritage will also try to deal "customized" lines to deter your action, and make it much harder to line shop using them. Heritage is fine overall, but very limited compared to Pinnacle.

heritage is documented pure evil, and nothing but a thief, a disgrace and when it comes to customer service when they wrongfully grade a wager a loss and you call them on it, too bad, you lose, CASE CLOSED. Nothing but a dial tone left after that. I'd recommend a 'D' rated Book before you bless hideous heritage with anything.

Can't tell you how much I personally miss pinnacle, and way more than when will they open again for U.S., but when will U.S. open again for pinnacle and/or enable online American books by Americans for Americans to exist so the money never again has to go off shore to these woeful places that treat you any way they want but decent.

**Hareeba!** · 12-14-14, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by dealer wins

Pinny spanks MB, MB bots copy Pinny - 1/2%, then deduct their 1% commission also!!

Dont get me wrong I love MB, hope they bring Betfair down one day, but Pinny is in a different league!

I don't follow this.

Even AFTER commissions I find Matchbook's odds for US sports in particular beat Pinnacle more often than not.
And with their 0.5% commissions on soccer AHs even more frequently.
As for bringing down Betfair .. NO! They are by far and away the best place for horse players.