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  • Hurls
    SBR MVP
    • 12-17-11
    • 3477

    #1
    Indian Cowboy 2/16
    Santa Clara +14
    Over 189 Clippers/Trailblazers
    Over 5.5 Buffalo/Philly

    comp: UL Lafayette +10
  • Mr. NiceGuy
    SBR Sharp
    • 11-30-11
    • 254

    #2
    Faders go get em! Best of luck make sure to keep your thread for at least thirty days so we can see all your profits.
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    • Hurls
      SBR MVP
      • 12-17-11
      • 3477

      #3
      I would not say fading is a great idea but at this moment neither is following.
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      • Mr. NiceGuy
        SBR Sharp
        • 11-30-11
        • 254

        #4
        I agree, most know there are only two great fades that are consistent, I do love when people start these fade the cowboy threads because it shuts them up after a week at the most. That sheepdog is just annoying and needs put down! I only play his CBB so say what you will.
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        • Hurls
          SBR MVP
          • 12-17-11
          • 3477

          #5
          I dont even fade the Lang or Quinn or follow, I just am not into the whole fading thing, to each his own though. I just dont know why everyone gets so defensive when someone does start the Fade IC thread. Most times it is just people that are trying to get other riled up or just want the controversy. If he is the capper that most believe he is and defend him fiercly in that regard than the faders will learn their own lesson by loosing money. I just say let them do their thing if they fade they fade and we will see what happens. I just want some capper to go on a run here so I can make some more money, in the last two weeks I dont think I have had two winning days in a row and that blows.
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          • seanrabi09
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-07-12
            • 267

            #6
            agreed - I don't like to fade either........ If someone is cold just dont follow them. But you couldn't pay me to follow IC, people act like that guy is a GOD because he had one hot stretch in CBB, but he was AWFUL before that and has been AWFUL since. He does occasionally go on a hot streak, when I would say jump on and play his picks until he loses, but overall the guy is a joke. And I love how many people on here talk about him like he is the best thing invented since the blow job!!!!
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            • uup115
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-28-11
              • 483

              #7
              Originally posted by seanrabi09
              agreed - I don't like to fade either........ If someone is cold just dont follow them. But you couldn't pay me to follow IC, people act like that guy is a GOD because he had one hot stretch in CBB, but he was AWFUL before that and has been AWFUL since. He does occasionally go on a hot streak, when I would say jump on and play his picks until he loses, but overall the guy is a joke. And I love how many people on here talk about him like he is the best thing invented since the blow job!!!!
              who do you think is consistently good?
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              • Hurls
                SBR MVP
                • 12-17-11
                • 3477

                #8
                I think when it comes down to it everyone has had luck with some cappers and think they are the best, and other times people hear someone is good so they jump on right when they go on a loosing streak and then they hate them with a passion. There is no way that everyone will ever agree on who the best is, who is or isnt a scammer, or who is just plain scum, everyone has had different experiences, some could have alterior motives who knows. I guess the part that I dont get is why everyone here on this forum is here to try to win money instead of always bitching at each other try to help each other out. I know it is just wishful thinking because human nature is to be happy when someone else fails and want to rub it in when they win. I am just as guilty of all of these things as anyone else, just sucks cause I think we are all here to win money(minus the shills they are here to scam our money).
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                • seanrabi09
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 02-07-12
                  • 267

                  #9
                  Right Now I think Jimmy Boyd is the best one going.........

                  Over the course of an entire year I have followed these guys for years, and their overall % of wins is always in the mid 60's

                  - Ness
                  - Big Al
                  - Oskeim Sports
                  - Al Demarco (I wouldnt touch anyone else on his site, but he is usually pretty solid)

                  THere are a few others I will follow when they get hot, but these are the most profitable over the long haul
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                  • seanrabi09
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 02-07-12
                    • 267

                    #10
                    The mistake people make is they are to quick to say someone is awful or someone is great. Every capper is going to go on a hot streak and then a cold streak, it is just the nature of the business. What seperates them are the ones who can make money over the long haul, that is how you have to look at it. To often I hear people rip cappers on this site because they had a couple losing days, or praise them as the 2nd coming if they hit 4 or 5 in a row. That is just not how this works
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                    • Hurls
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-17-11
                      • 3477

                      #11
                      Originally posted by seanrabi09
                      Right Now I think Jimmy Boyd is the best one going.........

                      Over the course of an entire year I have followed these guys for years, and their overall % of wins is always in the mid 60's

                      - Ness
                      - Big Al
                      - Oskeim Sports
                      - Al Demarco (I wouldnt touch anyone else on his site, but he is usually pretty solid)

                      THere are a few others I will follow when they get hot, but these are the most profitable over the long haul
                      Thats my point though I am sure there is plenty of people here that have horrible things to say about them. IC's records have been in the 60's for a while and last season, but you dont like him. I just think there is no way everyone wont argue. Thanks though I am going to start to really look into a lot of cappers now and see if it is better to just try to cap my own games I cant be any worse than a lot of these guys out there. Someone who guesses is probably a lot better than a lot of cappers.
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                      • bodyforlife
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 02-22-11
                        • 66

                        #12
                        I think if you're going to fade anyone, you should do so consistently. Most people that fade Lang have done alright. The problem with fading sporadically is you will typically miss out on the start of a cold streak, and then by the time you start going against the capper, things flip and you lose on the back end. Similar to the craps player that is losing on the "pass" line and then gets whipsawed when he bets "don't pass". My biggest issue with IC is that I have never seen a capper that can be so hot and then go so cold. It's like one extreme or the other (never seems to be in between). You really have to have a lot of fortitude to hang in there when he goes cold (but are generally rewarded if you do). It's like the people on the stock market that just can't handle any more losses and then capitulate (only to miss out on the run up).
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                        • kgindy
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-19-10
                          • 590

                          #13
                          why does he play o/u in hockey instead of ml?
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                          • uup115
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 09-28-11
                            • 483

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kgindy
                            why does he play o/u in hockey instead of ml?
                            does both, i think Doc requires him to have a hockey play no matter good or bad.
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                            • LightMyFire
                              Restricted User
                              • 01-29-12
                              • 108

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr. NiceGuy
                              I agree, most know there are only two great fades that are consistent, I do love when people start these fade the cowboy threads because it shuts them up after a week at the most. That sheepdog is just annoying and needs put down! I only play his CBB so say what you will.
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                              • Hurls
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-17-11
                                • 3477

                                #16
                                Originally posted by LightMyFire
                                are you who he was referring to as the sheepdog? I didnt understand but since you responded is that what you think he means?
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                                • hallandale
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-19-11
                                  • 2714

                                  #17
                                  Why does he play hockey at all he's a 50% at best but i think it's doc's idea to make money
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                                  • LightMyFire
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-29-12
                                    • 108

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Hurls
                                    are you who he was referring to as the sheepdog? I didnt understand but since you responded is that what you think he means?
                                    I know that's what he means. Very clear from previous posts.
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                                    • Hurls
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-17-11
                                      • 3477

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by hallandale
                                      Why does he play hockey at all he's a 50% at best but i think it's doc's idea to make money
                                      he has to pick a play of the major sports everyday they have a game(minus all-star games). This is what is must be because I have never seen him miss a day or pass on a sport when there is a crappy card. If he doesnt then Docs cant collects $$ on the daily sport package.
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                                      • Hurls
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-17-11
                                        • 3477

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by LightMyFire
                                        I know that's what he means. Very clear from previous posts.
                                        Oh ok I didnt see any other posts other than this.
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                                        • hipster
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-28-10
                                          • 807

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by seanrabi09
                                          Right Now I think Jimmy Boyd is the best one going.........

                                          Over the course of an entire year I have followed these guys for years, and their overall % of wins is always in the mid 60's

                                          - Ness
                                          - Big Al
                                          - Oskeim Sports
                                          - Al Demarco (I wouldnt touch anyone else on his site, but he is usually pretty solid)

                                          THere are a few others I will follow when they get hot, but these are the most profitable over the long haul
                                          Let me make sure I am reading this correctly.

                                          Are u saying that over the course of an entire year, ness, big al, etc, are always in the mid 60%'s in overall percentages?

                                          As in, if you follow these cappers, they will hit, let's say 63%, for the course of the year?
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                                          • reddevil84
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 08-05-10
                                            • 174

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Hurls
                                            he has to pick a play of the major sports everyday they have a game(minus all-star games). This is what is must be because I have never seen him miss a day or pass on a sport when there is a crappy card. If he doesnt then Docs cant collects $$ on the daily sport package.
                                            I agree with you on that (he recently picked a NHL game when it was the only game of the day)

                                            What I find even stranger is that he NEVER picks 2 paid picks on a same sport the same day... I know IC wants to be very selective and that is part of its strategy but I can hardly believe he cannot see 2 or 3 games with good value on a big CBB Saturday card. Any thoughts about that ? is it IC or Docs decision ?
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                                            • Hurls
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-17-11
                                              • 3477

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by reddevil84
                                              I agree with you on that (he recently picked a NHL game when it was the only game of the day)

                                              What I find even stranger is that he NEVER picks 2 paid picks on a same sport the same day... I know IC wants to be very selective and that is part of its strategy but I can hardly believe he cannot see 2 or 3 games with good value on a big CBB Saturday card. Any thoughts about that ? is it IC or Docs decision ?
                                              I couldnt say for sure but I would think that it all comes down to selling the picks, if he finds value in say 3 cbb picks but doesnt pick a NHL or NBA it is a lot harder to sell those picks seperatly. Also people that buy whole season packages are expecting a pick in the sport they purchased and would prob want some sort of refund or credit if he doesnt make pick that day. If he picks more of one sport than another people would only buy that package because it would be the most worth it. Once again this all speculation but it makes sense to me.
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                                              • skyscrapers
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-02-11
                                                • 6168

                                                #24
                                                I believe this is only IC's personal preference to must play 1 game per day per sport. Doc's other cappers for instance Ferringo [whom I paid for his plays previously] sometimes don't have a play for a certain sport on that day if he doesn't see anything he likes.
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                                                • Hurls
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-17-11
                                                  • 3477

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by skyscrapers
                                                  I believe this is only IC's personal preference to must play 1 game per day per sport. Doc's other cappers for instance Ferringo [whom I paid for his plays previously] sometimes don't have a play for a certain sport on that day if he doesn't see anything he likes.
                                                  you dont think that they are treated different I am sure IC has more subscribers than Ferringo? Anyways that would make me trust his plays less because there are days where there is only three games and all of them are very hard to find value in, so you think he forces himself?
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                                                  • uup115
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 09-28-11
                                                    • 483

                                                    #26
                                                    There is a reason...and it is not just a coincidence that there is always just 1 play every day for every major sport...because of this process there is great value lost and a great amount of unnecessary risk...he should rethink his objectives, unless it is to make money before winning money.
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                                                    • MeatWad
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-18-12
                                                      • 1572

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by uup115
                                                      There is a reason...and it is not just a coincidence that there is always just 1 play every day for every major sport...because of this process there is great value lost and a great amount of unnecessary risk...he should rethink his objectives, unless it is to make money before winning money.
                                                      I agree with this. On average he has to be losing tons of value on big cards, and pushing marginal betting spots on other cards. I think his output would improve if his system of 1 pick daily per sport wasn't soo constrictive. That said, he is one of the very last people in these threads who I would fade.
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                                                      • CGBatch
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 11-25-11
                                                        • 758

                                                        #28
                                                        Sorry I haven't posted in a while. Updated as of after last nights game.

                                                        NBA 2011-2012 Season Record
                                                        7*: 1-0 (100%)
                                                        6*: 3-0 (100%)
                                                        5*: 3-2 (60%)
                                                        4*: 21-22 (49%)
                                                        -------------------------------
                                                        Total: 28-24 +26 Units (54%), +$1620
                                                        Last 5: W-L-W-W-L
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                                                        • Mr. NiceGuy
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 11-30-11
                                                          • 254

                                                          #29
                                                          Its early but the faders aren't looking so GOOD!
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                                                          • Hurls
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-17-11
                                                            • 3477

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Mr. NiceGuy
                                                            Its early but the faders aren't looking so GOOD!
                                                            please, please dont jinx it not that jinxes exist but dont only because if there is no more scoring in this game it will never stopped being talked about by faders.
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                                                            • Mr. NiceGuy
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 11-30-11
                                                              • 254

                                                              #31
                                                              Yesa Masta!
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                                                              • Hurls
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-17-11
                                                                • 3477

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Mr. NiceGuy
                                                                Yesa Masta!
                                                                cut it out I wasnt saying it like that
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                                                                • Hurls
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-17-11
                                                                  • 3477

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hockey cashes early for once instead of loosing early on an under. I will be honest though I didnt bet this pick cause of him another capper I like had it, if it was only IC i wouldnt have played it.
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                                                                  • BreakdaBank
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-14-12
                                                                    • 210

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Seanrabi is a shill, ignore him
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                                                                    • peppermillrick
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-20-10
                                                                      • 2963

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by seanrabi09
                                                                      Right Now I think Jimmy Boyd is the best one going.........

                                                                      Over the course of an entire year I have followed these guys for years, and their overall % of wins is always in the mid 60's

                                                                      - Ness
                                                                      - Big Al
                                                                      - Oskeim Sports
                                                                      - Al Demarco (I wouldnt touch anyone else on his site, but he is usually pretty solid)

                                                                      THere are a few others I will follow when they get hot, but these are the most profitable over the long haul
                                                                      Einstein was right! There are multiple universes.
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