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  • robzilla
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    • 10-25-07
    • 3556

    #1
    What happens to balances when the player can no longer handle thier own finances?
    Here is the story...
    My brother was recently hospitalized. He told me that he has a large balance at a sportsbook (I havent been able to verify this is true). He cant really handle his own finances anymore. There is no way he would be able to create a p2p account to transfer his money out.

    Will sportsbooks pay out a balance to my parents, or to me for my brother?
  • John Dough
    SBR MVP
    • 09-21-05
    • 1785

    #2
    Originally posted by robzilla
    Here is the story...
    My brother was recently hospitalized. He told me that he has a large balance at a sportsbook (I havent been able to verify this is true). He cant really handle his own finances anymore. There is no way he would be able to create a p2p account to transfer his money out.

    Will sportsbooks pay out a balance to my parents, or to me for my brother?
    1. Perhaps another method would make more sense in this case.
    2. Ask the book, no one here can give you a definite answer.

    Sorry about your brother, hope things work out on all fronts.
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    • teaz2win
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      • 02-12-13
      • 98

      #3
      Originally posted by robzilla
      Here is the story...
      My brother was recently hospitalized. He told me that he has a large balance at a sportsbook (I havent been able to verify this is true). He cant really handle his own finances anymore. There is no way he would be able to create a p2p account to transfer his money out.

      Will sportsbooks pay out a balance to my parents, or to me for my brother?
      I think Rob gave you the best answer. You should go to the book of course they probably wont speak to you regarding an account if you do not have the username and password for security reasons. Sorry to hear about your brother. Is he able to provide you with his log in and password?
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      • PAULYPOKER
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        • 12-06-08
        • 36581

        #4
        Originally posted by robzilla
        Here is the story...
        My brother was recently hospitalized. He told me that he has a large balance at a sportsbook (I havent been able to verify this is true). He cant really handle his own finances anymore. There is no way he would be able to create a p2p account to transfer his money out.

        Will sportsbooks pay out a balance to my parents, or to me for my brother?
        Don't believe your own brother?

        Maybe you shoulda left that part out, no?
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        • 5mike5
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-21-11
          • 51983

          #5
          also can he still not call the book himself?

          if he communicated this with u, i would guess its better suited if he did the asking
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          • John Dough
            SBR MVP
            • 09-21-05
            • 1785

            #6
            Originally posted by 5mike5
            also can he still not call the book himself?

            if he communicated this with u, i would guess its better suited if he did the asking
            Yeah, good points. Also, as someone said, if communicated this info to you, can he not give you the login info which would allow you to both verify and/or request a payout?
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            • BranchDavidian
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              • 08-29-10
              • 1014

              #7
              As a companion issue, I have been wondering what happens when a customer dies. How would my family get my balances? This looks like a bonus scenario for sportsbooks if balances from deceased players just sit in dormant accounts.
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              • PAULYPOKER
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                • 12-06-08
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                #8
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                • BranchDavidian
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                  • 08-29-10
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                  Thanks, Pauly. Your insightful additions are always appreciated.
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                  • relaaxx
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                    • 06-15-06
                    • 3281

                    #10
                    ask sbr to help you out.
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                    • PAULYPOKER
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                      • 12-06-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BranchDavidian
                      Thanks, Pauly. Your insightful additions are always appreciated.
                      Post #4 is all ya need to know........
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                      • teaz2win
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 02-12-13
                        • 98

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BranchDavidian
                        As a companion issue, I have been wondering what happens when a customer dies. How would my family get my balances? This looks like a bonus scenario for sportsbooks if balances from deceased players just sit in dormant accounts.
                        I would assume (of course we all know what happens when you assume) that if you can prove the user is deceased and have his log in and password they would work with you to get the funds out, but again that's just an assumption.
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                        • BranchDavidian
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                          • 08-29-10
                          • 1014

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                          Post #4 is all ya need to know........
                          I guess I am a little slow, cause I don't get it. Are you implying that the OP is looking for advice on how to pull a scam?
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                          • BranchDavidian
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                            • 08-29-10
                            • 1014

                            #14
                            Originally posted by teaz2win
                            I would assume (of course we all know what happens when you assume) that if you can prove the user is deceased and have his log in and password they would work with you to get the funds out, but again that's just an assumption.
                            This question has been in the back of my mind for a couple of years now. I have what I consider large balances in a few books, and I am getting up in years. I realize that I can give my log-in info to my daughter, but have no idea what a books reaction would be to someone other that the account holder calling up and saying send my deceased father's money to me. Books tell customers not to give out their log-in info, even to family members, since the customer is responsible if anyone else uses their account. So, in order to follow the instructions from a book, a customer's relatives should not be able to cash out even if they have the log-in info. My best guess is that the family would have to send the death certificate to the book and hope the book sends the money to the estate. I was hoping someone here could shed some light on this question as well as the OP's.
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                            • teaz2win
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 02-12-13
                              • 98

                              #15
                              Originally posted by BranchDavidian
                              This question has been in the back of my mind for a couple of years now. I have what I consider large balances in a few books, and I am getting up in years. I realize that I can give my log-in info to my daughter, but have no idea what a books reaction would be to someone other that the account holder calling up and saying send my deceased father's money to me. Books tell customers not to give out their log-in info, even to family members, since the customer is responsible if anyone else uses their account. So, in order to follow the instructions from a book, a customer's relatives should not be able to cash out even if they have the log-in info. My best guess is that the family would have to send the death certificate to the book and hope the book sends the money to the estate. I was hoping someone here could shed some light on this question as well as the OP's.

                              Branch very good questions. My wife has my account information and makes deposits and payout requests on my behalf. She has the log in and password so they dont ask any questions. One of the books i play at will only send p2p in the account holders name, but i would assume if a death certificate was sent and you had the log in and password they would accommodate you. I would hope they would be accommodating.
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                              • unluckysob
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-21-08
                                • 1527

                                #16
                                this guy is trying to find out how to steal someones sportbook money.
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                                • robzilla
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                                  • 10-25-07
                                  • 3556

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                  Don't believe your own brother?

                                  Maybe you shoulda left that part out, no?
                                  Well he is mentally unwell, so it's tough to know what is reality, and what is not.
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                                  • robzilla
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                                    • 10-25-07
                                    • 3556

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by unluckysob
                                    this guy is trying to find out how to steal someones sportbook money.
                                    Dude, I dont need to steal anyones $. Whatever money is in the account will just sit there. Id rather see my parents use it to pay for his needs. Im pretty sure my parents will be his power of attorney anyway in about a week.
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                                    • PAULYPOKER
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                                      • 12-06-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by robzilla
                                      Im pretty sure my parents will be his power of attorney anyway in about a week.
                                      Well then, they will have access to his account..........
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                                      • Slimpickens
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                                        • 10-28-12
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                                        #20
                                        Very interesting Ive wondered what would happen in a case like this as well. Probably the safest thing to do would be to request a check. Yes, I know it takes forever there. I see it hard to believe that sportsbook would want to deal with anyone but the account holder.
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                                        • stevedirtycash
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 04-27-13
                                          • 7

                                          #21
                                          I guess you need to speak with brother , get login details check account and if there is large amount in there then you can go to the sports book and find out what you need to do , no point contacting them if there is not a large sum eg $50 lol!

                                          Anyways best of luck Robzilla
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                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                            • 12-06-08
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by robzilla
                                            Im pretty sure my parents will be his power of attorney anyway in about a week.
                                            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                            Well then, they will have access to his account..........
                                            Tell them to talk to the attorney about the account......

                                            The attorney will know what to do........
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                                            • unluckysob
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                                              • 05-21-08
                                              • 1527

                                              #23
                                              How can a brain dead retard acquire a large balance at a sports book?
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                                              • PAULYPOKER
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                                                • 12-06-08
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by unluckysob
                                                How can a brain dead retard acquire a large balance at a sports book?
                                                The same way you were not aborted or forever silenced at birth........
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                                                • teaz2win
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 02-12-13
                                                  • 98

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
                                                  Well then, they will have access to his account..........

                                                  Power of attorney has nothing to do with offshore gambling sites.... dont think that will hold water.
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                                                  • PAULYPOKER
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-06-08
                                                    • 36581

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by teaz2win
                                                    Power of attorney has nothing to do with offshore gambling sites.... dont think that will hold water.
                                                    The attorney will know what to do........
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                                                    • djefferis
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                                                      • 08-16-08
                                                      • 1191

                                                      #27
                                                      In the event of a relative, book would likely:

                                                      A. Request a copy of both yours and the account holders id...to verify it matches what they have on file (and dont fool yourself...books can and do get access to your DL number)

                                                      B. Book will attempt to contact customer at the number provided

                                                      C. After reasonable confirmation, book MAY proceed to pay you.

                                                      In event of death, a death certificate and link to an obit online are used.

                                                      Also, you would be expected to know username/pass and details on account holder.

                                                      Just make sure its not the opposite way around and your brother doesnt owe a large sum (mabeye thats what caused incapatitating injuries).

                                                      Serioulsly,BOL with the situation.
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                                                      • touchback
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-08-12
                                                        • 1227

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by djefferis
                                                        In the event of a relative, book would likely:

                                                        A. Request a copy of both yours and the account holders id...to verify it matches what they have on file (and dont fool yourself...books can and do get access to your DL number)

                                                        B. Book will attempt to contact customer at the number provided

                                                        C. After reasonable confirmation, book MAY proceed to pay you.

                                                        In event of death, a death certificate and link to an obit online are used.

                                                        Also, you would be expected to know username/pass and details on account holder.

                                                        Just make sure its not the opposite way around and your brother doesnt owe a large sum (mabeye thats what caused incapatitating injuries).

                                                        Serioulsly,BOL with the situation.
                                                        Get all account information and impersonate your brother and ask for withdrawal... easy smeasy. So you want to sent the P2P to your brothers name (which is you) because u have been using P2P to much and are scared of being blacklisted... no problem... keep doing the max and throw a couple -ev wagers in every week for a couple hundred and things should be fine... stay out of the casino. Just make sure your brother is not so out of it that the large balance does not really exist if you know what I am saying...
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                                                        • robzilla
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                                                          • 10-25-07
                                                          • 3556

                                                          #29
                                                          The book said they just need to see power of attourney.
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                                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                                            • 12-06-08
                                                            • 36581

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by robzilla
                                                            The book said they just need to see power of attourney.
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