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  • tomcowley
    SBR MVP
    • 10-01-07
    • 1129

    #36
    Christ on a crutch. If the SAT still has reading comprehension, and you took it, did you get a single one of those questions right? If that's the point you were trying to make, then go back and read my post, then look up the definition of non sequitur, (hint: copy-paste it so you don't misspell it in google), and see if you can figure out the relationship.
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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #37
      Shams also believes that Ganchrow and Tacomax are the same person, despite the fact that 200 people met both of them at the SBR bash.
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      • ShamsWoof10
        SBR MVP
        • 11-15-06
        • 4827

        #38
        Originally posted by tomcowley
        Christ on a crutch. If the SAT still has reading comprehension, and you took it, did you get a single one of those questions right? If that's the point you were trying to make, then go back and read my post, then look up the definition of non sequitur, (hint: copy-paste it so you don't misspell it in google), and see if you can figure out the relationship.
        You refer to them as "cris[bookmaker,dsi}" but get technical when I call them all the same book... What the f*ck did you think I meant dude..?

        Now shove that SAT test up your as*!

        Originally posted by durito
        Shams also believes that Ganchrow and Tacomax are the same person, despite the fact that 200 people met both of them at the SBR bash.
        hmmm let me see here... is this the idiot that said Bookmaker is the only US book left that will take any real bet... oh no "actually take wagers"...

        Originally posted by durito
        Bookmaker is pretty much the only place (if you can't play at pinny) left that will actually take wagers.
        I guess BetJam/Greek/WStreet is out... They must be trash I guess...

        F*CKIN' TOOLBOX!!!!
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        • durito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-03-06
          • 13173

          #39
          Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
          You refer to them as "cris[bookmaker,dsi}" but get technical when I call them all the same book... What the f*ck did you think I meant dude..?

          Now shove that SAT test up your as*!



          hmmm let me see here... is this the idiot that said Bookmaker is the only US book left that will take any real bet...

          I'm sure any of them will take your action.
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          • ShamsWoof10
            SBR MVP
            • 11-15-06
            • 4827

            #40
            Originally posted by durito
            I'm sure any of them will take your action.
            Oh ok... now you are talking sh*t like you are special..

            Give me a break they will take yours too unless they catch on or get tired of you arbing them so don't act like you are doing something special dude...

            Go stroke your d*ck somewhere else...

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            • tomcowley
              SBR MVP
              • 10-01-07
              • 1129

              #41
              Originally posted by me
              When it comes to taking a real bet, not limiting/delaying winners (except for betpoints), paying out large amounts of money, and not screwing you over, bookmaker is the only US-facing book that passes. In the face of that, everything they do wrong- epic piss-poor CS, out of date info, and rape-level fees- just doesn't matter. Every pro has to play there. It's possible that no US-facing book deserves A+, but bookmaker has to be at the top of any US-facing list just on those factors.
              Yeah. I specifically talked about the four things that make bookmaker good, and you go off about DSI collars. Yeah, I'm the one who can't read. I can see your family gatherings now- two people are talking about how smart your cousin is, and you jump in and say "But I'm a complete retard!!!"...... and think that makes your cousin dumb too.
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              • durito
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-03-06
                • 13173

                #42
                Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

                I guess BetJam/Greek/WStreet is out... They must be trash I guess...

                F*CKIN' TOOLBOX!!!!
                Wagerstreet? lol. try betting $100 a game there for a week and see what your limits are.

                BetJM, great book, does not take professional action.

                Greek is a great book, but they are putting limits in certain places on people. It's a must have out though from the US. You apparently missed this part of my post: "pretty much"
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                • ShamsWoof10
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-15-06
                  • 4827

                  #43
                  Originally posted by durito
                  Wagerstreet? lol. try betting $100 a game there for a week and see what your limits are.

                  BetJM, great book, does not take professional action.

                  Greek is a great book, but they are putting limits in certain places on people. It's a must have out though from the US. You apparently missed this part of my post: "pretty much"
                  I know what the limits are at WagerStreet and it's more then $100... BetJam. is not for so called professinal action but I guess you don't have to worry about that do you...?

                  "pretty much" what..? Can you bet from the U.S. at TheGreek or not..?

                  As far as I know you still can so "pretty much" kiss my as*!

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                  • ShamsWoof10
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-15-06
                    • 4827

                    #44
                    Originally posted by tomcowley
                    Yeah. I specifically talked about the four things that make bookmaker good, and you go off about DSI collars. Yeah, I'm the one who can't read.
                    You can't read... Yeah you blew Bookmaker and I came back and said THEY as in both DSI and BookMaker COLLAR and THEY DO!!! not to mention COLD CALL A LOT EVERY DAMN DAY..

                    BookMaker is ok but not all that great... I get more calls from them then all other telemarketers combined in one day...

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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                      I know what the limits are at WagerStreet and it's more then $100... l
                      Can you read?

                      Try winning a few bets at wagerstreet for a change and see what your limits are.

                      Better yet, go bet these there right now:

                      63 Florida +210
                      60 Dallas +170
                      56 Atlanta +170


                      then, tomorrow, try to bet more than $25 a game.
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                      • ShamsWoof10
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-15-06
                        • 4827

                        #46
                        Originally posted by durito
                        Can you read?

                        Try winning a few bets at wagerstreet for a change and see what your limits are.

                        Better yet, go bet these there right now:

                        63 Florida +210
                        60 Dallas +170
                        56 Atlanta +170


                        then, tomorrow, try to bet more than $25 a game.
                        SIDES TOTALS
                        SPORT/EVENT GAME HALF QUART. GAME HALF QUART.
                        2008 - 2009 NCAAF Championship 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008 Davis Cup - Odds to win 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008 Sprint Cup All Star Race - Odds to win 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008 Sprint Cup Championship - Odds to win 200 200 200 200 200 200
                        2008-09 NBA Championship - Odds to win 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-09 NBA Futures - Eastern Conference 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-09 NBA Futures - Western Conference 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-09 NBA MVP Award - Odds to win 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-09 NFL Futures - AFC Conference 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-09 NFL Futures - NFC Conference 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-2009 NCAA Mens Championship 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2008-9 NFL - Team to win 2009 SuperBowl 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 BCS National Championship 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 British Open - Odds to win 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 NHL Futures - Eastern Conference 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 NHL Futures - Stanley Cup 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 NHL Futures - Western Conference 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 US Masters - Odds to win 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2009 US PGA Money List - Odds to win without Tiger 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        2012 US Election - Democrat Nominee 300 300 300 N/A N/A N/A
                        2012 US Election - Next President 300 300 300 N/A N/A N/A
                        2012 US Election - Odds to win 300 300 300 N/A N/A N/A
                        2012 US Election - Republican Nominee 300 300 300 N/A N/A N/A
                        Boxing 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        Golf Matchups 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        Mens Tennis Matchups 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        Nascar Matchups 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NBA Propositions 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NBA Sides and Totals 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NCAA Basketball 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NCAA Football 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NCAA Football Propositions 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NFL Propositions 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NFL Sides and Totals 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        NHL Sides and Totals 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        Odds to win the 2008 Sprint Cup Rookie of the Year 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        Soccer 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        UFC 92 Matchups 300 300 300 300 300 300
                        Womens Tennis Matchups 300 300 300 300 300 300

                        Yeah Pin head I can read but I guess you can't...

                        Now how about not ignoring the issue...

                        Let me see if I can help you since nothing worth while comes out of that big mouth...

                        Originally posted by durito
                        I arb and when a book realizes this they cut my limits. This has happened to me at WagerStreet and other books but I play it off to you guys like I am the greatest capper of all time. If you arb like me then you should expect to get your limits cut at MOST books. Also I would like to point out ShamsWoof10 is a great poster and I need to keep my big mouth shut.
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                        • durito
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-03-06
                          • 13173

                          #47
                          Are you really dumb enough to believe that anyone would arb those odds?
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                          • durito
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-03-06
                            • 13173

                            #48
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                            • ShamsWoof10
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-15-06
                              • 4827

                              #49
                              Originally posted by durito
                              Are you really dumb enough to believe that anyone would arb those odds?
                              OK AS*HOLE... How much do you want to bet I can get a bet in on this weekend's NFL game (I hate hockey) for more then $100..?

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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #50
                                Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                OK AS*HOLE... How much do you want to bet I can get a bet in on this weekend's NFL game (I hate hockey) for more then $100..?

                                Nothing.

                                I'm sure they'll take any bet from you.
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                                • ShamsWoof10
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-15-06
                                  • 4827

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by durito
                                  Nothing.
                                  THEN SHUT THE F*CK UP because although you don't believe it when we talk about limits on this board we are not talking about yours being the standard...

                                  Like I said before WagerStreet has limits as is posted but they, like any book, can cut your limits..

                                  Dude you are so full of sh*t..

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                                  • durito
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 07-03-06
                                    • 13173

                                    #52
                                    The point is that Wagerstreet cuts almost everyone's limits and bookmaker cut's no one's.

                                    Do you understand the difference?
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                                    • Spanks
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 2040

                                      #53
                                      Durito,you are a fool...
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                                      • TeamPlayer
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 05-19-08
                                        • 634

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by tomcowley
                                        DSI has been collaring, not bookmaker. Bookmaker has sent me wires in under a week and book transfers the same day. Sorry somebody's waiting 7 days for **/** (which is stupid, I'll agree), but pros don't get **/** from there or give a crap about a 1-day vs 7-day $2500ish payout in general. I'd be pretty surprised if any pro who posts here doesn't have a cris-affiliated account.

                                        Tomcowley,
                                        You are Spot On correct.

                                        There are a lot of morons on all message boards including this one. It's not worth arguing with them.

                                        I hypothesize that people who go balistic, such as the author of this thread, are people who've recently lost money and so they log in to SBR acting as if somebody shot their mother. It's pretty lame
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                                        • durito
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-03-06
                                          • 13173

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Spanks
                                          Durito,you are a fool...
                                          Thanks Shams.
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                                          • topcat
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-15-08
                                            • 1096

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by thespeculator
                                            i don't blame you for being angry , 7-10 days seems crazy for a **, but they do clearly state that in there withdrawal section, for that reason i have always stayed a way from them, as far as the ratings go i have no idea how they work, why a book like abc islands isn't an A i don't know. But SBR ratings are as close to unbiased as it gets, go to covers and look at there ratings , they have beted #1, logans#2 betus, sportingbet , all in the top ten
                                            sbr is the most accurate out of all the forums. that rank sportsbooks.i still dont understand why bet phoniex is so high,but saying that covers is a joke,and the people who run them are to.the only thing i like about covers is that they put up the most betted game.stick with the greeek,bet jamacia ,and 5dimes.
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                                            • topcat
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-15-08
                                              • 1096

                                              #57
                                              listen to the older posters here,they wont stir you wrong.ask people like john,jj,darkhorse,mudcat,and dozier.i find these guys to be honest.
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                                              • Thremp
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-23-07
                                                • 2067

                                                #58
                                                Wow. Just wow. Sham is an A+ list moran celebrity. TomCowley is remarkably correct.

                                                Durito,

                                                I just got my first $25 acct at wagerstreet. I was so used to just being sliced to $50. Well, on occasion I'd busto my first deposit, end up with game day limits of 2k+ on some events, win and immediately get limited to $50. Which didn't make any sense, since my MO was the same from Day 1.
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                                                • St.Aquinas
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 07-01-08
                                                  • 264

                                                  #59
                                                  I think everyone is missing the point, Bookmaker aka Cris has earned a solid reputation for early lines and payouts. They DO pay which is important. SBR's grading system may suck, but Cris has earned its place on the top with The Greek and Pinny.

                                                  I know a small book that I and many SBR'ers play at that payout in 3-4 days; rated a D+. However, I would never tell people to play there because its a new book, and certainly I would not tell people to play Sportsbook.com. Not to belittle BS's point, but I think a large book like Bookmaker would pay faster if it's processor was able. Hang in there BS and you will get paid.

                                                  People have to recognize the industry has changed, but id much rather keep it offshore and wait an extra week then deal with a no value local.
                                                  I must complain the cards are ill shuffled till I have a good hand. ~Jonathan Swift
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                                                  • bigboydan
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 55420

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by St.Aquinas
                                                    I think everyone is missing the point, Bookmaker aka Cris has earned a solid reputation for early lines and payouts. They DO pay which is important. SBR's grading system may suck, but Cris has earned its place on the top with The Greek and Pinny.
                                                    Lets also forget to mention that Cris has been around since 1985. So they have stood the test of time.
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                                                    • purecarnagge
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-05-07
                                                      • 4843

                                                      #61
                                                      Cris is clearly being targeted by the US government in its ongoing investigation.

                                                      On the other hand I still think there ratings should be devalued a bit. Nothing huge, but they are currently having payout problems are they not? B+ them or something... But they should not remain as a A
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                                                      • tomcarter
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 11-10-08
                                                        • 223

                                                        #62
                                                        I was just paid through moneygram from dsi two weeks ago.no problem.Had a bank draft deposit 3 month ago at dsi and bookmaker,went through fine and withdrew fed ex from both places in the last 3 months with no problems.

                                                        If a company like cris is having serious problems with payouts this entire industry would be in trouble.

                                                        I just don't see it happening, from what I understand there was a problem with a processor that only affected a few people.I haven't seen many complaints yet about cris affiliated books and I haven't experienced any problems in the last month..
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                                                        • icelancer
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 10-25-07
                                                          • 41

                                                          #63
                                                          I've had no problems at DSI. Been cut at Wagerstreet obviously; who hasn't?
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                                                          • durito
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 07-03-06
                                                            • 13173

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Thremp
                                                            Wow. Just wow. Sham is an A+ list moran celebrity. TomCowley is remarkably correct.

                                                            Durito,

                                                            I just got my first $25 acct at wagerstreet. I was so used to just being sliced to $50. Well, on occasion I'd busto my first deposit, end up with game day limits of 2k+ on some events, win and immediately get limited to $50. Which didn't make any sense, since my MO was the same from Day 1.
                                                            They won't process my withdrawal because i have $400 in rollover left. So i started betting $25 a pop, a day later my limits are now $10.
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                                                            • Netprofit
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-25-08
                                                              • 3538

                                                              #65
                                                              What is the purpose of all these meaningless bashing?

                                                              I was following this thread with the intention of knowing comments / feedback about Bookmaker.com. Both positive and negative feedback are valuable for everyone to assess but please keep them unbiased, factual and accurate.

                                                              The credibility of books is a very important issue and SBR provides this platform for us to help each other. Please do it with some sense.
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                                                              • St.Aquinas
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 07-01-08
                                                                • 264

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Netprofit
                                                                What is the purpose of all these meaningless bashing?

                                                                I was following this thread with the intention of knowing comments / feedback about Bookmaker.com. Both positive and negative feedback are valuable for everyone to assess but please keep them unbiased, factual and accurate.

                                                                The credibility of books is a very important issue and SBR provides this platform for us to help each other. Please do it with some sense.
                                                                Bookmaker and CRIS are solid. You "may" have to wait 7-10 days to get paid depending on the method, but no worries because you WILL get paid and most likely in less time.
                                                                I must complain the cards are ill shuffled till I have a good hand. ~Jonathan Swift
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                                                                • Thremp
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 07-23-07
                                                                  • 2067

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by durito
                                                                  They won't process my withdrawal because i have $400 in rollover left. So i started betting $25 a pop, a day later my limits are now $10.
                                                                  <3

                                                                  TIA (Helpful Hint: This Is Africa)


                                                                  But you can't seriously expect to rob someone? If I didn't know any better, I'd assume you held someone up at gunpoint to give up the numbers they do.
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                                                                  • WileOut
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-04-07
                                                                    • 3844

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by purecarnagge
                                                                    Cris is clearly being targeted by the US government in its ongoing investigation.

                                                                    On the other hand I still think there ratings should be devalued a bit. Nothing huge, but they are currently having payout problems are they not? B+ them or something... But they should not remain as a A
                                                                    I don't think they are being targeted by the US government. They are not having payout problems at all. 1 processor of theirs had a rougue employee that was writing bad checks from what I understand. This could happen to any sportsbook because I think they all outsource their check processing.

                                                                    I don't think this supposed processing problem affected a large percentage of people, I got 1 payout from them and know somebody else who also received a good check from them in the timeframe that they were supposedly having problems.

                                                                    Why downgrade them for something that could happen to any sportsbook serving the US now? The bottom line is that they had a problem, solved it, and are now doing fine.
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                                                                    • durito
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-03-06
                                                                      • 13173

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Thremp
                                                                      <3

                                                                      TIA (Helpful Hint: This Is Africa)


                                                                      But you can't seriously expect to rob someone? If I didn't know any better, I'd assume you held someone up at gunpoint to give up the numbers they do.
                                                                      if these morons think i have something better to do than to put in 37 $10 parlays per day -- they'd be wrong.
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                                                                      • boulay50
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 11-06-08
                                                                        • 57

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Bookmaker

                                                                        I switched from bodog to bookmaker because of the review SBR gave it. Everything has run smoothly until now. I have racked up a whole lot of betpoints and tried to use them for the free payout option only to be told that the free payouts can only be used with checks so again i had to be charged $75. I, too, am now waiting 7-10 days on a ** which i thought would be the quickest of all. very discouraging...
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