BetEd player makes $6,931 mistake

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  • Bill Dozer
    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
    • 07-12-05
    • 10894

    #211
    We have all the facts now and are still discussing with BetEd. The hope is that BetEd is willing to look at the player's side and do the right thing or at least share blame. The player has confirmed that his deposit cleared before the audit on his winnings. His story leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

    Well I deposited the $50 one time and that was on Dec. 25th. I had worked the account from then until Jan. 6th. That day is when I was getting clarification and filled out the e-check verification form and sent my info over to them. From that day forward is when shit hit the fan. They didn't say anything before then until the withdrawal request and information was sent into them. That's when they started their so-called investigation and found their so-called loop hole. The deposit as you might know from e-checks usually take 24-72 hours to post or clear. Thats when it was posted on my parents account was Dec. 29th.That amount of -$49.92 was the figured debited, due to their unique amount they debit to show validity and proof of the account itself. So, almost 2 weeks of action from me was put forward in that account to result in almost $7k in winnings. Hope this helps.
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    • themajormt
      SBR MVP
      • 07-30-08
      • 3964

      #212
      Dozer I have to ask, how old is this guy? He is very well spoken for a "kid"... I am on the players side but just curious as to why he did not use his own account?

      I think a 50% settlement on the account is more than faor. They BOTH need to share blame...
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      • fiveteamer
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-08
        • 10805

        #213
        There are rules, and there is common sense.

        This thread is worth at least 7k to beted. Bad move.
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        • Bill Dozer
          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
          • 07-12-05
          • 10894

          #214
          The rule, while applicable, serves the house but still exposes players. The saying “if you book it, pay it” applies here and we are hoping BetEd agrees that these bets were booked. There were lots of good suggestions in this thread for how BetEd could prevent this next time.
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          • themajormt
            SBR MVP
            • 07-30-08
            • 3964

            #215
            I agree 100% Dozer... they took it, they need to pay it... But at the same time the player needs to be penalized for not following clearly stated rules.
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            • robmpink
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-09-07
              • 13205

              #216
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              Last edited by robmpink; 02-08-09, 09:17 AM.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82590

                #217
                The damage is done. No SBR poster will ever play again with them. This is turning from a $7,000 loss to a $70,000 loss quickly.
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                • robertg
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-02-09
                  • 643

                  #218
                  i think they are covers #1 rated book, LMAO.
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                  • purecarnagge
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-05-07
                    • 4843

                    #219
                    beted cashed the check it cleared, they are obviously taking a shot at a player and hiding behind a rule to do so. This is unacceptable. There lack of a clear timely response to this matter server further proof.

                    There should be no 50% payment, there should be 100% payment and it should be sent Immediately.

                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    The damage is done. No SBR poster will ever play again with them. This is turning from a $7,000 loss to a $70,000 loss quickly.
                    Yes they are. Also, I hope when this is all said and done that SBR gives them a severe downgrade.
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                    • cbhoemrbry
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 01-08-09
                      • 20

                      #220
                      To all of my fellow backers, Here I am the one who's being punished for an honest default. Here's the deal, I've been gambling for years. I'm 27 years old and not a kid by any means. I'm being penalized and screwed in more ways than none.Yes ,call me an idiot for depositing from an account that didn't have my name on it. The real story is this, I've never tried to beat a book or get over on them in any fraudulent way or manner. I'm an honest bettor and don't take the bullshit little bonuses they offer or any of that sort, so they can't throw that in the mix as committing bonus frauds,etc. My point being is out of all the sportsbooks I've taken part in, I have a clean history and don't have any criminal or illegal activity on any account I've ever had with any sportsbook. Like I've stated, I'm fair, honest and legitimate. The rules are the rules I have to admit. I made the transaction not knowing I would make an unbelievable run, but definitely hoping and wishing for one. Well that one did happen indeed. Like any normal person, I want my money I earned fair and square. Everyone is wondering why I chose my parents account?????? Well for all the curious cats, here's the god honest truth. I was at my parent's on Christmas night, enjoying dinner and family time. I remember distinctly, the Celtics were playing at the Lakers. After I took a close look at the game. I totally fell in the love with the Lakers as a play. Well, by the way my girlfriend and I have a house just a few blocks from them. Even though my parent's house is my permanent address still, where all of my mail stills get delivered, it even states it on my driver's license. Anyhow, my wallet was not on me at the time, so I asked them if they would mind me depositing $50 into the beted account I had created just prior, once I realized my wallet wasn't on me. They said no problem, which the next day I just gave the $50 cash for swap of it, honest person right, and no I didn't read all through the terms and conditions even though i've been exposed to some of it on other books i've participated on. I wasn't so curious or concerned with the e-check deposit b/c one it was valid, two i have access to the account(or else I wouldn't have known the unique debit that beted does in order to validate the account or verify it), and three being the simple fact that we have the same last name, have the same addresses on all of our state issued id's, and fourth being i sent in verification forms of my license, my mom's, her verification signature,etc.Everything was completely valid, legal, and there after. The bottom line resulted in me taking a small investment into a large gain. They find a loophole that is true in nature but I submitted all the documents possible to verify it was valid, and myself having access to the account even though my name wasn't stated on the voided check.



                      Next topic, the e-check as many stated is a risky go for a sportsbook. Well it is what it is. I agree about the verification like credit cards. If I would've lost hundreds or thousands of dollars on there. They would've collected it and laughed in the end. Especially if it were honest deposits.like I made. Now on the flip side, if my parents would've turned around and said it was fraudulent then you really think that kind of money would be refunded. Hell people steal info all the time it seems. You think if some idiot stole my wallet. Took my credit card, created an account, bet and lost big money. You really think they would refund all of my money???? If that's the case, there's more can of worms there. It could be a legit deposit from my behalf and then I could lose tons of money, turn around and say my card was stolen. Come on, let's get real here. It's a never ending road that comes back to the people running the show and what the intend to do. 9 times out of 10, they're out to screw you some way or another. Anything they can get over on us players', they're going to do 100% They feel as if they have us by the balls with being overseas. To some extent they do unless you live in Nevada or have a local book. A sportsbook of this nature is suppose to be friendly, reputable, trustworthy, and time efficient as far as deposits/payouts. With issues as such it creates scams and dollars earned/won out the window. How can we ever trust these clowns? We can't until they prove us they're better people and take care of the players/customers. If issues as such arise, then investigate it properly, take into considerations of proven documentation, check player history for fraud, illegal acts, and then make a wise whole-hearted decision on facts at hand to determine if the player is legitimate and not a fraud and settle the issue with grace and dignity. I made the deposit. I own up to it and it was legitimate 100% with all the proof in the world. I had a run, a great run and want the money I earned on legitimately placed bets that were accepted wagers during and after the deposit had cleared on my end. I pray SBR, Justin, and Bill continue to fight the battle so I can collect my honest winnings. They have been in response to me and I appreciate their help and hope we continue to pound them until they make the right and sincere decision as to pay me. Followers on here , thanks for the support let's continue to spread the word so they lose their rating and lose business to the extent of none and closure until they pay the debt they owe me. Lastly, as we players have to submit all this documentation prior to payout requests,etc. We should have a filing for the books to sign off on to the extent they agree to pay us "x" amount of dollars if we reach that "x" amount and then in "X" amount days where its reasonable. That's my two cents worth. Thanks guys again
                      Last edited by cbhoemrbry; 02-03-09, 09:35 PM.
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                      • reno cool
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-02-08
                        • 3567

                        #221
                        Originally posted by Justin7
                        It's slowly grinding forward. I'm waiting for contact information re: their fraud specialist. I'm no longer certain they should get a pass here.

                        You crack me up man
                        bird bird da bird's da word
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                        • reno cool
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-02-08
                          • 3567

                          #222
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          The damage is done. No SBR poster will ever play again with them. This is turning from a $7,000 loss to a $70,000 loss quickly.
                          they'll just recover the funds by stiffing more players.
                          bird bird da bird's da word
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                          • Dark Horse
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 12-14-05
                            • 13764

                            #223
                            Is this the only Beted case been reconsidered, or are possible other cases revisited as well?

                            And please consider robmpink's remarks above very seriously. Should be easy to verify and would show that Beted is flatout lying about its policies.
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                            • trixtrix
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-13-06
                              • 1897

                              #224
                              this is absolutely f-king ridiculous, i seriously question sbr's objectivity in this matter if they're not behind the player 100% regarding this matter.

                              beted demonstrated they lied/stalled on several fronts, the player demonstrated NON.

                              pay the money, beted. i created an acct approx 2 months ago, was going to make a small (for me) 4 digit deposit there eventually for nba, lol'ing at ever thinking of doing that now at a joint that won't pay out legit winnings..
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                              • themajormt
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-30-08
                                • 3964

                                #225
                                Good luck man... I can honestly say that if they DONT pay you, they will not ever see a single dime from me, I dont care if they are offering a 1000% deposit bonus with a 2X roll over... They are scum !
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                                • Peep
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-23-08
                                  • 2295

                                  #226
                                  Apparently they stiffed some guy at Covers too.

                                  Probably best to put them into the Betonline catagory, "stay far far away".

                                  Put a bet on the cards to win the SUper Bowl at 30-1 during the Cards/Panthers game. It was still Pending as of Sunday 1/25. On Monday they voided it. Therefore, they freerolled the Eagles game, allowed me time to hedge some on Pittsburgh and then voided it. Complete BS from an allegedly respectable company that sponsors this forum.
                                  covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=9&sub=100360553
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                                  • big joe 1212
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-01-08
                                    • 19380

                                    #227
                                    I wonder if BetEd does these things in hope that the player knows nothing about these forums?

                                    I wonder how many times they screw players that we never hear about?

                                    I think damage has been done here!
                                    They will lose a good chunk of business and will go bankrupt or sell out soon!
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                                    • robmpink
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-09-07
                                      • 13205

                                      #228
                                      misremembered
                                      Last edited by robmpink; 02-15-09, 09:16 PM.
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                                      • purecarnagge
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-05-07
                                        • 4843

                                        #229
                                        SBR update?
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                                        • cbhoemrbry
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 01-08-09
                                          • 20

                                          #230
                                          Here's what I believe we players should do to create some noise for myself and the rest of you guys and future proceedings with any sportsbook overseas. We should all email BetEd individually with a short sweet message referring to my issue and how they're scams and will lose alot of business and eventually lose their business altogether. Quick note, when I was tried calling these clowns, they would let me talk to a customer service rep all day, but my issue had to be addressed by the accounts department right...and by no way shape or form were they going to let me talk to one of them one on one over the phone. They're so gutless they have you email these bastards and get responses by that form of media. Tell me that's a crock of poo. Scared, shameless, coniving, scam-artistic jerk offs in my eyes. Their email is accounts@beted.com. I'm not asking anyone to email them a novel....just something short and sweet to stir the soup and make them feel awful about their existence in the sports industry or gaming industry period. Thanks guys and look forward to the responses and feedbacks.......let's get them
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                                          • SSLP
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-29-08
                                            • 5232

                                            #231
                                            easy !

                                            they take credit cards right ?

                                            everyone deposit $5 or $10 like 3 times and then **********!!

                                            See guys chargebacks **** a book in volume not amounts so if a processor has 200 chargebacks chances are they will lose it and then go broke.


                                            HIT THEM WERE IT REALLY HURTS THEIR POCKETS BECAUSE THEY OBVIOUSLY DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR REPUTATION

                                            www.beted.com




                                            beware of this brand at all costs
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                                            • SSLP
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-29-08
                                              • 5232

                                              #232
                                              we are ALMOST THERE GUYS!
                                              we must keep this up

                                              look at what happens when people google beted now



                                              its on the very 2nd place now people can actually start to gain awareness on what a bunch of crooks they are
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                                              • Dark Horse
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-14-05
                                                • 13764

                                                #233
                                                Beted is the type of books that pays its way to the number one rated book at Covers. What does that tell you? They're not interested in earning their reputation, if they can fool enough people with the appearance of it.

                                                Also, while they were caught with the hand in the cookie jar, they alone know the size of this can of worms. How many other thefts are in their books? Will they suddenly find integrity? Or will it simply be a case of what is the bigger loss; a loss in reputation, or a financial loss? They know they can always fool more people.

                                                This may well be the cross roads for Beted. A last chance to steer clear from the total scam books by doing what is right. Not because of gains or losses, but because it is right.
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                                                • yisman
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                  • 75682

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by SSLP
                                                  we are ALMOST THERE GUYS!
                                                  we must keep this up

                                                  look at what happens when people google beted now



                                                  its on the very 2nd place now people can actually start to gain awareness on what a bunch of crooks they are
                                                  gotta link to it from more places.

                                                  I think the book should give the player a portion of the winnings and the rest should go to charity.
                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                  [/quote]

                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                  • Bill Dozer
                                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                    • 10894

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                                    SBR update?
                                                    We exchanged some emails with mgt. today and have a phone conference planned for tomorrow morning. I expect we will exchange more opinions and points. Mgt. will then have to make a final decision.
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82590

                                                      #236
                                                      This is like trying to untie the Gordian Knot. Thank God is not a life threatening situation.
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                                                      • purecarnagge
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-05-07
                                                        • 4843

                                                        #237
                                                        Yeah this is bad though. Beted really messed up. Beted is taking some heat for this on most forums.
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                                                        • Bill Dozer
                                                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 10894

                                                          #238
                                                          It's an open discussion so we'll see what happens and update asap.
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                                                          • purecarnagge
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-05-07
                                                            • 4843

                                                            #239
                                                            So your meeting resulted in no progress... this is a joke... Downgrade is in order and everyone on this board knows it
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                                                            • wild willy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-20-08
                                                              • 1298

                                                              #240
                                                              Beted will never see a dime from me.I hope these bastards go broke.
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82590

                                                                #241
                                                                I hope they go broke too. This is disgusting.
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                                                                • wild willy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-20-08
                                                                  • 1298

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Just wondering in your conversation what did beted think about all the great press they got. Did you happen to ask if it was worth $7,000 . I hope everyone of you bastards at beted rot in hell
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                                                                  • SoCalFisher
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-22-09
                                                                    • 769

                                                                    #243
                                                                    This is as phucked up as a football bat.
                                                                    I hope you get ALL your money.

                                                                    Robmpink.... seems to give a perfect example of them picking and choosing or hiding behind
                                                                    rules for their benefit only.

                                                                    I too think all thieves should rot in hell.

                                                                    beted=thieves
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                                                                    • Bill Dozer
                                                                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                      • 07-12-05
                                                                      • 10894

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Standby gentlemen. We will do what's in the best interest of the player and fairness. BetEd thinks there is some relevant information they can bring to the table, albeit late in the game.

                                                                      I agree with the consensus in this thread based on what we all know. Let's see how Ed closes this out.
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                                                                      • cbhoemrbry
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 01-08-09
                                                                        • 20

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Bill, quick question....what pertinent or relevant information would they think they have against me that might change their minds in their overall decision to make them right??? I know the facts...the facts have been posted here ...and they know future business from many players is at stake...and they're going to lose a ton of it in the long run for screwing me and the rest of the fellas....i whipped their ass and they loopholed an innocent person to make their reasoning look more beneficial to their standards...Keep pounding reality into them Bill and let me know what kind of "relevant information" they've pulled out of their asses....
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