Youwager are theives. Got freerolled.

**NunyaBidness** · 04-19-14, 09:57 AM

Sounds like you got what you deserved to me.

**sourtwist** · 04-19-14, 10:06 AM

Its never going to be legal here

**sourtwist** · 04-19-14, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by NunyaBidness

Sounds like you got what you deserved to me.

depends on the whole story. For you to just say this without knowing is a dick comment, but expected from coksuckers on the internet.

**Maniac** · 04-19-14, 11:09 AM

Was the tennis match this time being traded live at the time, or was it a match that was just timed out incorrectly and therefore a late bet ? This could possibly explain a differences in settlement between a loss and the previous bet you mentioned that as voided.

If you make habit of placing late bets on events then you do leave yourself open to this sort of treatment from unscrupulous books and unfortunately don't have much comeback - I am not defending them, or saying it's right because it isn't, but at the same time from their point of view if they see clients keep on trying to place late bets and gain an unfair advantage then sooner or later they are going to think "Screw this guy"

When it comes to late bets, then there aren't many possible outcomes - either:

1. It gets noticed and voided (regardless of result) and your account possibly closed or limited.
2. It gets noticed and the book waits to see what the result is before voiding or letting it stand as a loser.
3. It gets noticed and the book takes it on the chin and pays out anyway, but makes a note of your account in case you try it again in future.
4. It doesn't get noticed at all and settled normally.

Out of all these scenarios, how often do you think the last 2 happen in comparison to the top 2 scenarios and does it happen often enough to payout enough to be worth the risk?

**timbaland99** · 04-19-14, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Maniac

Was the tennis match this time being traded live at the time, or was it a match that was just timed out incorrectly and therefore a late bet ? This could possibly explain a differences in settlement between a loss and the previous bet you mentioned that as voided.

If you make habit of placing late bets on events then you do leave yourself open to this sort of treatment from unscrupulous books and unfortunately don't have much comeback - I am not defending them, or saying it's right because it isn't, but at the same time from their point of view if they see clients keep on trying to place late bets and gain an unfair advantage then sooner or later they are going to think "Screw this guy"

When it comes to late bets, then there aren't many possible outcomes - either:

1. It gets noticed and voided (regardless of result) and your account possibly closed or limited.
2. It gets noticed and the book waits to see what the result is before voiding or letting it stand as a loser.
3. It gets noticed and the book takes it on the chin and pays out anyway, but makes a note of your account in case you try it again in future.
4. It doesn't get noticed at all and settled normally.

Out of all these scenarios, how often do you think the last 2 happen in comparison to the top 2 scenarios and does it happen often enough to payout enough to be worth the risk?

this is definitely a -ev situation

**dealer wins** · 04-19-14, 06:00 PM

Betting on an event that has started will be:

A: A hasstle to reputable books who will void it and possibly note you as a past poster
B: A golden goose who they can let losing bets ride but cancel winning bets

Conclusion: there is no value in trying to past post!

**relaaxx** · 04-19-14, 06:02 PM

past post wagers should be cancelled --always. the sportsbook just stole his money. if the wager was placed on purpose or not it still should be cancelled.

**shopp** · 04-19-14, 08:05 PM

My point is exactly what relaxx stated. A book that is legit cancels these no matter what this way there is no question to their integrity/motive. The fact that they cancelled the other wager (that won) and now this one clearly let's me know the operation I am dealing with.

**Redondo** · 04-19-14, 09:12 PM

how commmon is this stuff a book hanging a line on a event that has started, I think it's 100% pathetic for this to happen very oftern, I wouldn't know becuase i always make sure i get my bets in 20 minutes or so before events happen. For a book to have that line up for the unsuspecting dumbass blindly popping off wagers of the or for the shady guy well aware this game is started in his favor. It's pathetic either way and falls on the book in my opinion. That being said youwager always answers their phone, so if you would have objected to this immediatly they probably would have called it null and void and refunded the wager, but you waited it out and then call foul on them, shame on you!

**shopp** · 04-19-14, 10:20 PM

Yes Shame on me and then shame on them when they cancelled my wager which was a winner on a match that had just started and the guy I bet wasn't up a break. What happened today proved my concern about this book.

**DayLate$1Short** · 04-20-14, 12:26 AM

Not the best shop for value and options, but they are probably the best for payouts in my opinion. I'm not sure how much the bet in question was for, but it might just be best to let this one ride and not burn a good out.

**Robert Hirst** · 04-20-14, 10:02 AM

I like YouWager and BetPop. BetPop has better odds for parlays, each are great on payouts and they offer a wide variety of lines that allow you some flexibility when shopping the lines.

**UFC_FAN** · 04-20-14, 11:47 PM

Youwager is a great shop.

**sourtwist** · 04-21-14, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by UFC_FAN

Youwager is a great shop.

nice first post clown

**jjgold** · 04-21-14, 06:11 AM

seems like book took a shot

**captrobey** · 04-21-14, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by sourtwist

nice first post clown

Yes but overall i think they are a pretty decent book. Yes they will call you like crazy at times. Sometimes i get some good bonuses sometimes not . Seems like when you want them and are ready to deposit $500 or so you do not get them but then they call going nuts trying to get you to deposit like $100.

Plus they did not limit me when i was winning limits are not bad . Took awhile but i did get a little higher limits there too. I hit once there for $10000 and i got paid every cent in like a week i think it was . It was the only time i cashed out there but got paid and was not asked to leave even though i was up and still was getting bonuses here and there.

**Legions36** · 04-21-14, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by sourtwist

nice first post clown

But they are a good book, he isn't spamming for them. Just file a complaint form and let SBR work this out for u im sure it will fix itself.

**shopp** · 04-21-14, 06:02 PM

How do I submit a complaint? Sorry for being ignorant never filed one before.

**bostonboss** · 04-21-14, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by captrobey

Yes but overall i think they are a pretty decent book. Yes they will call you like crazy at times. Sometimes i get some good bonuses sometimes not . Seems like when you want them and are ready to deposit $500 or so you do not get them but then they call going nuts trying to get you to deposit like $100.

Plus they did not limit me when i was winning limits are not bad . Took awhile but i did get a little higher limits there too. I hit once there for $10000 and i got paid every cent in like a week i think it was . It was the only time i cashed out there but got paid and was not asked to leave even though i was up and still was getting bonuses here and there.

bad sign in my opinion when books beg for a 100 dollar deposit

**captrobey** · 04-21-14, 10:40 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

bad sign in my opinion when books beg for a 100 dollar deposit

It gives me the feeling they are giving their employees bonuses to get people to deposit just the way they come across. Most times though i get offered a 30 or 40% FP .

**bostonboss** · 04-21-14, 10:42 PM

even that is kinda lame though....what is the roll on the fp?

**bostonboss** · 04-21-14, 10:43 PM

the scratch cards are cool....though their loyalty program punishes bigger betters.

**bostonboss** · 04-21-14, 10:43 PM

bettors

**captrobey** · 04-21-14, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

the scratch cards are cool....though their loyalty program punishes bigger betters.

I think a ways back i got a scratch card for $100 . I do like the wheel spin when they do it a chance to win up to $250 FP. The 30-40% if i remember right was 8Xs Roll but i could be wrong on that .

**Redondo** · 04-21-14, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by bostonboss

the scratch cards are cool....though their loyalty program punishes bigger betters.

The 25% gamblers insurance can't be beat or any other reputable books give you 25% of your losses back as long as you deposited a dime once. You're right the loyalty program is a slap in the face with a $1 bettor earns the same as a dime bettor. The casino shouldn't even be listed is like a point per hour spenty in there LOL

**captrobey** · 04-22-14, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Redondo

The 25% gamblers insurance can't be beat or any other reputable books give you 25% of your losses back as long as you deposited a dime once. You're right the loyalty program is a slap in the face with a $1 bettor earns the same as a dime bettor. The casino shouldn't even be listed is like a point per hour spenty in there LOL

Yes i that is good too always nice to get something back although when i cashed out the $10000 i was ahead so i got no money back. The virtual casino was extremely rigged as all the ones online so i had that one blocked . But the Live casino is still there.Even that one is very suspicious at times but once in awhile i do get ahead.

**Redondo** · 04-22-14, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by captrobey

Yes i that is good too always nice to get something back although when i cashed out the $10000 i was ahead so i got no money back. The virtual casino was extremely rigged as all the ones online so i had that one blocked . But the Live casino is still there.Even that one is very suspicious at times but once in awhile i do get ahead.

I don't even qualify, I actually only deposit $100-300 typically but have a habit of doing it regualry of it's actually kind of a shady rule IMO, not that big of a deal to comply with in the future. Live help also doesn't give you clear answers, they have a button that says request net losses at anytime in redeem rewards section, I asked live help about this they say net losses are paid out 2 twice a year, i said well this link looks like you can request it atanytime, they said yeah but you don't have that option. I was wondering if they have a max net loss freeplay awarded, seems like if you were a high roller that would be the place to bet big.

**dmiles1021** · 04-22-14, 05:15 PM

I laugh when I see threads like this. im not a first time poster whatsoever. and the only books I use are youwager and betpop. always pay, always on time.

**Redondo** · 04-29-14, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by dmiles1021

I laugh when I see threads like this. im not a first time poster whatsoever. and the only books I use are youwager and betpop. always pay, always on time.

they are the exact same company, why mention both names?

**rcene** · 05-02-14, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by Redondo

The 25% gamblers insurance can't be beat or any other reputable books give you 25% of your losses back as long as you deposited a dime once. You're right the loyalty program is a slap in the face with a $1 bettor earns the same as a dime bettor. The casino shouldn't even be listed is like a point per hour spenty in there LOL

Isn't the insurance in the form of a free play? Which would be the same as 12% cash.

**dance1959** · 05-02-14, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

seems like book took a shot

He took shot. Why he didnt contact book as soon as he saw it began. Nooo,he wait to see if he can win and he stayed quiet.
Shame on him.

**Redondo** · 05-02-14, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by rcene

Isn't the insurance in the form of a free play? Which would be the same as 12% cash.

yes it's freeplay i'd rather take my chances at -110 bets or even run lines on MLB opposed to 50% cash, with you can trade the freeplay for half cash if you like, I'd only do that it was a small amount and wanted to try a 3 team parlay or something.