Ed Gulden's RAS

hipster · 10-21-13, 04:00 PM

Sharp post.

downsouth · 10-21-13, 05:05 PM

Yes, done for the season. 49-40 +6.00 Did not go back and add up all plays but I believe the closing line mattered on 1 this season.

Not a huge season but not a loser either.

madden08 · 10-21-13, 06:19 PM

Not Worth The Price This Season

jerrykroc · 10-21-13, 06:32 PM

Golden

hipster · 10-21-13, 06:46 PM

Sharp as a rotten banana

JR007 · 10-21-13, 07:07 PM

well, maybe there should be a reflection of what he charges for the service, a proration of the subscription based on his record

MattyGPA · 10-21-13, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by JR007

well, maybe there should be a reflection of what he charges for the service, a proration of the subscription based on his record

So when he has a great season, should people pro-rate to pay more?

jerrykroc · 10-21-13, 07:41 PM

Originally posted by JR007

well, maybe there should be a reflection of what he charges for the service, a proration of the subscription based on his record

Why, 90% of all touts lose money and they don't offer money back?

Or touts offer "pay after you win scams" and throw out a multitude of picks so that merely by hitting 50% generates an income stream for the tout.

JR007 · 10-21-13, 09:13 PM

point being.... the results are not worth the money

downsouth · 10-21-13, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by JR007

point being.... the results are not worth the money

Depends on your definition of worth the money. If your betting $100/game then obviously not, because $600 does not justify paying $1100.

But what about if your betting $1000 a game, then does it justify the costs?

Enfuego · 10-21-13, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Depends on your definition of worth the money. If your betting $100/game then obviously not, because $600 does not justify paying $1100.

But what about if your betting $1000 a game, then does it justify the costs?

And how many dudes do you know that are laying down $1,000 per game?

downsouth · 10-21-13, 10:55 PM

Originally posted by Enfuego

And how many dudes do you know that are laying down $1,000 per game?

I know a few around me. These are generally guys that take it pretty seriously though.

IF your subscribing to RAS you generally should be or at least laying $500 and splitting it with someone. RAS/Edward himself will tell you not to subscribe if you betting $100-$200 bucks/game

Enfuego · 10-21-13, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

I know a few around me. These are generally guys that take it pretty seriously though.

IF your subscribing to RAS you generally should be or at least laying $500 and splitting it with someone. RAS/Edward himself will tell you not to subscribe if you betting $100-$200 bucks/game

So, let me ask again, how many players do you personally know that lay $1,000 a game?

Wojo · 10-21-13, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by hipster

Sharp post.

I agree!

Very creative, funny post, JR!

primetime27 · 10-22-13, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Enfuego

So, let me ask again, how many players do you personally know that lay $1,000 a game?

Here is the thing, many people lay 1k a game and most of the time they have multiple accounts so essentially they are betting more than 1k. That said, with multiple accounts you do miss out on the posted number on some of those accounts.

brainy smurf · 10-22-13, 12:22 AM

anytime you finish the year plus units it's a good year.

KyTn · 10-22-13, 06:58 AM

I know a handful that bet a dime a game. I do on occasion, and did Sunday night(loser) and Monday night (winner). Nickels mainly.

Enfuego · 10-22-13, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by primetime27

Here is the thing, many people lay 1k a game and most of the time they have multiple accounts so essentially they are betting more than 1k. That said, with multiple accounts you do miss out on the posted number on some of those accounts.

I don't think "many" people lay 1K a game. Just my opinion. They may say they do but do they really? Your recreational players (like most guys are) lay between 10-20 a game.

chilidog · 10-22-13, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Enfuego

I don't think "many" people lay 1K a game. Just my opinion. They may say they do but do they really? Your recreational players (like most guys are) lay between 10-20 a game.

Edward's customers are not recreational players. Furthermore, just because you personally don't know many people that bet $1k+ per game, that does not mean that there aren't many.

hallandale · 10-22-13, 10:03 AM

Down south you are 100% right. RAS only wants discipline players not sports junkies. They can go to all the BS sites like BUDIN Root RJ they be happy to take your $$$$

theplaya · 10-22-13, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Enfuego

I don't think "many" people lay 1K a game. Just my opinion. They may say they do but do they really? Your recreational players (like most guys are) lay between 10-20 a game.

I personally don't know anyone that plays 10-20 a game. But I do know people that plays 1K or more a game.

JR007 · 10-22-13, 10:50 AM

most people do not have 1,000 to blow on these games, with family, college etc.....who in their right mind would ???......that's a hell of a lot of disposable income, just the fact that he's been visiting this forum, indicates to me that he has other motives, there is a lot of randomness, ie...... noise in these games, he's half admitted the market has caught up .....maybe this approach of clv, has outlived it's usefulness......time to look at sdql, maybe some other power ratings technique,,,,ie (winning points) his approach cannot get to 60% let alone 75% dr Ed Meyer was 17-0 in teaser bets prior to this week........hard to ignore these results maybe his computer models need to be updated...one would think so...think his approach works better in moneyline bets (baseball) than spread and totals betting

JR007 · 10-22-13, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by chilidog

Edward's customers are not recreational players. Furthermore, just because you personally don't know many people that bet $1k+ per game, that does not mean that there aren't many.

.I...think that they would be" happier" with better results for their money ????
especially if 15/25 dollar newsletters have better results...his system is "toast"
"the burnt kind"

Buckeyes · 10-22-13, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Enfuego

And how many dudes do you know that are laying down $1,000 per game?

Lmao the majority of RAS clients bet well over 1k a game

chilidog · 10-22-13, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by JR007

most people do not have 1,000 to blow on these games, with family, college etc.....who in their right mind would ???......that's a hell of a lot of disposable income, just the fact that he's been visiting this forum, indicates to me that he has other motives, there is a lot of randomness, ie...... noise in these games, he's half admitted the market has caught up .....maybe this approach of clv, has outlived it's usefulness......time to look at sdql, maybe some other power ratings technique,,,,ie (winning points) his approach cannot get to 60% let alone 75% dr Ed Meyer was 17-0 in teaser bets prior to this week........hard to ignore these results maybe his computer models need to be updated...one would think so...think his approach works better in moneyline bets (baseball) than spread and totals betting

You must be projecting your own life experiences onto others. I'm in my mid 30s; most people I know do have $1k to blow on games. Maybe you should hang out with a more successful crowd?

chilidog · 10-22-13, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by JR007

.I...think that they would be" happier" with better results for their money ????
especially if 15/25 dollar newsletters have better results...his system is "toast"
"the burnt kind"

Any season that ends in positive units, is a good season. And show me some newsletters that win, season in, season out, for numerous years in a row. I'd be quite happy to see this, as would a ton of other people.

hallandale · 10-22-13, 12:55 PM

Playing RAS in hoops last two years up 73.000 playing a grand a game. No service in the world did that!!

ANDTHEWINNERIS · 10-22-13, 01:56 PM

betting 1k per game requires a 50k bankroll and 2k a 100k bankroll, that eliminates almost, if not , everyone here

jahpoker · 10-22-13, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by chilidog

Edward's customers are not recreational players. .

This

Enfuego careful with your assumptions about what others are doing

KyTn · 10-22-13, 04:14 PM

Now that we have determined people bet different amounts, does anyone have the RAS play for tonight?

JR007 · 10-22-13, 04:17 PM

well, chilidog, I'm and glad you and your bros are that successful,(sounds like 6 figures) most people have responsibilities and jobs (that prohibit them from taking such risk) consider yourself fortunate.in this economy....I would have to dig into the archive but power sweep has kept records (handicapping contest) for a number of years now, WINNING POINTS has averaged around 59% for at least the past two years but I will endeavor to find out

money comes and goes, "your health is your wealth"so I consider myself successful... you will eventually find that out, a bit surprised you and your Bros don't have a" forecasting model' of your own ......or,you can watch the sbr screens and learn to cap your own games.......it's all there, if you are willing to put in the time....been doing this for 42 years
I've seen it all

Frats · 10-22-13, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by KyTn

Now that we have determined people bet different amounts, does anyone have the RAS play for tonight?

RAS is done for the year with college football. They've moved on to preparing for college hoops.

Kubie217 · 10-22-13, 04:38 PM

I bought his college football package and I'm happy with plus 6 units. I used multiple books and did 2k a game. All I was looking for out of football was to pay for college package and add couple bucks to my bankroll for college hoops and he achieved that. I will be purchasing his college package end of week and looking forward to college hoops season. If he duplicates last years totals I will be a very happy man. Btw. I got all lines he posted, never had a problem until one time they tried a different style getting plays out buy Edward took care of it right away.

MiloMacy · 10-22-13, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by Buckeyes

Lmao the majority of RAS clients bet well over 1k a game

RAS plainly tells you that not everyone is capable of using his plays becuase of the cost and the limits required to bet his plays.....RAS is absolutely the most well respected "tout" out there. i have used him for years and will continue...... if you say ONLY 6 units of profit over 8 weeks, then you my friend have NO clue about sports wagering...... i would guess the average play for his clients is 2k or better.....like he says not everyone can bet his stuff....