*OFFICIAL* Fade Joe Wiz, Wed 8-27-12

[99Boxster]

Fade Joe Wiz System

System Rules
1. Fade all Joe Wiz comps.
2. Bet a seperate Labby line for each comp.
3. If 2 comps are the same, play them for double.
4. Raise your bet after each cleared line based on bankroll management.

Comps
1. Website comp
2. 800 number comp
3. Email comp
4. Valley Sports comp
5. Capping Contests comp
6. Cappers Info comp
7. Best Free Picks comp
Note: 6 and 7 aren't posted until later in the day

System Example
$7,000 bankroll start on 8-21-12
Note: These are the fades. We are betting these plays.

1. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Twins/Mariners OVER 7.5 -120 $24 to win $20

2. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Twins/Mariners OVER 7.5 -120 $24 to win $20

3. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
(pass)

4. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Blue Jays/Yankees OVER 9.5 +100 $20 to win $20

5. 10 - 10
Rockies +140 $14.30 to win $20

6. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
(not posted yet)

7. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
(not posted yet)

Record
Total Record Since 8-21-12: 24-6 (80%)
Total Lines Cleared: 10
Total Profit: +$400
Total Bankroll: $7,400

[tigermaster]

Awesome, so happy you are doing this. Hope you can post his picks regularly. Joe Wiz is a great fade.

[LarryLeGrand]

Great effort Boxster, thanks a lot!!

[DHB]

nice work Boxster and chillidog!

[LizReed44]

Nice of you boys to do this - thanx

[99Boxster]

I can't edit my posts. Joe Wiz just put out the rest of his comps.

6. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Diamondbacks -110 $22 to win $20

7. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Indians +125 $16 to win $20


(The email comp is a pass)

[metsin7]

Well done boxter I commend your efforts

[eroger92]

Joe Wiz posts his plays, sometimes 10 minutes before gametime. It will be difficult to stay on top of every pick.

[metsin7]

Where there is a will, there is a way

[jimmcc01]

wow, great work. thanks for posting!

[rurku]

thank you sir!

[chilidog]

Thanks for doing this, boxster. With me living in Costa Rica, especially during rainy season, power goes out all the time (like it did all day long - also blowing up my wireless router).

Except for the 2 plays posted at cappersinfo and bestfreepicks, the rest of the plays are generally posted by 1-2pm EST. The plays at cappersinfo and bestfreepicks typically come out anytime between 3pm and 5pm, and sometimes literally are 5-10 minutes before gametime. You don't have to play these picks, but if you're around your computer and can reliably make the bets, they are a goldmine.

I know that since March of this year, ya'll have been loving tailing Wiz's mlb unders, but just wait and see what's in store. If you search back to early last year for some threads by 'asian executive' (i think the thread titles were something like labby fade), you'll see how much success was had fading wiz.

Stick to his free picks, there's no need to pay this guy for anything. Enjoy, and thanks again to boxter for getting this thread going. I just simply do not have the time do do it.

[Smashmouth71]

Chili,

How did you end up in CR?

Escape from our anti-gambling govt?

[chilidog]

After a divorce, I came down here to vacation with some friends, kind of to get mind off of things. Fell in love with the country, and made the move.

Chili,

How did you end up in CR?

Escape from our anti-gambling govt?

[metsin7]

Wow; I remember those posts, with Asian executive, which were like the birth of the labby fade (for me at least)..BOL

Thanks for doing this, boxster. With me living in Costa Rica, especially during rainy season, power goes out all the time (like it did all day long - also blowing up my wireless router).

Except for the 2 plays posted at cappersinfo and bestfreepicks, the rest of the plays are generally posted by 1-2pm EST. The plays at cappersinfo and bestfreepicks typically come out anytime between 3pm and 5pm, and sometimes literally are 5-10 minutes before gametime. You don't have to play these picks, but if you're around your computer and can reliably make the bets, they are a goldmine.

I know that since March of this year, ya'll have been loving tailing Wiz's mlb unders, but just wait and see what's in store. If you search back to early last year for some threads by 'asian executive' (i think the thread titles were something like labby fade), you'll see how much success was had fading wiz.

Stick to his free picks, there's no need to pay this guy for anything. Enjoy, and thanks again to boxter for getting this thread going. I just simply do not have the time do do it.

[metsin7]

Thx again boxster...just wondering; how are you calculating your bet size? I thought with a 7K bankroll your labby line might be bigger...thx n BOL

Fade Joe Wiz System

System Rules
1. Fade all Joe Wiz comps.
2. Bet a seperate Labby line for each comp.
3. If 2 comps are the same, play them for double.
4. Raise your bet after each cleared line based on bankroll management.

Comps
1. Website comp
2. 800 number comp
3. Email comp
4. Valley Sports comp
5. Capping Contests comp
6. Cappers Info comp
7. Best Free Picks comp
Note: 6 and 7 aren't posted until later in the day

System Example
$7,000 bankroll start on 8-21-12
Note: These are the fades. We are betting these plays.

1. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Twins/Mariners OVER 7.5 -120 $24 to win $20

2. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Twins/Mariners OVER 7.5 -120 $24 to win $20

3. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
(pass)

4. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
Blue Jays/Yankees OVER 9.5 +100 $20 to win $20

5. 10 - 10
Rockies +140 $14.30 to win $20

6. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
(not posted yet)

7. 10 - 10 - 10 - 10
(not posted yet)

Record
Total Record Since 8-21-12: 24-6 (80%)
Total Lines Cleared: 10
Total Profit: +$400
Total Bankroll: $7,400

[chilidog]

Wow; I remember those posts, with Asian executive, which were like the birth of the labby fade (for me at least)..BOL

I wonder what happened to asian executive anyway. I think it was him that had a little coke problem (if it wasn't him, then sorry AE!). He started the whole labby fade revolution, and is primarily why I had such a good past 2 years. I think this coming football season will be my best season to date.

[metsin7]

Discovering the labby fade at that time was discovering a treasure chest....everday...I hope to be collect the mans $$ with ya chili!! BOL .......and pretty sure AE def had a coke problem lol

I wonder what happened to asian executive anyway. I think it was him that had a little coke problem (if it wasn't him, then sorry AE!). He started the whole labby fade revolution, and is primarily why I had such a good past 2 years. I think this coming football season will be my best season to date.

[tigermaster]

Bad Day. 2-4 results

[DHB]

hey chillidog, couple of questions for ya.

i saw somewhere that you said labbys dont work in the long run.
so are you just flat betting these fades?

also if you could only fade one of wiz's comps which one would it be?

[sergiudec]

Love the fade! Keep an eye though for the website plays, he's been killing it during the summer, and turned cold recently (last 3 weeks). That might strike back but, all in all he's a great fade! BOL

[chilidog]

hey chillidog, couple of questions for ya.

i saw somewhere that you said labbys dont work in the long run.
so are you just flat betting these fades?

also if you could only fade one of wiz's comps which one would it be?

Labbys by themselves traditionally don't work very well. You need a good betting system to make them work. You couldn't run a labby with cappers that release more than 1 play per day. I definitely advise to use a lower than normal unit size with your labbys for the wiz fade, because he'll put out up to 7 picks per day.

If you can find a capper who puts out one bet per day, and either consistently wins more than 52.4% of his bets, or loses more than 47.6% of his bets, then a labby is perfect for you. The reason why I run a labby on the wiz fades, even though he puts out multiple per day, is because he releases one pick per site, so I treat them as different labby lines.

I won't deny it at all, Wiz is an excellent mlb totals capper from about March til end of July. I would definitely tail his mlb totals during those months. But with football and basketball, and bases in august/september, it's fade, fade, fade.

I can't rate any of wiz's comps; they're all bad.

[99Boxster]

Love the fade! Keep an eye though for the website plays, he's been killing it during the summer, and turned cold recently (last 3 weeks). That might strike back but, all in all he's a great fade! BOL

I won't deny it at all, Wiz is an excellent mlb totals capper from about March til end of July. I would definitely tail his mlb totals during those months. But with football and basketball, and bases in august/september, it's fade, fade, fade.

I can't rate any of wiz's comps; they're all bad.

We know that the Wiz has been a winner on MLB UNDERS. To be exact he is 89-55 (62%) since March 15, 2012. Over 5 months 62% is doable. We are willing to bet that during the final stretch of the MLB season the Wiz will revert back closer to 50%. He will be working on all sports and not committing as much time to the MLB totals. Losing from here on out should make all 7 labby fade profitable.

[99Boxster]

Thx again boxster...just wondering; how are you calculating your bet size? I thought with a 7K bankroll your labby line might be bigger...thx n BOL

Using a labby line you should take 1% of your starting bankroll and use that as the 4 numbers on your labby line. There are 7 comp sources. A starting bankroll of 7k is what I came up with.

Actually, with a labby line on each 7 comps you could do half of what this example is to be really safe ($5 - $5 - $5 - $5 starting out). You could also be betting $10.40 - $10.40 - $10.40 - $10.40 after each cleared line. I am going to show in the example $11 - $11 - $11 - $11 after the 3rd line is cleared ($120 profit). Then move on to $12 - $12 - $12 - $12 after the 5th line is cleared ($216 profit). etc. etc.

This is just the system I suggest. You can edit it to your liking. If this is too much for you, I'd suggest only using the Dom fade. He will normally have one play per day.

[metsin7]

Thx for the feedback boxster, and the fantastic new thread of which I'm eager to see slaughter the bookmaker... The irony of the situation for me is that the lines are actually too small, since my book has a minimum wager of $25...so I had to start my labby at 18 18 18 18 for all 7 lines, which is pretty aggressive with a 3k bankroll I suppose...

Using a labby line you should take 1% of your starting bankroll and use that as the 4 numbers on your labby line. There are 7 comp sources. A starting bankroll of 7k is what I came up with.

Actually, with a labby line on each 7 comps you could do half of what this example is to be really safe ($5 - $5 - $5 - $5 starting out). You could also be betting $10.40 - $10.40 - $10.40 - $10.40 after each cleared line. I am going to show in the example $11 - $11 - $11 - $11 after the 3rd line is cleared ($120 profit). Then move on to $12 - $12 - $12 - $12 after the 5th line is cleared ($216 profit). etc. etc.

This is just the system I suggest. You can edit it to your liking. If this is too much for you, I'd suggest only using the Dom fade. He will normally have one play per day.

[chilidog]

Thx for the feedback boxster, and the fantastic new thread of which I'm eager to see slaughter the bookmaker... The irony of the situation for me is that the lines are actually too small, since my book has a minimum wager of $25...so I had to start my labby at 18 18 18 18 for all 7 lines, which is pretty aggressive with a 3k bankroll I suppose...

Who are you betting with? 5dimes has a $5 minimum. I've heard really good things about BetIslands as well. Bookmaker is another good book, and they have low minimums as well.

With a $3k bankroll, I would be setting just 1 labby line at 30-30-30-30. Since you have a $25 minimum wager, then your minimum labby line would be 12.50-12.50-12.50-12.50. So with that, your recommended bankroll should be $8,750. You're definitely taking a risk by being underfunded, but what the hell, that's part of the rush of gambling.

[metsin7]

So far two unders from wizard (his original plays...fade is the OVER)

#1 Det/KC under 8
#2 Dodgers under 11

[metsin7]

Local onshore...Let's get it!!

Who are you betting with? 5dimes has a $5 minimum. I've heard really good things about BetIslands as well. Bookmaker is another good book, and they have low minimums as well.

With a $3k bankroll, I would be setting just 1 labby line at 30-30-30-30. Since you have a $25 minimum wager, then your minimum labby line would be 12.50-12.50-12.50-12.50. So with that, your recommended bankroll should be $8,750. You're definitely taking a risk by being underfunded, but what the hell, that's part of the rush of gambling.

[chilidog]

Wow, Mr. 80% Winners releases a different pick on his comp line than his site. His 800# comp line is truly entertaining to me; I wish he made daily videos like the other shucksters in his industry.

Don't forget that he released Rice +15 in college football on his 800# comp line a few days ago. I don't know if it'll re-appear, but I have it recorded on my spreadsheet. I'll make another post about it on Thursday.

[metsin7]

Mr 80% is doubling down with the dodger under, for pick #4 (valleysports)..

That 800 number really is priceless; I'm still in shock that it's genuine n not a gag

Wow, Mr. 80% Winners releases a different pick on his comp line than his site. His 800# comp line is truly entertaining to me; I wish he made daily videos like the other shucksters in his industry.

Don't forget that he released Rice +15 in college football on his 800# comp line a few days ago. I don't know if it'll re-appear, but I have it recorded on my spreadsheet. I'll make another post about it on Thursday.

[metsin7]

Hes 0-2 with accurate lines so far today; I'm seeing Det/KC @ 7.5 (wiz has 8), and LAD/COL @10.5 (wiz has 11)...juice is -120 so it could be on the way up..

[chilidog]

And he released the dodgers as his pick for cappingcontests. Now we're just waiting on cappersinfo and bestfreepicks. I doubt that he'll release an email comp today; if it hasn't been sent by now, I can't remember a time that he's sent one in the afternoon.

[Meega]

I haven't seen wiz release an accurate line for a baseball total this entire season, lol

[metsin7]

#7 Atlanta -145 (Best free picks)

[chilidog]

Anybody ever talk to the Wiz on the phone? I think Asian Executive was teh only one that actually posted about it. I've talked to the Wiz plenty of times, he's a funny guy that loves to party all night. If he'd only rate his plays, I'd most definitely subscribe again. But when he just gives a list of plays for the night, with no units or ratings on them, it's impossible to group those into a profitable fade. Damn Joe, get it together!