Why was the shot clock reset to 5 seconds on the jump ball?

**jeffdane** · 06-19-12, 11:17 PM

it was a rule i didnt know either

**Br0nxer** · 06-19-12, 11:17 PM

kewl story brah

**ramones951** · 06-19-12, 11:17 PM

My guess would be... Yes?

**turtlejc** · 06-19-12, 11:19 PM

Westbrook didn't know this either!

**onlooker** · 06-19-12, 11:22 PM

Knowing it or not. There are big shot clocks on both ends of the court above the backboard. Someone on the Thunder had to of seen it. Then communicated it to the rest of the team in the game.

On a tie up, I thought the clock would reset to 14 seconds. Not 5 though.

**Cuse0323** · 06-19-12, 11:22 PM

"The 24-second clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 5 seconds, whichever is greater, any time on jump balls retained by the offensive team as the result of a held ball caused by the defense."

**onlooker** · 06-19-12, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Cuse0323

"The 24-second clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 5 seconds, whichever is greater, any time on jump balls retained by the offensive team as the result of a held ball caused by the defense."

**alta** · 06-19-12, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

It was at .8 of a second, then it was reset to to 5 seconds. Is that the rule on tie ups???

Magic, Jon Barry and ESPN crew said the shot clock reset to 5 seconds is a rule in this situation.
However they didn't actually explain the wording of the rule.

**starfire** · 06-19-12, 11:27 PM

Who cares!
Heat ea$y

**jeffdane** · 06-19-12, 11:29 PM

The 24-second clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 14 seconds, whichever is greater, anytime the following occurs:
(1) Personal foul by the defense where ball is being inbounded in frontcourt
(2) Defensive three-second violation
(3) Technical fouls and/or delay-of-game warnings on the defensive team
(4) Kicked or punched ball by the defensive team with the ball being inbounded in the offensive team's front-court
(5) Infection control
(6) Jump balls retained by the offensive team as the result of a held ball caused by the defense

must have changed at some point

**rm18** · 06-19-12, 11:31 PM

seen it like 80 times before

**EmpireMaker** · 06-20-12, 12:18 AM

why doesn't Brooks remind his team of this ???

**onlooker** · 06-20-12, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by EmpireMaker

why doesn't Brooks remind his team of this ???

Someone on the Thunder should of been screaming, "5 5 5 5 5 5, no foul no foul no foul."

**PickWinnerAllDay** · 06-20-12, 12:24 AM

Thunder don't win anyway I don't think. Durant's head wasn't on straight based on that last 3 he took. Very unlikely he knocks down the 3 if they get the ball back.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 06-20-12, 12:31 AM

it is Rule #7, Section IV (e) (Page 29)

Content Unavailable

http://www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2006-07.pdf

The 24-second clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 5 seconds, whichever is greater, any time on jump balls retained by the offensive team as the result of a held ball caused by the defense.

It's a bullshit rule but it's better than when it reset to 14 seconds back in 2003 and 24 seconds a long time ago. It's hurts the defense. You force a jumpball with one second on the clock(which would be great defensive/hustle play) then they win the tip, and get an additional 5 secs to run a play instead of the one second that was originally there.

Horrible rule but Westbrook should have known that it wouldn't reset back to 24 and no reason to foul in that spot. Scotty Brooks has looked like shit in this series. Totally out of is element.

**onlooker** · 06-20-12, 12:32 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

it is Rule #7, Section IV (e) (Page 29)

Content Unavailable

http://www.nba.com/media/rule_book_2006-07.pdf

The 24-second clock shall remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 5 seconds, whichever is greater, any time on jump balls retained by the offensive team as the result of a held ball caused by the defense.

It's a bullshit rule but it's better than when it reset to 14 seconds back in 2003 and 24 seconds a long time ago. It's hurts the defense. You force a jumpball with one second on the clock(which would be great defensive/hustle play) then they win the tip, and get an additional 5 secs to run a play instead of the one second that was originally there.

Horrible rule but Westbrook should have known that it wouldn't reset back to 24 and no reason to foul in that spot. Scotty Brooks has looked like shit in this series. Totally out of is element.

Tweet that PDF to Westbrook.

**daimoshokage** · 06-20-12, 12:50 AM

Coach Spo > Scott DUMB Brooks

Brooks should have a called a timeout before the jump ball.. You can see that durant is asking for a timeout.. Fukking idiot Brooks.. Glad they lost..

Miami Heat all day baby!!!!

**migz** · 06-20-12, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by daimoshokage

Coach Spo > Scott DUMB Brooks

Brooks should have a called a timeout before the jump ball.. You can see that durant is asking for a timeout.. Fukking idiot Brooks.. Glad they lost..

Miami Heat all day baby!!!!

Yeah, that was a costly mistake. Remember Josh Howard calling a timeout during a free throw on 2006 NBA Finals? Damn! Or Thunder shouldn't have forced them jump ball and let the time expires

**jsmithj88** · 06-20-12, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

it is Rule #7, Section IV (e) (Page 29)

Horrible rule but Westbrook should have known that it wouldn't reset back to 24 and no reason to foul in that spot. Scotty Brooks has looked like shit in this series. Totally out of is element.

this is on the coach, he shud have made sure people knew

**Sport_Fish** · 06-20-12, 01:28 AM

Im on the same boat as Westbrook, didn't know the shot clock would reset to 5, until the announcer said it.

But then again, I'm not playing in an NBA finals game, Westbrook is....no excuse there, he should know any and all rules of the league.

**rm18** · 06-20-12, 01:29 AM

Don't blame Westbrook blame his mom for smoking crack while pregnant

**krk1030** · 06-20-12, 01:37 AM

I could have sworn ive seen it he at like 2 seconds and stay there.

Maybe the announcers were just wrong and i didnt notice.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 06-20-12, 01:52 AM

it's a stupid rule and i doubt any of the players knew...

**onlooker** · 06-20-12, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

it's a stupid rule and i doubt any of the players knew...

There is a big shot clock with red numbers on it. I can't buy that no one on the Thunder knew.

Mario said he looked up at it, and seen he needed to get a shot off quick. So no one on the Thunder did? Just bad communication by the Thunder on that play.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 06-20-12, 02:01 AM

what i'm saying is they shouldn't reset the clock to 5 seconds. why do they need to reset it when the offense just air-balled? when it's a jump ball it's not like the possession changed. why does the offense get the advantage? just doesn't make sense...

if harden knew the jump ball would cause a 5 second reset, he would have just let the ball go instead of trying to tie up the ball. does that make sense?

**onlooker** · 06-20-12, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

what i'm saying is they shouldn't reset the clock to 5 seconds. why do they need to reset it when the offense just air-balled? when it's a jump ball it's not like the possession changed. why does the offense get the advantage? just doesn't make sense...

if harden knew the jump ball would cause a 5 second reset, he would have just let the ball go and not try to get the jump ball. does that make sense?

I understand what your saying there. Harden had 0.8 to figure out if he should let it go or not. Heat of the moment, they aren't worrying about getting the shot clock violation. Just get the rebound and call timeout, but he got tied up.

Regardless of the rule being "dumb", they had dead ball time to see the shot clock reset to 5, not 24, or even 14.

Communication breakdown.

**EmpireMaker** · 06-20-12, 02:07 AM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

it's a stupid rule and i doubt any of the players knew...

That is one of the responsibilities of the coach to keep his team informed on these types of things. Brooks = Failure

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 06-20-12, 02:08 AM

5 seconds is too much when the game clock is at 13. it's not fair for the defense.

**onlooker** · 06-20-12, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

5 seconds is too much when the game clock is at 13. it's not fair for the defense.

It's the rule. They just didn't fabricate that rule in that moment to favor the Heat. But I'm sure some that roam this forum had thoughts of that.

The entire Thunder team should of seen it reset to 5. Heat were going to force a shot, that may or may not of went in. If it didn't, Thunder would have, 7 or 8 seconds if they got the rebound? Calling a timeout and a chance to tie.

Communication breakdown.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 06-20-12, 02:21 AM

i'm not saying it's been fabricated. when there wasn't a change of possession, the shot clock should stay the same. that's all i'm saying...