Everton vs. Manchester United [7:45est ESPN]

JOHON8 · 02-19-10, 06:04 PM

Risky game, but I like the draw.

theplagy · 02-19-10, 06:26 PM

everton +.75

Parkinho · 02-19-10, 06:38 PM

"Risky game" is right and draw isn't a bad shout but I slightly favour Utd. Both sides have injuries but Utd have been coping reasonably well with injury problems this season due to the overall quality of their squad. The loss of Ferdinand to suspension is a blow to Utd's defence but it looks like Vidic could return which could help things slightly. Although Evans wasn't great against Milan his general form is pretty good and Brown is a fairly able deputy if called upon.

I feel that the really key injuries are those that Everton have suffered in midfield - the loss of Cahill and Fellaini create far bigger problems for Everton that the losses of Nani and Giggs do for Utd. It is debatable that Giggs would have figured anyway and Nani has been playing on the right wing so Antonio Valencia slots in as a replacement of at least equal quality (he is certainly more consistent).

Up front Rooney and Saha are both in form and will be trying their hardest against their old clubs but based on the available midfielders Rooney should be seeing the better service coming his way.

Everton will enjoy a lift from playing at home and Utd will suffer as they do wherever they go from the home team playing out of their skins just because they are playing against Utd. It is tricky to accurately quantify these factors, more so with the new Everton injuries.

To summarise, the loss of Ferdinand is big for Utd and if Everton really raise their game they can capitalise but the overall injury picture should affect Utd far less than it affects Everton. Both sides played their European games on Tuesday so there should be no "hangover" effect. Everton's home form and Utd's away form are comparable over the last 5 or so games. A draw is a fair shout but I have a leaning towards Man Utds defensive absences causing them less of an issue than Everton have due to their midfield absences.

Gargamel · 02-19-10, 06:51 PM

I've looked on this one a lot and I find no good plays at all on Bet365.

If you find good odds on Everton to score that might be a play I can see being good value.

RedDevil11 · 02-19-10, 07:06 PM

Nervy game for us as we tend to struggle after Europe, but I like United to win a tight one 1-0. I know it's tough playing at Goodison but we are one of the few teams that fares well there and I can't even remember the last time we've lost to the Toffees. I know the Toffees are in good form, but if there ever was a time to play them it would be now without Fellaini and now Cahill in the middle that's a huge blow for them. Without those two we won't have to worry so much about their set plays which they used well to defeat Chelsea last week. Fletcher will have Pienaar in his backpocket. It will be tough dropping points here as we've got to expect Chelsea to get all 3 pts against the Wolves. Rooney is back at his old stomping grounds and he'll be fired up for this one and no one seems like they can stop him at the moment. We'll also have Vidic back and he'll take care of Saha.

Gargamel · 02-19-10, 07:11 PM

Odds on United are about 1.8 though, although I roughly agree with what you say RedDevil11. Surely there is no value in that?

Everton have scored in every home game except one this season, and I see them getting one tomorrow as well. Anyhow, too tricky for me. I'll leave this one alone.

EDIT: Everton or Draw at 1.9 might be fairly good. Can also see some temper in this game. OVER 4 cards should be all right, although Fellaini and Cahill would've helped on that one.

patblue03 · 02-19-10, 07:17 PM

who knows lol

samitarian · 02-19-10, 07:28 PM

i think 1.80 on man utd is terrific, everton overpriced due to their win over chelsea.

if you watched their game against sporting, they were all over the place, and plus they're gonna miss fellaini and cahill.
arteta is not up to speed yet, and man utd have been solid.

i think i will go big stakes on this

Parkinho · 02-19-10, 07:40 PM

1.80 isn't terrible bearing in mind Cahill/Fellaini. 1.86 is available on Betfair at the moment.

Gargamel · 02-19-10, 07:46 PM

Perhaps wrong thread and I don't know if anyone here cares the slightest of what I say, but my plays for this weekend's Premier League are a parlay with Arsenal&Chelsea at 1.66, and Fulham to keep a clean sheet at 2.5. Might add one or two tomorrow.

pavyracer · 02-20-10, 12:03 AM

Best play is the under.

minet123 · 02-20-10, 12:14 AM

I took Everton +0.5,+1 -130 which is a lot of chalk but I like Everton at home here They have been tough and Man U has to let down at some point

Arsenal · 02-20-10, 01:01 AM

Man U to win for me. Rooney to score against his old team

Sportslover · 02-20-10, 01:08 AM

With Fellaini and Cahill injured, I think Man Utd gets a win on the road here.

tbill11 · 02-20-10, 01:39 AM

I'm actually a fan of the over in this game. Think about it, Everton and Man U will both score a goal in this game. And I don't think it will be a draw, or if it is a draw, it will be 2-2. Over seems like a nice crumbs play

JOHON8 · 02-20-10, 01:59 AM

The odds on Man Utd should be 2.5 other than 1.8. If that was so then I would go for it. Otherwise I only see value in the draw here. Everton are strong at home, if they can beat Chelsea without Fellaini then they can tie United IMO.

skrtelfan · 02-20-10, 03:04 AM

Everton's going to miss old microphone head, that's for sure.

fuglyboy86hi · 02-20-10, 03:23 AM

i think rooney is looking forward to score in this game two , and atleast 2 goals !

so i think, May be MAN U can grab this one too !

vitalogist · 02-20-10, 04:44 AM

Everton +350. book it.

citlec · 02-20-10, 05:18 AM

Tight game this one but if I had to choose then I'd go with under with a Man Utd win if the score is still 0-0 and they get above Evens.

JohnAnthony · 02-20-10, 05:33 AM

i think 1.80 on man utd is terrific, everton overpriced due to their win over chelsea.

Spot on. I'm on Man Utd @ 1.83, GL!

Sforz · 02-20-10, 06:48 AM

man u and the over, wish me luck.

bigjonson · 02-20-10, 07:19 AM

on Man U straight up to win.

This game can turn into an all out scorefest.

One thing is for sure there will be some real heart out on the field today.

Pride and bragging rights on the line

Gargamel · 02-20-10, 07:41 AM

I'll back my talk up with a half unit play on Everton/Draw at 1.83. Think it is the stronger bet, but a little worried.

After all, Gary Neville, Park and Berbatov are playing. And Vidic didn't make it.

thirtytwo · 02-20-10, 07:54 AM

took Man U as well

dachx · 02-20-10, 09:19 AM

Over 2.5 I think

Sforz · 02-20-10, 09:35 AM

congrats everton and over backers

JOHON8 · 02-20-10, 09:50 AM

3-1 for Everton... what a game.

I think it was unlucky for those who were backing the draw though. Rooney came really close to drawing 2-2 on the freekick. I knew United were overrated in this game, but I don't think anyone expected them to concede 3 goals. The over and he tie were the top 2 picks for me, glad 1 hit.

tailmypicks · 02-20-10, 09:52 AM

excellent result for CFC

protein · 02-20-10, 10:17 AM

WTF ManU lost. Anyone watched the game can do brief comment what happened?

Sforz · 02-20-10, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by protein

WTF ManU lost. Anyone watched the game can do brief comment what happened?

for the most part Rooney was kept in check, questionable subs on man u side, everton showed good speed and capitalized on some crosses in the box. Man U had plenty of good crosses going into the box, plus a ton of corners, just couldn't convert...leaves you wondering, if Rooney isn't 'on', who will step up? Rooney did have a couple very nice passes/crosses, and one fk that missed by about a yard, but all in all he looked off.

RedDevil11 · 02-20-10, 11:09 AM

Evans and Brown played like $hite...worst centre back pairing we've ever had. As always we struggle after Europe....Fair play to the Toffees, they outplayed us pretty much in every area.

cav1x · 02-20-10, 11:21 AM

this was the worst mu I saw for years

cuteboy86hi · 02-20-10, 11:30 AM

this result was expected