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  • jazy989
    SBR Hustler
    • 12-21-11
    • 89

    #1
    How can SBR have any say about other books after BI saga
    After they let people get ripped off. Atleast this deal with Betrevolution was with a few shady players!
  • Wilfred
    SBR MVP
    • 08-19-12
    • 1908

    #2
    They are trying to act like they are still a good guy in this case. And unfortunately it's working on some people. Can't see how people can trust an SBR investigation.
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    • jazy989
      SBR Hustler
      • 12-21-11
      • 89

      #3
      I had a friend I told about BI and he got taken for 1500. The guy still to this day thinks I should pay him the $. I said what happened between you and them is not my fault. So now Sbr is trying to do the right thing.. Ok. I am still going to play at Betrevolution anyways. I like their bonuses anyways. I only leave a grand in there no biggie
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      • minet123
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-17-07
        • 10280

        #4
        They learned at the feet of the master all that was missing was a statement on how they knew the owner and could personally vouch for his deep pockets
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        • touchback
          SBR MVP
          • 02-08-12
          • 1227

          #5
          Originally posted by minet123
          They learned at the feet of the master all that was missing was a statement on how they knew the owner and could personally vouch for his deep pockets
          There are deep pockets and then there are deeeeeeeep pockets. The BI sheet ended up needing deeeeeeeeeeeeep pockets so I could not blame any backer for telling Jon and BI to Fk off after they figured out what he had done and how deep in the red they were from his management. Sh1it we got a million people walking away from CC debt and upside down mortgages let alone a sheet in the red 1.5 or more by the end of November. The goose was not cooked it was burned to a charcoal bricket.
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          • lecubs28
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 10-17-11
            • 638

            #6
            touchback, betonline assumed an extra 1.5 million in debt when they purchased sportsbettingonline and that was totally unexpected.

            still shocking that nobody was able to step in here.

            as for the op...lol. sbr may not be perfect, but anybody can see that betrev is a joke.
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            • touchback
              SBR MVP
              • 02-08-12
              • 1227

              #7
              Originally posted by lecubs28
              touchback, betonline assumed an extra 1.5 million in debt when they purchased sportsbettingonline and that was totally unexpected.

              still shocking that nobody was able to step in here.

              as for the op...lol. sbr may not be perfect, but anybody can see that betrev is a joke.
              Well buddy... one thing I never went into was the timing. It was a meltdown in November when almost every house for one took a beating and for two knew that the liability would of been a huge amount of payouts with a top hevy sharp balance. That was the most shocking that they cracked basically in the middle of NFL... it is easier to take on a debt with cleaner sheets after hoops when most NFL guys have already pulled and structure guys into the next NFL season and look for a high conversion out of their appreciation. A couple places did look at the situation and they are well regarded but it was just a difficult situation with a ton of liability, and I mean high risk liability... they had a full NFL house wanting payouts and it would of been difficult to get them through to the next NFL season without a ton of payouts... include other uncooperative parties and or meddlesome oppurtunists and the whole deal was bad...
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              • dark star
                SBR MVP
                • 01-04-09
                • 3900

                #8
                I agree completely.Who is SBR to even comment.Just STFU
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                • combination lock
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 01-08-13
                  • 193

                  #9
                  Guys, to be fair here sbr did not know about bi's troubles until the day before the book closed shop so let's not get carried away here people.
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                  • the_orangekat
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-08-07
                    • 1267

                    #10
                    And yet all you whiny bitches still show up here and post, go elsewhere.
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                    • bobbywaves
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-06-08
                      • 13280

                      #11
                      Problem I have is SBR never published a full in depth report in the SBR SPORTSBOOK NEWS AND BUSINESS WIRE section on what really happened at BI, like they are reporting with BetRevolution. When the BI theft was on a much larger scale of approx 1.5 million, not 26K. SBR has no problem giving their opinion on a non sponsor book, but when it involves a sponsor apparently mums the word.
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                      • touchback
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-08-12
                        • 1227

                        #12
                        Well.... there was a report with Natalie (what a cutie) that mentioned BetIslands... it was like the 3rd piece of news and lasted about 4 or 5 seconds in the whole broadcast. Guess they were trying to keep a low profile but still make mention of it... tough spot to be in.
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                        • bubba
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-29-05
                          • 2432

                          #13
                          Originally posted by touchback
                          Well.... there was a report with Natalie (what a cutie) that mentioned BetIslands... it was like the 3rd piece of news and lasted about 4 or 5 seconds in the whole broadcast. Guess they were trying to keep a low profile but still make mention of it... tough spot to be in.
                          not that tough. I mean if SBR was criminal in this, then yeah its a really bad spot. if not sbr should admit what they knew, when they knew it, what went wrong and hit on this dead on. better late then never. The "reporting" on this by sbr has been an abomination IMO
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                          • touchback
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-08-12
                            • 1227

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bubba
                            not that tough. I mean if SBR was criminal in this, then yeah its a really bad spot. if not sbr should admit what they knew, when they knew it, what went wrong and hit on this dead on. better late then never. The "reporting" on this by sbr has been an abomination IMO
                            Hey Bubba... how you doing buddy. I would say that I am a kinda just rip the band aid off guy... instead if mess around with it because I think it hurts. Just get it over with and move on is my MO, hate having stuff nag at me or have to look over my shoulder... but thats me. I cannot speak for others. Nice to hear from you though... hear DSI was doing a cool little repeat 100% deal if you bust out keep getting it. Might be right up your ally and I like DSI brother... 1 of a few I would personally vouch for right now and aint that many I would at this time if you know what I mean. I think wwe about to see some interesting stuff come down in the next 60 to 90 days...
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                            • bubba
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-29-05
                              • 2432

                              #15
                              Originally posted by touchback
                              Hey Bubba... how you doing buddy. I would say that I am a kinda just rip the band aid off guy... instead if mess around with it because I think it hurts. Just get it over with and move on is my MO, hate having stuff nag at me or have to look over my shoulder... but thats me. I cannot speak for others. Nice to hear from you though... hear DSI was doing a cool little repeat 100% deal if you bust out keep getting it. Might be right up your ally and I like DSI brother... 1 of a few I would personally vouch for right now and aint that many I would at this time if you know what I mean. I think wwe about to see some interesting stuff come down in the next 60 to 90 days...
                              hi-

                              what do you mean by interesting stuff? (that is a tease!!)

                              tell me: good interesting or bad interesting?
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                              • brettels
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-04-10
                                • 3376

                                #16
                                1.5 million is nothing in this industry! The whole thing is pathetic
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                                • touchback
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-08-12
                                  • 1227

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bubba
                                  hi-

                                  what do you mean by interesting stuff? (that is a tease!!)

                                  tell me: good interesting or bad interesting?
                                  Who... me, a tease... never. Oh man, now I cannot go advanced... that sucks. Is it just me or everyone else. I feel like the red headed bastard step child ;( oh well.
                                  Answer, BAD... so far BI, 7R, Dimeline, BR, WSEX... we got a few more to go, heads up buddy.
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                                  • combination lock
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 01-08-13
                                    • 193

                                    #18
                                    Touchback check in. We haven't heard from you today pal... want to make sure your not on that indicted list.
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                                    • Dunhill
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 01-24-10
                                      • 469

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jazy989
                                      After they let people get ripped off. Atleast this deal with Betrevolution was with a few shady players!
                                      Nice logic you got. If one book steals from players, ALL books should be allowed to steal from their players.

                                      But at least it's nice to see that there are no shills for BetRevolution on this forum... the fact that every thread about them is derailed by some users who start talking about BI is just purely coincidental.
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                                      • erickvivar
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 05-21-10
                                        • 293

                                        #20
                                        Those "shills" are the players who actually like BetRevolution and have nothing against them. BI is just a topic will never die, it was just too big.
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                                        • rcene
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-28-12
                                          • 3036

                                          #21
                                          Is Legends still paying to be here?
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                                          • touchback
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-08-12
                                            • 1227

                                            #22
                                            Combo.... Checking in.... non on the list that I know of. Will have to read it though, downloaded a PDF and will take a look, 95 pages I will have to get around to it and I do not have anything in the US anymore so what do I care. I told you guys some sh1t was coming down...
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                                            • sharpcircle
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 02-05-11
                                              • 308

                                              #23
                                              touchback,

                                              easy to be right eventually when you post so vaguely. how about something of substance?
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                                              • touchback
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-08-12
                                                • 1227

                                                #24
                                                Hear you Sharp.... it is a little hard for me to be too specific considering my position... but the statement "heads up" I thought was fairly specific of something imminent... do you not think....
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                                                • nosniboR11
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-02-08
                                                  • 10042

                                                  #25
                                                  sbr is guilty like bi is
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                                                  • touchback
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-08-12
                                                    • 1227

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sharpcircle
                                                    touchback,

                                                    easy to be right eventually when you post so vaguely. how about something of substance?
                                                    I am interested in SBG and Victor...
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                                                    • touchback
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-08-12
                                                      • 1227

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by combination lock
                                                      Touchback check in. We haven't heard from you today pal... want to make sure your not on that indicted list.
                                                      Also... it is known on the street at higher levels that a hard look has been taken to Covers.... basically for their complete lack of mods keeping local action off the boards and unrestricted talk of processing. When I say hard look, I mean a real hard look... also gl ob al wa ge ri ng.ws might make some changes. Hard to say which way it will go with them. I like the guy though, just seems he always gets put under someones screw I here from a trusted source...
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                                                      • touchback
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-08-12
                                                        • 1227

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by nosniboR11
                                                        sbr is guilty like bi is
                                                        Was going to ignore this.... but I personally just do not agree. Jon is solely responsible for how BI was managed and for how he deceived just about everybody invlovled up to the end. At the very end though I am positive that was not Jon people were communicating with just another person using his login and email address. Name might start with an R would be my guess just trying to get personal payroll, but still a d1ck move kmowing BI was unable to pay and still take a deposit. Sbr heald their tounge at the very end most likely hoping a bailout would come and saying anything would of made the situation impossible. Sure they could of said more or they could of deleted every thread and post off the forum about BI which they did not. So a little credit is do and the situation was just bad. Really, I cannot really see what they could of really done, the goose was cooked and they did not want to screw a possible bailout out. Maybe a more official statement would be nice but it would not solve anything and would just be more ammo to use to fire at them... so, really... what do they do.
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                                                        • combination lock
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 01-08-13
                                                          • 193

                                                          #29
                                                          Touchy, you had said previously that it was known last spring that the book was in trouble and by fall "everyone in Costa Rica" knew.... so tell me why sbr failed to raise any red flags that whole time?
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                                                          • touchback
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-08-12
                                                            • 1227

                                                            #30
                                                            I believe I have stated this in one form or another.... for a book to successfully broker a bailout deal it would have to be not in the middle of it having a customer run on payouts. If that happened zero chance for bailout... so mum was the word by some that knew out of biz respect and or hopes that a bailout came through...
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                                                            • flyingillini
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-06-06
                                                              • 41219

                                                              #31
                                                              Everyone is always guilty do your own homework
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