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    1 set high intensity training is the best method for building muscle

    Once muscular growth has been stimulated, it can't be stimulated anymore than what it is. Anymore than the exact precise amount is overtraining. There is no such thing as stimulating the muscles further by doing a 2nd set after doing one set to failure. The stimulus responsible for increasing size and strength is the last rep of a set carried to failure, and that last rep has to be progressive resistance or overload. Aka , one more rep than your previous best or more weight, or more time under tension. A 2nd, 3rd set or more does absolutely nothing but go into your recovery ability causing you not to gain as much muscle or strength that you could have. Mr Olympia dorian yates, 1st mr olympia larry scott, 4 certification programsmt the editor of ironman magazine, the inventor of nautilus and medex and cybex all agree with what i posted. Either growth is stimulated or it isn't.
    For the dumb folk that are stubborn or have been brainwashed into believing something else i will explain more.

    Think of your muscles as dirt on the ground and building muscle as the mountain on top of the dirt.
    You do a set and a hole is dug into the dirt, aka the muscle.

    Example: you do a set of standing barbell curls to failure where you can't do another rep. You have damaged, aka , contracted muscle cells.
    This is like digging a hole into the ground.
    Now by doing a 2nd set or 3rd and so on, all your doing is making the whole deeper and deeper. You do not want to make the whole deeper. By doing the 1 set to failure in the curl you have stimulated growth. Not too many people know , but the exact same chemicals in the body that are used for recovery are the exact same chemicals used for muscular growth.
    By doing a 2nd or 3rd set or more after you have done 1 set to failure all your doing is digger a deeper hole , now your body has to use up your resources that would be used for muscular growth. They now have to be used for recovery when they could of been used for growth.
    The very 1st thing the body needs to do to grow is to recover. The muscle cannot gain muscle or strength until it has recovered. Aka filling up the hole that was dug. After the hole is filled up, if growth was stimulated, the body then overcompensates and builds dirt on top of the ground, aka, making your muscles bigger.
    A set you can normaly perform 10 reps with and for some reason you only did 1 rep, would you ever grow or gain strength? No. Why? Because the intensity of effort on that rep is low and your muscles are not fatigued and have no reason to expand beyond its existing compacity.
    If you only did 7 or 8 or 9 reps you still would not grow because your body knows it can do 10 reps . After each rep you do the body contracts more and more muscle cells until it can no longer do another rep. If you do 10 reps your body still would not grow because you can curl the weight ten times.
    In order to grow you have to do what you haven't done before and that is an 11th rep . Not 2 or 3 or 4 sets, but 1 set and one set to failure where you can't do another rep and you do that 11th rep.
    This goes for all exercises. If you can incline dumbell press 80 pound dumbells for 5 reps, the next workout you either have to do
    1. go up in weight or
    2. Do the 80 pound dumbells for 6 reps , or more.
    No growth can be stimulated by doing a 2nd set or 3rd, or 4th or 5th or 6th set. Once growth has been stimulated by doing that 11 rep on the curl or doing that 6th rep in the dumbell press. No 2nd set is needed or should be even desired. Any more sets goes into your recovery ability and is overtraining.
    This is why people can lift weights for years or everybody can do a routine and people can see various results.
    They all stimulated growth if they went up in weight or reps, but people are seeing different results only because some people can tolerate more exercise or have different recovery abilities. The fact that you feel like you can do more doesn't mean you should do more and it shouldn't.

    I said it earlier in this post and I'll say it again. THE ONE AND ONLY STIMULUS RESPONSIBLE FOR INCREASING SIZE AND STRENGTH IS THE LAST REP OF A SET CARRIED TO FAILURE AS LONG AS PROGRESSIVE RESISTANCE OR PROGRESSIVE OVERLOAD IS APPLIED. ALL THE OTHER REPS OF A SET DO NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT WARMUP REPS UNTIL YOU DO YOUR LAST REP WHERE GROWTH CAN BE STIMULATED.

    The body was not meant to lift weights. God did not itend for the body to be used for weightlifting. This is only done for various reasons, like getting better at sports, wanting to big build bigger or stronger muscles for whatever your own personal reasons are.
    The body has week links when lifting. Like when doing bench presses. The front deltoids and triceps are being worked much more then the chest. Or when doing pulldowns the biceps and shoulders are being worked. This is why people complain when lifting that they feel nothing in a certain area they think they are working.
    This is why you should use great form and slow your repititions down so you can get a muscular contraction in the muscle group you are training. Many times it is also necessary to pre exhaust the muscle to remove the week links.
    Example: When doing pulldowns you 1st need to warmup your muscles. Do a light set of pulldowns for a few reps, not to failure with a light weight, then do a medium set, aka a slightly heavier set not to failure .
    Then go over to the pullover machine and do 1 set to failure in the pullover or in the dumbell pullover with a weight you can do for around 10 reps.
    As soon as you cannot do another rep. Walk over to the pulldown and do 1 set to failure in the pulldown. For the very 1st time in your life you may of experienced something you have felt before. The feeling of having to stop your set because you are getting a cramp in your lat or feel it so much in your lats you feel like they are going to explode. You have stimulated real muscle growth without having week links like the biceps and shoulders involved.
    No 2nd set is needed . A 2nd set would do nothing but go into your recovery ability causing you not to gain as much strength and muscles as your genetics allows.

    The proper way to train has been out for year right in people's faces for everyone to see for years but along the way people have tried to sabbotage it with other various workouts, beliefs, aka, like religious beliefs or economic beliefs to make you believe that something else is the truth, when in fact, the exact opposite may be true, and usually is.

    What about certification programs? Anyone can become a certified trainer. In fact you can become a certified trainer online in less than 3 hours. You purchase the program online. You then click the option that you have read the material and are ready to take the test. You then take the test online. You then get graded. 3 hours later you are a certified trainer. Now guess what. Did you know most cerification programs don't even really grade you? Why? Because they want your money. They are not going to flunk anyone for the most part because if they do , then they can't take your money and send you a certification certificate. Most certification programs are exactly alike with some modification so they don't copy other programs. This is how and why anyone can start a certification program. Its all about the money.
    So who certifies the cerifier? Who certifies them? The answer is noone. Anyone can be a certified trainer and anyone can start their own certification program. In fact if you wanted to start your own certification program tommorrow, you could and for very little cost.
    As an experiment, i stopped writing this and became a certified trainer again in less than 30 minutes. Not hard at all. There are several hundred certification programs and they all have one goal. Get you certified and take your money. Then out of the blue, you need to send more money in a year to remain certified. Did i lose training knowledge in that year that i have to send money to regain it?
    The moral is, most certification programs are crap , in fact horrendous just like most training programs people are on.
    Most certified trainers don't even know the basic fundementals of their field. This goes for alot of our leaders in various fields. The best trainer at your gym could be the strongest guy , but i doubt it, but could easily be someone that has never touched a weight. You don't gain knowlege by lifting weights. You gain it from learning by reading, and observing and having an open mind. Of course not many knowledgable people have never not touched a weight, but listening to someone with great genes, or on growth hormone or says listen to them because they are certified may not be the way to go either.
    This reminds me as a child when i never touched a weight and overheard someone recommend for someone to do 4 sets of 8 on a certain exercise. I was only 4 years old, but i remember asking why not 3 sets of 8 or 5 sets of 8 or 3 sets of 7 or 3 sets of 9.
    I never got an answer , except for a mean look. I doubt anyone can clearly answer this, with the exception of myself and a few other individuals. Being a genious that didnt talk much as a child that was known to be shy, such a response by me then was probaly too much for the gym trainer to handle.
    Congrats if you read all this. You may have finally learned something this year. This will be posted and has been posted on various forums. Even been offered a job at an online bodybuilding site because of it. Yes its true, im eating doritos as i write this. But we all have things to learn and our own weeknesses.
    Goal + plan + motivation is the key to success.



    If anyone really want to learn how to lift weights, learn something of value or to finally gain some real muscle, strength, or get in shape or better at there sport. How about contacting someone that will tell you the truth?
    Im already training over 400 people across the country online with near 100 percent success rate. All free, I"ll never charge anyone that needs help..
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    Join my yahoo group. Groups.yahoo.com/group/Heavy_Duty
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    interesting

    ...somebody really mean-mugged you for asking those questions when you were only 4? That's messed. I always try to avoid definitive statements about the human body, because we are each unique and it shows in the gazillions of different training theories, of which, many are legit and provide real results. For most people, who work out once in a while, to build muscle, you need to amp up your commitment, define your goals, adjust your nutrition, rest properly, and be consistent. For people that are looking to take it a step further, intensity is key and nutrition and rest are king...and it's important to realize that the best results will come after you have discovered how your body reacts to different kinds of stimuli. I'm one of the few guys that I know who does not cycle in bulking stages and cutting stages, but have slowly put on lean muscle mass by eating clean and taking in a few more calories than my body burns each day...part of this I believe is due to my genetics (Ukrainian/Irish and everyone in my family is on the shorter side and naturally built). I have a lot of friends that are ectomorphs, and they can't take the same level of beating week in and week out that I put myself through. I like to look good, but I enjoy functional strength and I incorporate a lot of power/ Olympic lifts and have even mixed in tire flipping, heavy rope training, and other non-traditional exercises. Every three months, I like to cycle in high volume training...20-25 reps and have seen some of my best results follow this cycle... my post is not to say that you are wrong, because 5 people could say something different and all 5 could be right, to some degree.

    ...enjoyed reading your post and am curious as to how your internet personal training business is doing? In college, I personal trained and was considered one of the better trainers, though my success rate with clients was around 60%...most people don't want to commit and have a hard time accepting that results aren't overnight. I have to say that I'm glad that chapter of my life is over...though, it's fun to work in a positive environment.

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    sorry..duplicate post...original below

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    interesting

    ...somebody really mean-mugged you for asking those questions when you were only 4? That's messed. I always try to avoid definitive statements about the human body, because we are each unique and it shows in the gazillions of different training theories, of which, many are legit and provide real results. For most people, who work out once in a while, to build muscle, you need to amp up your commitment, define your goals, adjust your nutrition, rest properly, and be consistent. For people that are looking to take it a step further, intensity is key and nutrition and rest are king...and it's important to realize that the best results will come after you have discovered how your body reacts to different kinds of stimuli. I'm one of the few guys that I know who does not cycle in bulking stages and cutting stages, but have slowly put on lean muscle mass by eating clean and taking in a few more calories than my body burns each day...part of this I believe is due to my genetics (Ukrainian/Irish and everyone in my family is on the shorter side and naturally built). I have a lot of friends that are ectomorphs, and they can't take the same level of beating week in and week out that I put myself through. I like to look good, but I enjoy functional strength and I incorporate a lot of power/ Olympic lifts and have even mixed in tire flipping, heavy rope training, and other non-traditional exercises. Every three months, I like to cycle in high volume training...20-25 reps and have seen some of my best results follow this cycle... my post is not to say that you are wrong, because 5 people could say something different and all 5 could be right, to some degree.

    ...enjoyed reading your post and am curious as to how your internet personal training business is doing? In college, I personal trained and was considered one of the better trainers, though my success rate with clients was around 60%...most people don't want to commit and have a hard time accepting that results aren't overnight. I have to say that I'm glad that chapter of my life is over...though, it's fun to work in a positive environment.

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    Ok. No more naked pics guys. Please.

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    best vid ive seen online and dorian agrees with what im saying.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25lLg2DxGM

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    Good stuff in here. Hiit is the way to go.

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    80 pounds may be a little much for someone starting out. Not be scared to start at 20 or 25 to start if thats enough to "feel the burn"

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    TT doesn't post pics of himself lifting course it wouldn't be at the gym be at Mcdonalds curling Big Macs. Come on kids enough with the talk anyone can copy and paste. Lets see it big man if not then shuuuuuuud up kid.

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    this reminds me my i gotta get jacked. might use ur idea

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    thanks for the info good stuff

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    But when you stop training, then you will get fat many.

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    fat only if u eat bad and i admit i eat bad. Don't practice what i preach in many area of my life. Skinny people will never get fat, i roll my eyes when i see someone that is 6 foot 170 and they think they are overweight

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    You're a big fat broke stiff

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    still doesn't take anything away from my knowledge.

    Doing a super slow hit training routine tommorrow. Warmup sets and one set total body routine.

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    bump

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    Stick to being a loser you fat fuk.

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    Warrior... I'm trying to figure out if your theory is true? But I must disagree because that's why 3 and 4 sets were made for a specific exercise. You can also conclude overtraining a muscle is bad! But what is considered overtraining? Some bodybuilders claim 9-12 sets is the maximum limit on one specific muscle group. The only way one set would generate quick growth... would be shooting yourself with GH. Because the chemical is constantly generating growth cells all over the body. Technically you wouldn't have to beat the muscle down ex. or break the muscle down. The GH in the system will automatically generate cells on top of cells on top of cells. Then your theory would be correct. But if GH isn't in the system... you would have to do it the old fashion way.

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    Where the **** is mayan to set these punks straight?

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    nowhere in the video does Yates say do only 1 high intensity set

    it makes no sense. Yes you exert most energy aftet that first set of a muscle group and you are weaker after that, but there is still room to exhaust further

    doing 3 sets like 10-8-6 and then a 4th set on heavy resistance negatives is fine, or incorporate forced negatives into 3rd set (controlled reps for first sets).

    Edit:

    You never clarified warm up sets, made it sound like just 1 pure set.

    Here he has doing 1-2 warm up sets with moderate strain and then a heavy one to failure, which seems good. I will do 2 sets that builds to the 3rd which is the most intense.

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    yes a warmup set, and then another low rep moderate heavier set and one set to failure.

    Back when i squatted 550 for 6 reps i did this

    2 warmup sets on the leg extension
    135 for 10 reps
    225 for 6 reps
    315 for 1 rep
    350 for 1 rep
    400 for 1 rep
    500 for 1 rep
    550 to failure

    If i did more reps with the 300 to 500 , i wouldn't of been able to do as many reps as i could with the 550

    If you can only lets say squat 225 for 5 reps
    then do empty bar for 10 reps
    100 for 5 or 6 reps
    135 for 1 or 2 reps
    185 for 1 or 2 reps
    225 to to failure

    The stronger you are the more warmup sets you need, the weaker you are, the less warmup sets you need

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    Yates is not the inventor of this type of training.Yates reached a period in his bodybuilding career were he became stagnate,he could no longer add any muscle to his frame.He did mega set to mega set with zero results.He decided to go a different route,into the picture comes a bodybuilder with a totally radical way of training,Mike Mentzer.Mentzer trained Yates and taught him the principles of ''Heavy Duty'' training.
    The training sessions were brutal and brief, no longer then 20 minutes.When Schwarzenegger witnessed one of these training sessions he stated "no one can train like that every day"".Schwarzenegger was dead on,because of the intensity they were brief and infrequent. Yates stayed the course and won many consecutive Mr Olympia titles, using this type of training.

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    LOL!!!!!!!! OVERTRAINING my ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS this is old school HIT is outdated IMO and has been modified by lifters of all sorts.

    And exactly what kind of body frame do you think should be doing HIT workouts? Because every frame can do it but their really is no point for a lot of people to do this type of training because they will benefit more gains from other workouts.


    This type of workout can and is beneficial for certain frames but lighter weight guys wont benefit from this , all that will happen is muscle fibers will strengthen and stretch out instead of your so cald pile of dirt effect. It seems like you just copy pasted this entire post.

    And what is all this nonsense about all these warm up sets. How many warm up sets do you need before you decide to count the real set? I have nothing wrong with warm up sets but your theory is counteracting itself because you do 2, 3, or 4 warm up sets before you decide to do an actual set. . I feel like if you say you only do one set until failure you should go right at it instead of doing these warm up sets because you want the lifter to dig a hole as you say so to dig that hole you shouldnt give your body a warm up you should tackle it instantly so your body goes into shock and you strain the muscle right away instead of giving it a chance to unfold


    But I dont specialize in HIT training I specialize in HIIT ( High Intensity Interval Training and Plyometric Explosion workouts ) so good advice i suppose

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    I think what it boils down to is ones own tolerance to exercise, everybody is different in this aspect.

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    eat well, do plenty of exercise, and take supplements.

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    ya machines are for pussys.

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    all u need

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    maybe modified, but its the theory , not the modification

    Its still all warmup sets and 1 set to failure

    Your body doesnt know if your using a machine or a dumbell or barbell by the way

    Plyometrics and speed training is a joke.

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    a warmup set and working set is not the same thing???

    key words warmup and working,, if you can read kid/

    Outdated?? lmao

    5 years from now you will say the scam p90x is outdated.

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    WHERE THE **** IS MAYAN I dont trust you ******* rookies for shit till I get his verdick.

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    CrossFit is the best workout for me. I'm as addicted to logging in for the WOD as I am to check SBR each day

    Just try not to get nailed on the inside of your knee with a kettle like I did last month....still bruised like a motherfukker

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    greatest mr olympia Ronnie Coleman was a volume guy... I'll trust him...

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    also a roided up guy, plus ronnie has stated recently like many former pros. If he started over he would of done less volume, more intensity, more days of rest.

    Steroids and gh help you train more often, not less often

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    Oh yeah dorian and metzer never did steroids...

    Dorian had a great back, that's the only thing that carried him...

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    i never said they didn't, but its also a fact that they took less. Even dorians peers know this and thats why they also decreased their volume through the years. Mentzer and yates have nothing to do with why i recommend hit training, nada

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