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Dude the Old Testament was the Hebrew bible he grew up reading, he was supposed to be the savior prophesized in the Old Testament OF THE JEWISH RELIGION but the problem was the Jews didnt buy his shit bc he clearly wasnt a very convincing God so his followers decided to add on after he got killed an entirely new almost completely unrelated bible (the "new" testament) and create a new non-jew religion. The Old Testament and New testament are absolutely different, god in the old testament is just a complete psycho that pwns ppl for breathin wrong, if u looked at old testament god the wrong way you were executed before you had the chance to apologize, but following some extreme anger management classes the god in the new testament is a great guy that is unbelievably forgiving and full of love, gets tried and executed (part of some illogical plan that our sins are cleansed bc we executed god?
), just says whatever ya did if ur halfway sorry ull enter the kingdom of heaven as long as you accept him as your savior, just make sure to fill up the plate with ur tithe please, god needs your cash and your acceptance of his being your savior, wow eternal salvation is easy
Yep he lived and was executed and that was his plan for guys 50 years after his death to right a bunch of fairy tale stories and start a religion about a guy that said he was God and split oceans and juggled mountains and everything else and then was tried in court and executed (judge had some balls to condemn ocean splitting god to death and of course it was nice of God to just let himself be executed rather than pwn ppl left and right like he did in the Old Testament)Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 05-31-10, 01:12 AM.Comment -
Profit you ask for respect in your post above, but yet you have done nothing but give disrespect in your posts.
And Jesus died when he was 33. So give me the source that says the church says nothing about Jesus in his teens through early thirties. He didn't live past his early 30's man. And I'm sorry your aunt is dumb and a Christian but what is that supposed to prove? I have 2 doctors, an Aeronautical Engineer with a masters degree from Va Tech, my dad who was a pharmacist, and a lot of other really smart people in my family who are all Christians. I also have some dumb people in my family who aren't. But what does that prove to this debate? Nothing.Comment -
Wrong, many Jews did convert from Judaism to Christianity. Before Jesus came, Christianity was obviously not an option.Dude the Old Testament was the Hebrew bible he grew up reading, he was supposed to be the savior prophesized in the Old Testament OF THE JEWISH RELIGION but the problem was the Jews didnt buy his shit bc he clearly wasnt a very convincing God so his followers decided to add on after he got killed an entirely new almost completely unrelated bible (the "new" testament) and create a new non-jew religion. The Old Testament and New testament are absolutely different, god in the old testament is just a complete psycho that pwns ppl for breathin wrong, god in the new testament is a nice guy that oh hell whatever ya did if ur halfway sorry ull enter the kingdom of heaven
Yep he lived and was executed and that was his plan for guys 50 years after his death to right a bunch of fairy tale stories and start a religion about a God that grew up and got killed, unfukinreal, gl with that plan of his, very confidence instilling
Very recently Hitler convinced a large portion of a 1st world nation that all Jews should die, and they carried that out to a large extent. So is it that hard to believe that some idiots on a power trip back in Jesus' time were threatened by Jesus and decided to have him killed?Comment -
So the Jews were all on a power trip and even though they were convinced he was god and the savior prophesized in their bible they were threatened and decided it would be better to nail him to a cross?
My friend you will believe anything, good luck with your accepting Jesus as your savior hes gonna climb right down from that cross and fly u straight up to your mansion in heaven as soon as ya die just bc u believed hed do it and put ur 10% in the collection plate on Sunday
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Originally Posted by flyingillini
All Religion is nothing but Brainwashing. Most people are very weak-minded and want something to believe in, it gives them hope.
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All Religion is nothing but Brainwashing. Most people are very weak-minded and want something to believe in, it gives them hope.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
Yes, religion is a crutch for weak-minded people.Comment -
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It doesn't matter. After age 70, We all will be god-fearing religious devouts
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the point of this was a poll... arguing your stance and taking shots at other's beliefs is uncalled for.Comment -
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Jesus Christ!, you have a hard time arguing a point. you have still failed to provide any "proof" that jesus is the answer. i understand you've got multiply posters prodding at you, but damn don't waste everyone's time responding with bullshit about "scientific research" and believing in your heart. ???I don't assume you do or don't believe in a creator. You asked me to go first and I gave you a very short version of why I believe what I believe.
The text you gave about "why the Christian God is Impossible" has a few problems. First of all it doesn't prove that the Christian God is impossible, nor does it give any real reason for me to believe that my God is impossible. The text is based on what the writer thinks God would/should do to spread his word and go about his business, when in reality if there is a God, God knows better about how to go about spreading His word, interacting with people, and how to deal with the universe than the writer of that piece would.
To the person who asked me to give my research, I can't it would take the rest of my life to type it. My conclusion came through decades now of research into the subject that continues on. Also, the university science classes I took all pointed to there being a God, and supported what is written in the Bible (therefore supported the Christian God).
The main thing is what is in your heart. Many of the smartest people on the Earth are Christians, and many of the dumbest people on the Earth are Christians. God made it so that you don't have to be able to do research like I have to become a Christian and find the real truth.
It's all about what you believe in your heart to be true. The research I have done is not necessary, but I wanted to do it anyway. Jesus is in my heart, I know that to be fact. He loves me and it makes life worth living.
I don't have any problem with atheists or people of other religions. I pray for them, I pray for Christians. Nobody here is an enemy of mine. I may have come across as a know it all prick in this thread, sometimes that happens with me it's something I am forever trying to stop.
Here is a good resource for people to read about how science supports Christianity.
if you want to believe that there's a god because life itself is proof of a creation. fine. but how did this god become the arrogant son'bitch human that got himself in trouble at the temple during passover (cleansing of the temple), and then proceeds to go around telling all the romans that HE was king of the jews. (sedition and treason being a capital offense and all).
your whole belief system is based on faith. with the only authority you claim to have being the bible. (god's word) but the bible was written, translated, copied, interpreted, voted on, and related by MEN. NOT GOD! Your faith is in MAN'S WORD.
you have a brain that has the ability to have rational and logical thoughts. if you truly believe that god created man, then you know that god gave you these abilities. so why not use them to make judgments for yourself without needing god to tell you what to do. everything that you have ever been told about god, you were told by a man, not god. yet instead of trusting what god gave you, you decide to believe what man told you.Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 07-03-14, 03:45 PM.Comment -
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[quote=WileOut;4812959]mrmarket your statement asking others to not ask you to prove a negative is flawed. This explains what I mean.
You're right. I should have formed my language more correctly. Here:
One more thing though to anyone who holds belief in something. Just prove it with verifiable evidence.Remember that I cannot be called upon to prove a negative as means to your providing evidence for the existence of god. Faith is irrelevant because it fundamentally illogical. Only verifiable evidence matters.
The belief of the majority is not a valid argument for the existence of god. But first define what you mean by "god". Show me proof of your "god" that can verified scientifically. Just wanting and wishing for something to exist does not make it so. Miracles do not count as proof either. You have to prove that your entity exists before you start attributing phenomena to it.Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 07-03-14, 03:46 PM.Comment -
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1. God works through man.
2. Man works for God.
3. God gave you free will, use it at your disgression.Comment -
it's not just about the bible and the other historical documentation involving Jesus of Nazareth. That history is undisputable. you think thousands of Jews, Romans and Asians, Africans just willingly martyred themselves over a literal construct, you're a fool. That happenned in the first generation of Jesus's time.Comment -
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Of course anyone can believe in what they want but I can't take religious people seriously. No matter if Christians, Muslims or believers in the flying spaghetti monster . Frankly I don't see how any intelligent human being could believe in that crap. The world would be a much better place without religion.Comment -
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1.Act intelligently
2.Treat others as you would like to be treated
Why do people need a God to tell them these things? It's not complicated.Originally posted by Dark HorseComment -
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umm, excuse me sir, that is godComment -
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This life is a dream, we will wake up when we die!!!!!!Comment -
The Bible would have been more believable if it didn't try to explain the obvious as something godly. Like Mary was married to Joseph but Jesus was conceived by an angel..or Adam had two sons and no daughters but doesn't mention incest in the continuation of the human species.Comment
Actually, I'm honored. I was sad the day I heard Willie B passed on. I would've been proud to have shared the exact same name as such a fine beast. Too bad he was named for a slimy Atlanta politician, but hey, it's all good in the end.
