With the option of progressive parlays, why do regular parlays?

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  • brainfreeze0
    SBR MVP
    • 03-19-12
    • 2146

    #1
    With the option of progressive parlays, why do regular parlays?
    My book does progressive or "almost" parlays which I just learned what they actually were today. Is there a downside to progressive parlays and if there isn't, why would a player still use regular parlays with this option available?
  • Hankwins
    SBR MVP
    • 09-17-10
    • 2232

    #2
    you give up alot of odds for the ability to miss a play or two, some guys don't want 4/1, they want 12/1
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    • brainfreeze0
      SBR MVP
      • 03-19-12
      • 2146

      #3
      Originally posted by Hankwins
      you give up alot of odds for the ability to miss a play or two, some guys don't want 4/1, they want 12/1
      So you give up the odds before one of the picks loses? I didnt know that. Thanks for clarifying
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      • king
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-15-09
        • 506

        #4
        Thanks for the thread brainfreeze0. I didn't know something like this exist and I usually do 10 team parlays, so this is good for me. Now I just have to find a book that fits my needs that has progressive parlays. I did the research and this fits right with my needs. Now I just need to find a US book.
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #5
          For any possible "almost parlay", you need to calculate the theoretical book edge per leg, assuming you hit 50%. In many cases, these almost parlays have a house edge much lower than regular parlays.

          For example: If a 4-team almost pays 5:1 for 4-0, and 1:1 for 3-1, what is the edge?
          4-0 pays 5
          3-1 pays 1, 4 different ways.

          5 winners paying a total of 9
          11 losers paying -11

          Total house edge for 4-teamer: (9-11)/16, or 12.5%.

          Edge per leg: .125/4, or about 3.2%. That is better most book's straight -110 pricing. The catch is that ties lose for most of these parlays.
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          • Inkwell77
            SBR MVP
            • 02-03-11
            • 3227

            #6
            Originally posted by Justin7
            For any possible "almost parlay", you need to calculate the theoretical book edge per leg, assuming you hit 50%. In many cases, these almost parlays have a house edge much lower than regular parlays.

            For example: If a 4-team almost pays 5:1 for 4-0, and 1:1 for 3-1, what is the edge?
            4-0 pays 5
            3-1 pays 1, 4 different ways.

            5 winners paying a total of 9
            11 losers paying -11

            Total house edge for 4-teamer: (9-11)/16, or 12.5%.

            Edge per leg: .125/4, or about 3.2%. That is better most book's straight -110 pricing. The catch is that ties lose for most of these parlays.
            interesting
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            • looneytunes
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-16-10
              • 216

              #7
              Originally posted by king
              Thanks for the thread brainfreeze0. I didn't know something like this exist and I usually do 10 team parlays, so this is good for me. Now I just have to find a book that fits my needs that has progressive parlays. I did the research and this fits right with my needs. Now I just need to find a US book.
              play them from time to time at Heritage, their 10 team almost w/10 wins pays 250:1, 9 wins w/loss or tie pays 25:1, 8 wins w/2losses or ties pays 3:1.
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              • ThaWoj
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-09-10
                • 6760

                #8
                Guys dont forget most progressive and multi-chance (another type of bet similar to progressive) parlays & teasers TIES LOSE
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                • ThaWoj
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-09-10
                  • 6760

                  #9
                  o btw theres also progressive and multichance pleasers (ties can win on some of those)
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                  • ThaWoj
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 03-09-10
                    • 6760

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Justin7
                    For any possible "almost parlay", you need to calculate the theoretical book edge per leg, assuming you hit 50%. In many cases, these almost parlays have a house edge much lower than regular parlays.

                    For example: If a 4-team almost pays 5:1 for 4-0, and 1:1 for 3-1, what is the edge?
                    4-0 pays 5
                    3-1 pays 1, 4 different ways.

                    5 winners paying a total of 9
                    11 losers paying -11

                    Total house edge for 4-teamer: (9-11)/16, or 12.5%.

                    Edge per leg: .125/4, or about 3.2%. That is better most book's straight -110 pricing. The catch is that ties lose for most of these parlays.
                    5dimes has 3 payout choices for progressive parlays. i would choose "b" for a 4 teamer that pays -150 for 3/4 and +700 for 4/4.

                    Am i correct in choosing that over "a" which is +100 and +550 (and "c" which is -600 2/4, -200 3/4, +100 4/4)?
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