I just don't let little things in life bother me,,,but you my friend Spoken As A True Gentlemen,,,,Good Luck to allll this week,,rob
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Rob7168SBR MVP
- 10-01-10
- 2313
#36Comment -
chouse23SBR Sharp
- 11-12-10
- 261
#37Colin Cowherd Week 6 Blazin' 5:
Cleveland +1
Colts +2.5 (as mentioned earlier in the week, his largest play)
Pittsburgh +2.5
Denver +7
Jacksonville -3Comment -
HottotrotSBR High Roller
- 07-29-13
- 161
#38Wiseguys agreeement on
Browns
Colts
Steelers ( biggest agreement)
Broncos
Disagree on
Jags
Bonus pick
Redskins ( disagree )Comment -
Vicky0076SBR High Roller
- 09-30-18
- 220
#39Any idea what his ytd record is and who are the wiseguys?Comment -
scottelSBR MVP
- 10-09-09
- 1326
#42week 1 2 3 4 5 agree disagree total week 1 hou +6.5
agree
lossnyg +3
agree
lossbal -7
agree
winmin -6
agree
winnyj +6.5
disagree
win2-2 1-0 3-2 week 2 atl -5.5
disagree
winind +6
agree
winpit -4.5
agree
lossjac +1
disagree
winsea +3.5
agree
loss1-2 2-0 3-2 week 3 ind +6.5
agree
winnyg +6
agree
wincin +3
disagree
losswsh +3
agree
winsea -1.5
agree
win4-0 0-1 4-1 week 4 oak -2.5
agree
winind -1
agree
lossari +3
disagree
pushnyg +3.5
agree
lossbal +3.5
agree
win2-2 0-0-1 2-2-1 week 5 nyj -1.5
agree
winoak +5.5
disagree
lossmin +3
agree
winari +5.5
agree
winwsh +6.5
agree
loss3-1 0-1 3-2 Comment -
scottelSBR MVP
- 10-09-09
- 1326
#4312-7 on "wiseguy" agreements, don't know who wiseguys are.
RJ Bell says if wiseguys agree or notComment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#44The wise guys are simply what lines move, RJ doesn’t know any wiseguys that actually win money. He talks to Fezziks dumbass and watches lines move and if Colin’s pick is against the line move then it’s considered a disagreeingComment -
HottotrotSBR High Roller
- 07-29-13
- 161
#45amazing how dumb people are in this forum. Beat The Fix has my nominationComment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#46Bro you’re a dope, RJ bells wise guys are line movement you damn idiot. Any time a line moves that’s what he considers a wise guy move and his biggest wiseguy is Fezzik! I’m dumb you wanna see my plays and how much I win compared to your dumbass? Learn a thing or 2 about sports betting before you call me dumb. I’ll dominate you in any facet of this game. GTFO here moron. You prob think pregame is a legit site and RJ bell actually knows what he’s talking about. He talks to sports book directors and wherever the big money is he constitutes as a wiseguy play. Just bc a line move doesn’t mean it’s a wiseguy. Come at me again bro let’s hear what your definition of an RJ bell wise guy is. You’re seriously a dope.Comment -
HottotrotSBR High Roller
- 07-29-13
- 161
#47Classic. You sound angry. Don’t call people like Fezzik an idiot. Guy prolly makes 10x more money than you. And of course you win a ton. That’s why you’re on here searching for picks. You’re prolly 25 yrs old living at home with Mommy. Go away with calling people idiots and telling everyone how much you make. Why don’t you contribute clown assComment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#48Classic. You sound angry. Don’t call people like Fezzik an idiot. Guy prolly makes 10x more money than you. And of course you win a ton. That’s why you’re on here searching for picks. You’re prolly 25 yrs old living at home with Mommy. Go away with calling people idiots and telling everyone how much you make. Why don’t you contribute clown ass
I don’t search for picks moron, Fezzik doesn’t make shit, you’re a clown he doesn’t even bet anymore bc he got his ass handed to him. You’re dopey ass is in here praising pregame and Colin cowherd 😂😂. There’s not one service in this forum or out there that actually wins. You’re a joke dude. Keep taking fezziks picks & you’ll be even broker than you are. When did I ever say how much money I make? I said my picks are better than yours and if you wanna battle me or post pics of tickets and accounts let’s go buddy. You won’t bc you’re a keyboard tough guy. You have know clue what a true wiseguy is or a wise guy move. Just keep taking colin & fezziks plays and you’ll be done betting real soon. Good luck buddy. Yup I live in mamas basement & just bet all day and don’t have a job, At least you got something right!Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
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PatrickSarniSBR Wise Guy
- 03-14-16
- 570
#51Most people probably missed it but last year on one of the shows Colin asked RJ who his wiseguys were? It caught RJ totally off guard. There was silence for at least 12-15 seconds and then RJ replied, " uh Fezzik". There are no other wiseguys and if a tournament bettor who is down money the last two years is your only wiseguy your in real trouble.Comment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#52Most people probably missed it but last year on one of the shows Colin asked RJ who his wiseguys were? It caught RJ totally off guard. There was silence for at least 12-15 seconds and then RJ replied, " uh Fezzik". There are no other wiseguys and if a tournament bettor who is down money the last two years is your only wiseguy your in real trouble.Comment -
clockwise1965SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-01-13
- 6753
#53Most people probably missed it but last year on one of the shows Colin asked RJ who his wiseguys were? It caught RJ totally off guard. There was silence for at least 12-15 seconds and then RJ replied, " uh Fezzik". There are no other wiseguys and if a tournament bettor who is down money the last two years is your only wiseguy your in real trouble.
Here is the bottom line. If you use Colin's pick or who every and your making money. That is all that matters.
I personally dont use anyone mentioned in this thread because they imo are too inconsistent.
I use a couple different services for a few sports and that is what works for me.
I do however enjoy Colin's show.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#54There's a reason why Fezzik just wins tournaments. I'm a horse bettor too, and trust me when I tell you, tournaments are far more about understanding the "game" of the tournament and THEN handicapping, as far as the average person regards using analysis on a given race. As a result, there are good tourney players (Fezzik admits this) and the handicapping is in itself a smaller part of winning the contest. Of course, you have to be a smart guy both handicapping and playing wise to win the tournament, so I don't want to take credit away from where it is due BUT ask Fezzik or Jonathon Kinchen (DRF 'capper) about a given game or race and you'll see why people look at them in a different light outside of contests. Contests aren't real life betting such as what we discuss (game, EV, etc.) , and they aren't long term and they aren't against a vig. They are against other players in a particular location at a particular time, with a pre-defined and ordained style of betting. That is not me or you going to the sportsbook or OTB.
Fezzik won in 2008 and 2009. He got 64% and 62% (5 and 3 ties, respectively) right with Wednesday lines (see how that may be different from betting your own money and how much already???) which is still a great job but let's call it what it is.
There were 350 entries in 2008, and 328 entries in 2009.
Do you know that he didn't have a couple of entries, or was team on another entry? No, neither do I.
Fast forward to 2011 (517 entries) and 2012 (745). In 2013 there is 1034 entries, TRIPLING Fezzik's competition just 5 years prior. Notice that he's not even in the top 20.
The internet these days, especially when large swaths of money are involved (read: instagram, porn, sports betting, social media, politics, etc) is so fake. It's all about selling a dream.
It would be healthier if we all just admitted it, finally.Comment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#55There's a reason why Fezzik just wins tournaments. I'm a horse bettor too, and trust me when I tell you, tournaments are far more about understanding the "game" of the tournament and THEN handicapping, as far as the average person regards using analysis on a given race. As a result, there are good tourney players (Fezzik admits this) and the handicapping is in itself a smaller part of winning the contest. Of course, you have to be a smart guy both handicapping and playing wise to win the tournament, so I don't want to take credit away from where it is due BUT ask Fezzik or Jonathon Kinchen (DRF 'capper) about a given game or race and you'll see why people look at them in a different light outside of contests. Contests aren't real life betting such as what we discuss (game, EV, etc.) , and they aren't long term and they aren't against a vig. They are against other players in a particular location at a particular time, with a pre-defined and ordained style of betting. That is not me or you going to the sportsbook or OTB.
Fezzik won in 2008 and 2009. He got 64% and 62% (5 and 3 ties, respectively) right with Wednesday lines (see how that may be different from betting your own money and how much already???) which is still a great job but let's call it what it is.
There were 350 entries in 2008, and 328 entries in 2009.
Do you know that he didn't have a couple of entries, or was team on another entry? No, neither do I.
Fast forward to 2011 (517 entries) and 2012 (745). In 2013 there is 1034 entries, TRIPLING Fezzik's competition just 5 years prior. Notice that he's not even in the top 20.
The internet these days, especially when large swaths of money are involved (read: instagram, porn, sports betting, social media, politics, etc) is so fake. It's all about selling a dream.
It would be healthier if we all just admitted it, finally.
This dude finally got tracked by a 3rd party 2 years ago and what do you know he loses both years and was down over 100 units last year until he started betting 3* bombs and 10+ plays a day for the last few months bc he had nothing to lose and got hot to only lose about 20 units. This year he’s about even bc he has a good few weekends last month, he’ll be down close to 50 units this year I can guarantee. His games are garbage and all he cares about is beating the closing line more than winning which is the biggest joke ever!! Also when was the last time he actually posted a screen shot of a ticket of one of his bets or screen shot of a betting account 🤔?? Pretty much never and his partner aka lover RJ’s excuse was, “Steve doesn’t show his tickets bc of tax purposes 😂😂.” I swear pregame is such a dumpster fire & ppl feed into their bullshit. It’s comical what these 2 morons come up w each week in the excuse department!!
Good shit Stacking green at least a few ppl know what the real story is unlike most naive ppl in this forum!Comment -
pet2150SBR Sharp
- 10-31-14
- 278
#56Pregame is a marketing machine. The posters that have been on this forum for awhile know the handicappers that win and the vast major that don't win. If you don't know the 2 or 3 services that actually win. Your already behind the 8 ball.
The rest is just noise.Comment -
ikid2groove415SBR Posting Legend
- 01-08-18
- 11981
#57He finally got buried on a big bet - (colts)- I doubt colin gambles a Pennie tho - I been listening 2 him over 10 years - using gambling 2 get more ratings for his tv/radio show -Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#58
Also, for a guy I actually somewhat respected regarding his opinion, Cowherd was ALWAYS the worst with callers and never giving them a chance to explain or rebut, he simply read what was in his mind into their words. Quite annoying. A bit of an elitist but most sports fans are retards so I don't hold it all against him. The problem with talk radio is that you either have to be a 100% listener to get in and respected, or you listen every day and are stupid so when you finally call they smack you down and you say what's the point.
I got interviewed to do that ESPN 2 minute drill show with Kenny Mayne a long time ago but they wanted to fly me out to NY without a guarantee of being on the show (another round or written test) , and it was finals for me at school, so I had to say no.Comment -
Heltah SkeltahSBR MVP
- 12-05-17
- 3499
#59Cowherd is a clown. Guy has RJ Bell on his show...really says it all. Bell is nothing but a real scumbag.Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#60Remember when deadspin leaked those conferences of his with the other "handicappers"? LOL
I don't trust deadspin as far as I can throw those pricks, but a story is a story and this one with anything remotely related to shadiness was very believable.
You have to hand it to Bell, I'd say, in the end. He successfully tapped into a huge market not as a tout by himself, but as a polished marketer with side gigs few others knew about and that he kept on the sly, yet that still rendered huge profits and affiliate (offshore book) payouts.
I'm not sure of the ethics, but anyone who pays for picks that doesn't understand the workings of the books and the real ways lines are adjusted pretty much was gonna lose that money somewhere else, some other way, guaranteed. Fool and his money, indeed.
Modern sports are awful in terms of volatility. A casual bettor has no shot. That's 97-98% of players. I think baseball is one of the few left that has value, which is strange but true. MLB is just a superior league at this point.Comment -
chouse23SBR Sharp
- 11-12-10
- 261
#61Colin has one bad week and the trolls come out in full force. Classic. If you don't like him or his plays then don't follow this thread and don't clog it up with your senseless bs. Get a life and move on.Comment -
Heltah SkeltahSBR MVP
- 12-05-17
- 3499
#62
Seems like a good thing to meComment -
rolltide1784SBR Hustler
- 09-24-16
- 54
#63
Because most of the posters “voicing their knowledge” are idiots that don’t have any knowledge and immediately hate every tout or radio personality that posts plays because they don’t understand that being a successful gambler takes a 55% winning percentage. Most people on gambling forums are the guys that buy 1 weekend of picks off a service and then trash them if they don’t go 90%. Gambling isn’t a get rich quick scheme and Colin has been consistent as anyone out there for 5 years and free. But it doesn’t matter because in this world people will always find something to complain about!Comment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#64Because most of the posters “voicing their knowledge” are idiots that don’t have any knowledge and immediately hate every tout or radio personality that posts plays because they don’t understand that being a successful gambler takes a 55% winning percentage. Most people on gambling forums are the guys that buy 1 weekend of picks off a service and then trash them if they don’t go 90%. Gambling isn’t a get rich quick scheme and Colin has been consistent as anyone out there for 5 years and free. But it doesn’t matter because in this world people will always find something to complain about!Comment -
ikid2groove415SBR Posting Legend
- 01-08-18
- 11981
#65Absolutely and he's smart for doing it. I think he's more interesting than most talk show hosts (and he repeats himself ALL the time, but damn, he's on the air 3-5 hours a day, so I get it) but if he didn't have blazing 5 what person with a job even goes back to watch the broadcast of his show during the middle of a day. Haha, who cares.
Also, for a guy I actually somewhat respected regarding his opinion, Cowherd was ALWAYS the worst with callers and never giving them a chance to explain or rebut, he simply read what was in his mind into their words. Quite annoying. A bit of an elitist but most sports fans are retards so I don't hold it all against him. The problem with talk radio is that you either have to be a 100% listener to get in and respected, or you listen every day and are stupid so when you finally call they smack you down and you say what's the point.
I got interviewed to do that ESPN 2 minute drill show with Kenny Mayne a long time ago but they wanted to fly me out to NY without a guarantee of being on the show (another round or written test) , and it was finals for me at school, so I had to say no.Comment -
HottotrotSBR High Roller
- 07-29-13
- 161
#66Roll tide, good response. Ignore beathefix. Guy gives his opinion nobody cares about. Guy a clown. Only thinks he knows how to gamble. Lol.Comment -
ikid2groove415SBR Posting Legend
- 01-08-18
- 11981
#67Colin is a preety honest guy IMO - and like I said he’s decent with his picks - rather he puts a Pennie on the Games are irrelevant-Comment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#68Yup ignore me that’s why I have at least 5-6 ppl on my side talking about the topic I brought up. Nice try foxTrot. You prob bet $25-50 a game which is fine, but don’t you dare act like you know a damn thing about this game. I bet big win big & lose big as well. Also you saying I’m in here looking for picks?? Take a look at my past posts I never once asked for anyone’s garbage picks and I give insight on anyone I’ve ever dealt w earlier in my life when I realized they’re all scamming you. I speak nothing but facts! But keep feeding pregame your money, terrible investment Even if it makes you feel more confident to have someone else pick your games for you since you don’t know the first thing of doing so. Done w you unless you wanna post some tickets or screen shots of your accounts so we could compare who wins more, bets bigger and has a damn clue of what they’re doing? Let’s go buddyComment -
pet2150SBR Sharp
- 10-31-14
- 278
#69It is far from irrelevant that the person putting the pick out is not betting on the game. I watch Colins show but I have never bet on his picks. He has the blazing 5 segment on his show because a lot of people gamble on sports and will tune in to see his picks regardless how good they are.Comment -
BeatTheFix20SBR Rookie
- 03-05-18
- 40
#70It is far from irrelevant that the person putting the pick out is not betting on the game. I watch Colins show but I have never bet on his picks. He has the blazing 5 segment on his show because a lot of people gamble on sports and will tune in to see his picks regardless how good they are.Comment
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