Pirates? WTF!

**stikymess** · 02-02-11, 12:32 PM

They generally hit slow moving undefend ships. Agree it wouldnt take much to end their nonsense. Could be great training experience for different groups.

**katstale** · 03-03-11, 12:11 PM

I am bumping this cause I am more convinced than before that "race" is playing a role in no one doing anything abt these scum. If these were "swedish" pirates or nazi skin head pirates these guys would have been wiped out and their villages burned to the ground.

Got to be some common sense somewhere abt this mess.

**pavyracer** · 03-03-11, 12:18 PM

We have a Coast Guard in the US and people and drugs are smuggled every day.

Now imagine a coast line like Somalia who is not patrolled by the Coast Guard. You have to use hundreds of planes and vessels stationed along the Somalian coast line which is vast to patrol the movement of every single boat.

**drunkenbeaver** · 03-03-11, 12:23 PM

Everything comes down to money. In this case, my guess is nobody is getting paid enough to stop it.

**RubberKettle** · 03-03-11, 12:25 PM

Was listening abut this today on NPR during my drive into work. They were saying its believed that the pirates have ties to Middle East business men and they plunder from India to Madagascar. If these things are true they must have some serious sea fairing boats, not just a few guys and an outboard motor.

I think a relatively simple way to end these clowns would be to set up decoys. Outfit some yachts with weaponry and crew them with a few military folks and send them out. Fire on any suspicious craft that approaches.

**Mr KLC** · 03-03-11, 12:32 PM

**C0nkette** · 03-03-11, 12:37 PM

^^RubberKettle you have it right. They have a benefactor for their plundered treasures.

**Flexin** · 03-03-11, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by katstale

I am bumping this cause I am more convinced than before that "race" is playing a role in no one doing anything abt these scum. If these were "swedish" pirates or nazi skin head pirates these guys would have been wiped out and their villages burned to the ground. Got to be some common sense somewhere abt this mess.

Has nothing to do with race. No they don't just blast them out of the water but they do some things. But like it has been said they go after big slow moving ships most of the time. The companies they work for don't allow them to be armed for the most part so they have fire hoses to defend themselves.

I read a story about a sail boat with an older couple in it sailing the world. I think they sailed past that area with another boat. When they seen the pirates coming one guy when below and came up with a rifle. He shot at them and chased them off.

The story is that other countries are fishing in their waters. This causes over fishing and hurts them. Because of this they have a hard time making a living. If this is the case it will take more than a month of blasting pirates to stop it.

Something has to be done but who is going to pay for it? I have seen a show that had the US Navy patrolling and stopping boats to see if they were pirates. Someone has to pay for it and from what I hear they country itself doesn't have the money or doesn't care enough to do it themselves.

James

**BGboothA** · 03-03-11, 01:11 PM

Personally, I have a couple of problems....mainly who are the idiots sailing threw Somolian waters with a family....

**Roy Halladay** · 03-03-11, 01:18 PM

bastards. I agree

**Smogs** · 03-03-11, 01:33 PM

$10bn it costs the economies of the world per year

**treece** · 03-03-11, 01:39 PM

they should just bomb somalia. then after bomb libya since they're in the neighborhood.

**cloudagh** · 03-03-11, 04:34 PM

I agree you don't actually have to patrol the waters. You just place an international group of ships equadistance from each other throughout this area. When the call comes in from ships that they are being approached, it would be a matter of minutes for a jet to be on top of the pirate ship. The problem would go away almost over night.

**Flexin** · 03-03-11, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by cloudagh

I agree you don't actually have to patrol the waters. You just place an international group of ships equadistance from each other throughout this area. When the call comes in from ships that they are being approached, it would be a matter of minutes for a jet to be on top of the pirate ship. The problem would go away almost over night.

There are huge cost in having ships sit there waiting. One has to be big enough to handle the jets you want so that means an air craft carrier. Have you ever seen the amount of crew in one of those?

Might be cheaper/easier to have a small crew of Marines on board boats passing by that area. Just like you would have a harbour captain take a ship into a harbour.

James

**Flexin** · 03-03-11, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by BGboothA

Personally, I have a couple of problems....mainly who are the idiots sailing threw Somolian waters with a family....

I agree. If your going through that area your better off waiting for other boats. And there really should be firearms on all of the boats. If not it would just be one stop shopping for the pirates.

James

**rsnnh12** · 03-03-11, 05:57 PM

I'm pretty sure there's an international law banning guns on boats. If they change that and let boats actually defend themselves, the pirates will start getting the hint that not every boat is an easy target, and back down

**robmpink** · 03-03-11, 06:28 PM

They have never been the same since the days of Bonds, Bonilla, and Van Slyke.

lol

**Flexin** · 03-03-11, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

I'm pretty sure there's an international law banning guns on boats. If they change that and let boats actually defend themselves, the pirates will start getting the hint that not every boat is an easy target, and back down

As far as I can tell there is no international law. Its when you enter the waters of certain countries you can be jailed for it. In some areas they say you just have to hand them over till you leave.

I'm not huge on guns but if I was traveling by boat with my family I would like to have one. If someone comes on your boat I'm sure they will be armed.

James