Tail very carefully... last 17 of 18 IC looses (CBB) were on favorites and also the last 6 home favorite teams he picked were ALL looser !
IC where have gone your underdogs that can win outright
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robertfabs
SBR Rookie
01-09-13
32
#3
He has a +1 underdog and touts the hell out of it winning outright. In the write up one time it says i believe this game will win outright lol. Crazy talk.. Good luck im fading today!
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Shanefalco13
SBR Sharp
10-16-12
275
#4
The funny part is that even with this losing streak... He hasnt even given out honest numbers. He gives out lines that were available yesterday or not at all with some. haha
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#5
Originally posted by Shanefalco13
The funny part is that even with this losing streak... He hasnt even given out honest numbers. He gives out lines that were available yesterday or not at all with some. haha
All Docs guys have the same number Shane. Not sure if you've bought their plays at all but Docs guys all give out the same exact numbers. Let's be a little honest here. You'll see Ferringo, IC and SPS with similar lines such as Fordham game today.
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robertfabs
SBR Rookie
01-09-13
32
#6
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
All Docs guys have the same number Shane. Not sure if you've bought their plays at all but Docs guys all give out the same exact numbers. Let's be a little honest here. You'll see Ferringo, IC and SPS with similar lines such as Fordham game today.
Here he goes again! After we had a talk. Rather then saying IC is scamming us with a number that no one can get, you want to defend him and find a loophole. If ferringo, sps jump off a bridge would u do it to IC? IC/SEC stop trying to be like RAS and give us lines that moved. Give us the real lines.
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Fader
SBR Wise Guy
04-07-12
730
#7
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
All Docs guys have the same number Shane. Not sure if you've bought their plays at all but Docs guys all give out the same exact numbers. Let's be a little honest here. You'll see Ferringo, IC and SPS with similar lines such as Fordham game today.
This is completely false. Lots of times Ferringo and Docs will have a game with a half point better than IC. IC usually puts out the accurate numbers. Docs and Ferringo usually have numbers from overnight. Just check the last two weeks when many of them had similar picks, IC picks would have a 0.5 pt difference.
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reddevil84
SBR High Roller
08-05-10
174
#8
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
All Docs guys have the same number Shane. Not sure if you've bought their plays at all but Docs guys all give out the same exact numbers. Let's be a little honest here. You'll see Ferringo, IC and SPS with similar lines such as Fordham game today.
SEC please tell me at which book you could have found today St. John's -3
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Shanefalco13
SBR Sharp
10-16-12
275
#9
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
All Docs guys have the same number Shane. Not sure if you've bought their plays at all but Docs guys all give out the same exact numbers. Let's be a little honest here. You'll see Ferringo, IC and SPS with similar lines such as Fordham game today.
1) Thats not true. I have seen IC and Ferrigno put up different lines on MANY different occassions.
2) I dont care about Doc's. For some reason you defend everything about IC. You claim RobertFabs defends Ferrigno. I have no interest in these inter Docs quarrels. As I dont trust ANYONE from Docs.
With that said, IC has not only been the worst on that site, but just about the worst in the entire industry, for what has now become an extended period of time.
I used to be able to get all of his lines easy. And thats how it should be since he does not move them at all. Now I cant.
Good to see no matter how many people call you out. No matter how bad IC is or what strategies he uses, you will still be here to defend ANY negative post about him from ANY poster.
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#10
Originally posted by robertfabs
Here he goes again! After we had a talk. Rather then saying IC is scamming us with a number that no one can get, you want to defend him and find a loophole. If ferringo, sps jump off a bridge would u do it to IC? IC/SEC stop trying to be like RAS and give us lines that moved. Give us the real lines.
Did you read what Fader wrote? IC usually gives better lines than most Docs guys but usually they are the same.
Red, I didn't get St. John's -3 at all, I got -4. What did you get?
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#11
Originally posted by Shanefalco13
1) Thats not true. I have seen IC and Ferrigno put up different lines on MANY different occassions.
2) I dont care about Doc's. For some reason you defend everything about IC. You claim RobertFabs defends Ferrigno. I have no interest in these inter Docs quarrels. As I dont trust ANYONE from Docs.
With that said, IC has not only been the worst on that site, but just about the worst in the entire industry, for what has now become an extended period of time.
I used to be able to get all of his lines easy. And thats how it should be since he does not move them at all. Now I cant.
Good to see no matter how many people call you out. No matter how bad IC is or what strategies he uses, you will still be here to defend ANY negative post about him from ANY poster.
Actually there are guys worse than IC but we never know because they never get tracked. Jason Sharpe went down -$10,000 in the NBA last year but we never heard a peep because no one followed him in that sport.
You just said that IC gives worse lines and Fader just pointed out his lines are usually better. I've generally seen IC with the same lines as the other guys or better lines. Its just the truth. But we can't have any of that around here. We have to have it both ways.
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#12
Originally posted by robertfabs
Here he goes again! After we had a talk. Rather then saying IC is scamming us with a number that no one can get, you want to defend him and find a loophole. If ferringo, sps jump off a bridge would u do it to IC? IC/SEC stop trying to be like RAS and give us lines that moved. Give us the real lines.
You just blasted the guy and now you want his lines and play them? Wow.
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tjfny
SBR Sharp
02-06-12
451
#13
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
Did you read what Fader wrote? IC usually gives better lines than most Docs guys but usually they are the same.
Red, I didn't get St. John's -3 at all, I got -4. What did you get?
what does it matter to you if its -3 or -4 you dont play his picks or did you forget that already?
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Kramlik
SBR Sharp
12-04-12
270
#14
SEC , Which Game Is His
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robertfabs
SBR Rookie
01-09-13
32
#15
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
Did you read what Fader wrote? IC usually gives better lines than most Docs guys but usually they are the same.
Red, I didn't get St. John's -3 at all, I got -4. What did you get?
I don't care what fader wrote. Don't you say you like RAS? And i think your IC? somehow you wanna be the guy who has line movement so you give out lines that moved way before you guys post it up on the site. Listen IC needs all the help he can get. You guys do that with football too. It makes me sick. Give the available line at the time you release your plays. Unbelievable what i am going through today trying to put these guys in line.
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robertfabs
SBR Rookie
01-09-13
32
#16
Then after someone brings up the fact these lines aren't available, Sec defends him and says everyone else at docs is doing it. This Guy's an animal.
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Kubie217
SBR Wise Guy
05-22-12
635
#17
Warriors
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Kubie217
SBR Wise Guy
05-22-12
635
#18
Sec. Didn't u say u only play his big plays. Now ur saying u played St. John's. thought St. John's is normal play. I'm confused
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#19
Originally posted by robertfabs
I don't care what fader wrote. Don't you say you like RAS? And i think your IC? somehow you wanna be the guy who has line movement so you give out lines that moved way before you guys post it up on the site. Listen IC needs all the help he can get. You guys do that with football too. It makes me sick. Give the available line at the time you release your plays. Unbelievable what i am going through today trying to put these guys in line.
Dude did you take your meds today? I LOVE Ras. What does all this have to do with me? I'm not IC. Get that through your skullhead. Why do you care about his lines anyway? I thought you weren't playing his picks? You care awful lot about a line when you're not playing his picks. This comment shows how little you know about gambling. Because a capper gives a line that is off base does not mean he's trying to indicate line movement. It makes no sense at all. You're putting who in line?
You think because you created a username on a forum today you single handedly are about to change some industry?
I am not IC man. Just get that through your head and we're cool.
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#20
Originally posted by Kubie217
Sec. Didn't u say u only play his big plays. Now ur saying u played St. John's. thought St. John's is normal play. I'm confused
I answered a question that Red asked. I didn't see -3 on St. Johns either. All I see in my book is -4. And no, I'm not on it.
Only playing I'm playing is his Gotw in NBA today.
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Shanefalco13
SBR Sharp
10-16-12
275
#21
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
Actually there are guys worse than IC but we never know because they never get tracked. Jason Sharpe went down -$10,000 in the NBA last year but we never heard a peep because no one followed him in that sport.
You just said that IC gives worse lines and Fader just pointed out his lines are usually better. I've generally seen IC with the same lines as the other guys or better lines. Its just the truth. But we can't have any of that around here. We have to have it both ways.
Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
People do talk about it... Oh wait, you made that thread. After defending IC in every post your first 2,000 posts, you conveniently also find time to shit on EVERYONE ELSE in DOC's except the one guy that has lost in EVERY SINGLE sport.
No one that takes a couple seconds and clicks on your past history and scrolls to your past posts could possibly believe that you dont at the least, get paid by IC.
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robertfabs
SBR Rookie
01-09-13
32
#22
Do you want a free SEASON of picks from IC? Take the first step and Sign up for a one day pass starting with his NHL.
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tjfny
SBR Sharp
02-06-12
451
#23
Originally posted by Kubie217
Sec. Didn't u say u only play his big plays. Now ur saying u played St. John's. thought St. John's is normal play. I'm confused
exactly. and he is a client of ic but he only posts his plays after they are already available. complete fraud
People do talk about it... Oh wait, you made that thread. After defending IC in every post your first 2,000 posts, you conveniently also find time to shit on EVERYONE ELSE in DOC's except the one guy that has lost in EVERY SINGLE sport.
No one that takes a couple seconds and clicks on your past history and scrolls to your past posts could possibly believe that you dont at the least, get paid by IC.
Right, and I sit around argue with Robert Ferringo on Robert's thread and other separate threads if I am IC? It makes no sense man. I don't get paid by a guy when I have my own business. All I've ever done is post his plays and tried to help the board. Just ridiculous. Did you not look up at that post when I make fun of IC and Ferringo? I'm sure with your detective work you can look that up to.
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Shanefalco13
SBR Sharp
10-16-12
275
#25
Originally posted by Kubie217
Sec. Didn't u say u only play his big plays. Now ur saying u played St. John's. thought St. John's is normal play. I'm confused
When IC lost in baseball he called me an idiot for playing him in baseball. He told me that I should have done my research and known only to play IC in CBB.NBA,WNBA and CFL.... Now look how his tune has changed.(thats not even mentionining the fact that I saw SEC in EVERY IC football thread even though in baseball he told me only idiots play touts in sports that arent their best.)
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robertfabs
SBR Rookie
01-09-13
32
#26
Originally posted by Kubie217
Sec. Didn't u say u only play his big plays. Now ur saying u played St. John's. thought St. John's is normal play. I'm confused
Kubie he doesn't know what he said. He's IC im telling you and i guarantee IC doesn't bet his own plays. If he played his own plays IC would be doing his videos out of a matchbox. Black and white camera lens.
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#27
Originally posted by tjfny
exactly. and he is a client of ic but he only posts his plays after they are already available. complete fraud
Red asked me a question so I answered it. I didn't see -3 but -4.
Only game I'm on is his Nba tonight and that's it. Not on any one of his other plays.
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#28
Originally posted by robertfabs
Kubie he doesn't know what he said. He's IC im telling you and i guarantee IC doesn't bet his own plays. If he played his own plays IC would be doing his videos out of a matchbox. Black and white camera lens.
Read above post. I replied to another poster who asked me a question, jesus christ. This is getting nuts.
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tjfny
SBR Sharp
02-06-12
451
#29
Originally posted by robertfabs
Do you want a free SEASON of picks from IC? Take the first step and Sign up for a one day pass starting with his NHL.
dont laugh i bought a vsi one day baseball package last year and it cost me 7k but he will be free next year til i show a profit!!!!!
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secisgreatkobsux
SBR MVP
06-13-10
2231
#30
Originally posted by tjfny
dont laugh i bought a vsi one day baseball package last year and it cost me 7k but he will be free next year til i show a profit!!!!!
You mean to say VSI lost -$7000 last year in Baseball?
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Kubie217
SBR Wise Guy
05-22-12
635
#31
It's funny he's not doing a video for two weeks. Guess it must be hard goin on video everyday after season he's had. Every video has same speech. Down day yesterday. Looking to bounce back. Lol. Maybe he's taking two weeks off for videos to get new material
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Raiderguy101
SBR MVP
12-20-11
2569
#32
If he's not doing videos for 2 weeks, be careful tailing him. I'm just assuming but I think he'll be on vacation. If he is on vacation or busy with whatever, you think he'll have time to cap? Be very careful.
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Shanefalco13
SBR Sharp
10-16-12
275
#33
Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
Now that would be funny!
I'm not doing PR man, I would know if the guy has lost 10 in a row because then I would Fade him myself. But, he hasn't, that's just not true. You should not be playing in sports he is not good at!
My theory on IC is this:
Sports IC makes a Profit:
Basketball: College Ball, WNBA and NBA - He's good - one of the best.
Canadian Football: He's good.
Football: He's not that good. Maybe he'll get better someday. He will say back to back years of Profit, but those weren't big successful years. So, in my book, he's not a Football guy. Maybe if he sticks to picking underdogs he'll become better.
Baseball/Hockey: He's not that good.
IC is good in 4 sports, sucks at 3. That's my summary and 2 cents.
^This was a post from October. Almost 3 months ago I was calling him a schill and he was using the exact same tactics. Blaming it on everyone else for what they chose to play and not on IC. Well now everyone is an idiot b/c they clearly should only be playing his Large plays! lmfao
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OpiateBank
SBR MVP
02-22-10
2485
#34
Shure looks like pr shill crap to me. SEC, me and you were tight . But your smirking clown now works for the man and not the people anymore.
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Raiderguy101
SBR MVP
12-20-11
2569
#35
I agree with Shane. SEC you switch up way to often. Almost as much as IC's betting strategies. Anyways here's his season numbers...