how do i know life is worth 'it'

[GoIrish682]

i don't posses this 'love of life' i hear is so rampant.

am i crazy, depressed, a realist?

[mikejamm]

Everyday above ground is a good one bro! And if you live or were born free here in America, consider it winning the lottery of freedom. You could've ended up in one of many shit hole parts of the world. All you have to do is turn on the news to know how lucky we are.

[chilidog]

Do you know what the greatest thing in life is that you should thankful for?

You woke up today.

[LordVodka]

You're a realist. Life is an overrated thing. The greatest minds of all time thought that life sucked.

[BuckeyeT]

When you look in the paper in the morning at the death notices and do NOT see your name..........

Its a good day!!!

[chilidog]

You're a realist. Life is an overrated thing. The greatest minds of all time thought that life sucked.

I do concur. For the most part, life does suck. Sure, it is sprinkled with some moments that bring us great joy, but those long lengths of time between those great moments? They are just boring, and I completely agree that life is very much so overrated. But I know this, and I completely accept it. I don't need to fool myself with this notion that I need to be a good boy so that I get to spend eternity worshiping a deity. I am aware that life just ends when I take my final breath and my heart takes its' last beat. Just as I have no memory of my life before I was born, I don't expect to have a memory of this life when I die. Until that point in time, I will enjoy life as much as I can, doing it the way that I want to.

Pantera said it best in 'War Nerve': Fukk the world for all it's worth, every inch of planet earth

[acarmelo1]

If you need to ask that question, then you do not deserve to be alive.

[chilidog]

If you need to ask that question, then you do not deserve to be alive.

Really?? So, you have never asked yourself "What's the purpose of life? Why am I here?"? There is nothing wrong with questioning anything in this life. It is one of the rather important things that set us apart from other animals - we are self-aware, and are able to use our intelligence to question such things.

[Squareguy]

Educate yourself and do something that is fulfilling to you.

Travelling, hobbies, people etc.

[chilidog]

Educate yourself and do something that is fulfilling to you.

Travelling, hobbies, people etc.

What if one has already visited all the continents, has plenty of friends, and has several hobbies, yet still finds life rather lacking?

[PanamaBrad]

Need to look for "hope", find that and travel more.

[Squareguy]

What if one has already visited all the continents, has plenty of friends, and has several hobbies, yet still finds life rather lacking?

I would suggest an exercise routine for at least 6 months, and if that doesn't give you a refreshing feeling, then look into anti-depressants.

Err..and if it's not an issue of being depressed...then I've always been rather fond of the quote "If you're bored, you're boring"

I have been in a rut before and I went out and did something crazy. Anything that will give you a rush.

[chilidog]

I would suggest an exercise routine for at least 6 months, and if that doesn't give you a refreshing feeling, then look into anti-depressants.

So your solution is to do drugs?

[Fischnasty]

its not worth it. salud.

[chilidog]

its not worth it. salud.

Remember the Alamo.

[Squareguy]

So your solution is to do drugs?

Read the edited version.

First solution would be exercise. It releases endorphins and generally gives you more energy and a higher self-efficacy.

I'm not totally against drugs, but they are entirely over prescribed by doctors. People see pills as a quick fix to something they could have easily prevented. They all want to put in the least amount of effort and get the maximum return.

I've used anti-depressants in the past myself, but I realized that I needed to be strong on my own, so I threw them out. (Plus I couldn't get off during sex, talk about a crappy side effect. )

[JoeVig]

There's bugger all down here on earth.

[BigSpoon]

i don't posses this 'love of life' i hear is so rampant.

am i crazy, depressed, a realist?

You are not crazy but probably a mix of the latter two.

[doublej95]

i don't posses this 'love of life' i hear is so rampant.

am i crazy, depressed, a realist?

the only way to find out is have a near death experience and go from there.

[JW Cash]

Everyday above ground is a good one bro! And if you live and were born free here in America, consider it winning the lottery of freedom. You could've ended up in one of many shit hole parts of the world. All you have to do is turn on the news to know how lucky we are.

Born Free in Here in America...


This freakin country sucks...


The politicians can cram their anti-gambling bs up their ass.....

[JW Cash]

I do concur. For the most part, life does suck. Sure, it is sprinkled with some moments that bring us great joy, but those long lengths of time between those great moments? They are just boring, and I completely agree that life is very much so overrated. But I know this, and I completely accept it. I don't need to fool myself with this notion that I need to be a good boy so that I get to spend eternity worshiping a deity. I am aware that life just ends when I take my final breath and my heart takes its' last beat. Just as I have no memory of my life before I was born, I don't expect to have a memory of this life when I die. Until that point in time, I will enjoy life as much as I can, doing it the way that I want to.

Pantera said it best in 'War Nerve': Fukk the world for all it's worth, every inch of planet earth

Well said chili.........I also agree that life is overrated....

I had always said that NOTHING in this world is IMPORTANT.....

cause in the end . it ALL goes away.......

[Masu485]

Here's the truth.

You are just a slave to your biological body and to biology in general.

What the hell causes this inherent 'will to survive'? What is biology's ultimate motive? What is the point of trying to live as long as possible and then dying?

Thank about it, everything we are supposed do in our lives is just there to help us live longer. We are slaves to this biological imperative. Studying in school and getting a good job is just to help us find a more suitable mate, which in the end we are supposed to breed with to prolong the genetic line. Even the relationships we have with spouses and friends are just there to prolong our life (as studies show people with more contacts live longer).

I really don't think there is a mind-body connection. I believe the body is a bunch of cells on it's own, and the mind/soul is separate. It is given power to a certain extent to control the body, but ultimately, the body plays a larger role. The idea of pain/pleasure is present because of the body. Happiness/saddness is also just an interpretation of the body. The mind/soul cannot interpret any of this. Your body is doing thousands of functions right now you have not authorized, and each is just an action to help itself stay alive.

I see animals, insects etc... Everything they do is for survival. Just like humans. But in animals, it's easier to question it. Why are they acting this way, why is survival so important to them? Just to pass on their genes? What does this accomplish ultimately?

For humans, we can say that it's best to live longer because we'll experience more happy moments, but this also is not true. There is no true happiness except happiness of the mind. All the happiness you feel is just dopamine and serotonin. All the sadness is from GABA and serotonin imbalances. That's it and that's all!

The happiness you feel from winning a trophy is the same happiness you feel when you take 'feel good' pills. Same brain centers activate, cocaine activates the same centers as when you are happy about being in love. It's all the same happiness, whether from a pill or experiences. The latter is generally more accepted only because it is less dangerous, but the point is it's all the same false happiness. Just the same chemicals in your brain.

Your body is too much in control of you. The will to live is present in everyone just because of biology, as it is in animals. Thinking about the WHY, you realize it's just because your body wants you to live, not your mind/soul, and that the mind is just enclosed in this shell to be able to interact with the outside world. Your body isn't YOU.

Knowing this, you should have no fear of dying.

EDIT: Also wanted to add that this 'life' you experience isn't even your own. Your soul is unique, but everything else, your body, brain, thoughts, are all based on genetics and socialization. Even the daily experiences you have are just 'sets' which you have been socialized to follow. Even subsets such as having small conversations, or saying things at certain times. None of it is truly you, you are just a complete shell for your soul.

[acarmelo1]

Really?? So, you have never asked yourself "What's the purpose of life? Why am I here?"? There is nothing wrong with questioning anything in this life. It is one of the rather important things that set us apart from other animals - we are self-aware, and are able to use our intelligence to question such things.

I have never asked myself why do I live, and what is life.

I just enjoy myself to the fullest in whatever activity is that I do.

Either it is on the workplace , at college or when I am having sex.

Just enjoy life men.

Do think so much about this stuff.

It there a God?
Is there not a God?

This questions and dilemas are stupid and create war and chaos.

Just live peacefully.

You only have to look at the good parts, why lose time crying about the bad parts.

[JW Cash]

Here's the truth.

You are just a slave to your biological body and to biology in general.

What the hell causes this inherent 'will to survive'? What is biology's ultimate motive? What is the point of trying to live as long as possible and then dying?

Thank about it, everything we are supposed do in our lives is just there to help us live longer. We are slaves to this biological imperative. Studying in school and getting a good job is just to help us find a more suitable mate, which in the end we are supposed to breed with to prolong the genetic line. Even the relationships we have with spouses and friends are just there to prolong our life (as studies show people with more contacts live longer).

I really don't think there is a mind-body connection. I believe the body is a bunch of cells on it's own, and the mind/soul is separate. It is given power to a certain extent to control the body, but ultimately, the body plays a larger role. The idea of pain/pleasure is present because of the body. Happiness/saddness is also just an interpretation of the body. The mind/soul cannot interpret any of this. Your body is doing thousands of functions right now you have not authorized, and each is just an action to help itself stay alive.

I see animals, insects etc... Everything they do is for survival. Just like humans. But in animals, it's easier to question it. Why are they acting this way, why is survival so important to them? Just to pass on their genes? What does this accomplish ultimately?

For humans, we can say that it's best to live longer because we'll experience more happy moments, but this also is not true. There is no true happiness except happiness of the mind. All the happiness you feel is just dopamine and serotonin. All the sadness is from GABA and serotonin imbalances. That's it and that's all!

The happiness you feel from winning a trophy is the same happiness you feel when you take 'feel good' pills. Same brain centers activate, cocaine activates the same centers as when you are happy about being in love. It's all the same happiness, whether from a pill or experiences. The latter is generally more accepted only because it is less dangerous, but the point is it's all the same false happiness. Just the same chemicals in your brain.

Your body is too much in control of you. The will to live is present in everyone just because of biology, as it is in animals. Thinking about the WHY, you realize it's just because your body wants you to live, not your mind/soul, and that the mind is just enclosed in this shell to be able to interact with the outside world. Your body isn't YOU.

Knowing this, you should have no fear of dying.

...no fear of dying OR taking your own life, ala Shrink.....

[TRE1968]

the good ole saloon always entertaining

[Mistongo]

Masu485 that is a great post. I don't agree with you that the happiness from pills and the happiness from experiences is the same, at least in my experience.

[emoney]

Live in the moment and try to enjoy it, don't look to far ahead or behind.

[daneblazer]

When you can't find anything to laugh at, it's not worth it anymore

[MarkDee]

Pick up a bunch of bad habit's
Gambling
Alcohol
Drug's
Sex
Porn
ect...
Give's you something to look forward to

[The Madcap]

You're a realist. Life is an overrated thing. The greatest minds of all time thought that life sucked.

Yeah, because they were geeks who couldn't get laid.

[The Madcap]

i don't posses this 'love of life' i hear is so rampant.

am i crazy, depressed, a realist?

Life is what you make of it. If you think there's some grand mystery to be solved, there's not. (Unless you believe in an afterlife and everlasting salvation.)

A good life is about three things and three things only: Friends, Family, and Fukking. Anybody who tells you otherwise is selling you something or has failed to find true friends, hates their family, or can't get laid. And those folks need some sort of bullshit Quixotian quest to justify their existence. Which is why the most miserable and lonely people in the world are the ones generally trying to save it. (and wrecking it as a result)

The educated man in his misery will deride ignorance as bliss, while the wise man in his joy lives blissfully ignorant.

In this country, some of the poorest and most uneducated people around are the happiest. They are happy because they spend their free time laughing it up, hanging out with friends and family. The people who aren't happy in this country are those who think they need more--fancier clothes, bigger televisions, bigger houses, and will do anything to get those things so as to fill the giant hole in their hearts which are usually filled with love and friendship. These friendless toolbags are the turds in the punchbowl---the oblivious busy-body douchebags who wreck shit with their good intentions and the soulless vicious criminals who wreck shit with their bad ones.

You are obviously in a rut right now. You know how you get out of a rut? Small steps that lead to bigger ones.

Start doing some push-ups everyday. As many as you can do. If you can only do 5-10, only do five or ten. But push yourself. Everyday. Make yourself do it. It's 30 seconds of your life. After a while you will want to start doing more. And more. And more. Pretty soon that 30 seconds will turn into 5-10 minutes of exercise. And then 30. And then an hour.

You're going to see results and you're going to like it. Even if they come slow. And then you want more dramatic improvement. So you stop eating junk food. Stop drinking so much. You will feel stronger and more alive. You will have greater confidence and courage. You will start wanting to improve other areas of your life. You will read more. Maybe take up a musical instrument. In the months that follow you will find you are turning into one of the more interesting people to talk to at parties and the bar. Women will take notice. And you will notice them with more fervor than you had in your prior indolence. And that's when you'll bring them home, and take them on the kitchen floor. And that'll be the moment you realize you love your friends, you love your family, you love fukking, and you love life.

[JW Cash]

Here's the truth.

You are just a slave to your biological body and to biology in general.

What the hell causes this inherent 'will to survive'? What is biology's ultimate motive? What is the point of trying to live as long as possible and then dying?

Thank about it, everything we are supposed do in our lives is just there to help us live longer. We are slaves to this biological imperative. Studying in school and getting a good job is just to help us find a more suitable mate, which in the end we are supposed to breed with to prolong the genetic line. Even the relationships we have with spouses and friends are just there to prolong our life (as studies show people with more contacts live longer).

I really don't think there is a mind-body connection. I believe the body is a bunch of cells on it's own, and the mind/soul is separate. It is given power to a certain extent to control the body, but ultimately, the body plays a larger role. The idea of pain/pleasure is present because of the body. Happiness/saddness is also just an interpretation of the body. The mind/soul cannot interpret any of this. Your body is doing thousands of functions right now you have not authorized, and each is just an action to help itself stay alive.

I see animals, insects etc... Everything they do is for survival. Just like humans. But in animals, it's easier to question it. Why are they acting this way, why is survival so important to them? Just to pass on their genes? What does this accomplish ultimately?

For humans, we can say that it's best to live longer because we'll experience more happy moments, but this also is not true. There is no true happiness except happiness of the mind. All the happiness you feel is just dopamine and serotonin. All the sadness is from GABA and serotonin imbalances. That's it and that's all!

The happiness you feel from winning a trophy is the same happiness you feel when you take 'feel good' pills. Same brain centers activate, cocaine activates the same centers as when you are happy about being in love. It's all the same happiness, whether from a pill or experiences. The latter is generally more accepted only because it is less dangerous, but the point is it's all the same false happiness. Just the same chemicals in your brain.

Your body is too much in control of you. The will to live is present in everyone just because of biology, as it is in animals. Thinking about the WHY, you realize it's just because your body wants you to live, not your mind/soul, and that the mind is just enclosed in this shell to be able to interact with the outside world. Your body isn't YOU.

Knowing this, you should have no fear of dying.

EDIT: Also wanted to add that this 'life' you experience isn't even your own. Your soul is unique, but everything else, your body, brain, thoughts, are all based on genetics and socialization. Even the daily experiences you have are just 'sets' which you have been socialized to follow. Even subsets such as having small conversations, or saying things at certain times. None of it is truly you, you are just a complete shell for your soul.

That is some DAMN good stuff Masu......

[JW Cash]

Life is what you make of it. If you think there's some grand mystery to be solved, there's not. (Unless you believe in an afterlife and everlasting salvation.)

A good life is about three things and three things only: Friends, Family, and Fukking. Anybody who tells you otherwise is selling you something or has failed to find true friends, hates their family, or can't get laid. And those folks need some sort of bullshit Quixotian quest to justify their existence. Which is why the most miserable and lonely people in the world are the ones generally trying to save it. (and wrecking it as a result)

The educated man in his misery will deride ignorance as bliss, while the wise man in his joy lives blissfully ignorant.

In this country, some of the poorest and most uneducated people around are the happiest. They are happy because they spend their free time laughing it up, hanging out with friends and family. The people who aren't happy in this country are those who think they need more--fancier clothes, bigger televisions, bigger houses, and will do anything to get those things so as to fill the giant hole in their hearts which are usually filled with love and friendship. These friendless toolbags are the turds in the punchbowl---the oblivious busy-body douchebags who wreck shit with their good intentions and the soulless vicious criminals who wreck shit with their bad ones.

You are obviously in a rut right now. You know how you get out of a rut? Small steps that lead to bigger ones.

Start doing some push-ups everyday. As many as you can do. If you can only do 5-10, only do five or ten. But push yourself. Everyday. Make yourself do it. It's 30 seconds of your life. After a while you will want to start doing more. And more. And more. Pretty soon that 30 seconds will turn into 5-10 minutes of exercise. And then 30. And then an hour.

You're going to see results and you're going to like it. Even if they come slow. And then you want more dramatic improvement. So you stop eating junk food. Stop drinking so much. You will feel stronger and more alive. You will have greater confidence and courage. You will start wanting to improve other areas of your life. You will read more. Maybe take up a musical instrument. In the months that follow you will find you are turning into one of the more interesting people to talk to at parties and the bar. Women will take notice. And you will notice them with more fervor than you had in your prior indolence. And that's when you'll bring them home, and take them on the kitchen floor. And that'll be the moment you realize you love your friends, you love your family, you love fukking, and you love life.

how meaningful are your friends, family , and fukkin when you are in your
grave.......

Of course , they mean NOTHING...just momentary experiences that are totally
erased when you take your final breath......

Just look at history and see the magnitude of man's inhumanity to man...and
you will realize just how inconsequential this " life " is....

[bachngocduong]

i don't posses this 'love of life' i hear is so rampant.

am i crazy, depressed, a realist?

hell know

[geist]

i don't posses this 'love of life' i hear is so rampant.

am i crazy, depressed, a realist?

GoIrish, you are not alone in that school of thought. It's a delusional fallacy, I tell you. All the suffering and anguish many go through to appease the few fortunate ones and then them having the galls to say life is great while looking the other way.