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    Debt Ceiling

    I find it very difficult to believe that there aren't at least 5 out of the 222 Republican members of the House sane enough to baulk at forcing a catastrophic default.

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    In another HUGE embarrassment for Kevin McCarthy a new poll finds Americans STRONGLY support President Biden’s position on avoiding a default crisis.

    An astounding 58% of the American population believes that Congress should handle 1) the issue of paying its debts to avoid default and 2) debates on federal spending as DISTINCT matters.

    That means 3/5 Americans do NOT support Republicans using threats of default as a political bargaining chip.

    The Washington Post/ABC poll also found only 26% of Americans agree with Republicans who say Biden should agree to spending cuts before Congress pays its debt.

    Americans DO NOT support Kevin McCarthy or his GOP created default crisis.

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    Fake news.

    It's a compromise and of course Biden doesn't want one, even though he say's he does..

    Cut spending, raise the debt ceiling. What so difficult.?.

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    The debt is money we all ready owe, we need to pay those bills.
    Compromise on spending can be done when you negotiate the Budget.
    If the USA defaults on its dept, I hope everyone in office gets voted out, this should have already been taking care of.

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    His budget has already cut spending and will reduce deficits by almost $3T over the next decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    His budget has already cut spending and will reduce deficits by almost $3T over the next decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    His budget has already cut spending and will reduce deficits by almost $3T over the next decade.
    Where do you even get these lies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    Where do you even get these lies?
    No lies:
    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/overview-...fy-2024-budget

    Proposals in the President's FY 2024 Budget, As Summarized in the Budget

    Policy 2023-2033
    Deficits Projected in OMB's Baseline $21,637 billion
    Reduce costs of child care, early learning, housing, higher education, healthcare, and prescription drugs $1,100 billion
    Provide tax breaks to working people and families and increase funding for home care $1,067 billion
    Strengthen public health and improve health outcomes $428 billion
    Increase taxes on high-income households and corporations -$1,190 billion
    Increase Corporate Income Tax Rate from 21% to 28% -$1,415 billion
    Close Medicare tax loopholes and increase Medicare tax to restore Medicare solvency -$678 billion
    Other investments and reforms -$1,996 billion
    Subtotal, Proposals in the FY 2024 Budget -$2,773 billion
    Interest -$330 billion
    Total, Proposals in FY 2024 Budget -$3,014 billion
    Deficits Projected in FY 2024 Budget $18,624 billion


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    Maybe by 'not' raising the debt limit will force our government to live within its means -- and that will mean a LOT more spending cuts than McCarthy has offered ...

    For once let's just force the government to live within its means -- NO debt limit increase - Biden and Dems will only spend it ----STAND FIRM -- THERE WILL BE NO DEFAULTS And do not listen to Yellen - her time in office is transitory and she is just a Biden puppet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thak! View Post
    No lies:
    https://www.crfb.org/blogs/overview-...fy-2024-budget

    Proposals in the President's FY 2024 Budget, As Summarized in the Budget

    Policy 2023-2033
    Deficits Projected in OMB's Baseline $21,637 billion
    Reduce costs of child care, early learning, housing, higher education, healthcare, and prescription drugs $1,100 billion
    Provide tax breaks to working people and families and increase funding for home care $1,067 billion
    Strengthen public health and improve health outcomes $428 billion
    Increase taxes on high-income households and corporations -$1,190 billion
    Increase Corporate Income Tax Rate from 21% to 28% -$1,415 billion
    Close Medicare tax loopholes and increase Medicare tax to restore Medicare solvency -$678 billion
    Other investments and reforms -$1,996 billion
    Subtotal, Proposals in the FY 2024 Budget -$2,773 billion
    Interest -$330 billion
    Total, Proposals in FY 2024 Budget -$3,014 billion
    Deficits Projected in FY 2024 Budget $18,624 billion


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    Quote Originally Posted by slewfan View Post
    Maybe by 'not' raising the debt limit will force our government to live within its means -- and that will mean a LOT more spending cuts than McCarthy has offered ...

    For once let's just force the government to live within its means -- NO debt limit increase - Biden and Dems will only spend it ----STAND FIRM -- THERE WILL BE NO DEFAULTS And do not listen to Yellen - her time in office is transitory and she is just a Biden puppet.
    The Biden administration is "living within it's means" - did you not look at the Budget?
    The current debts which need paying are the result of PAST spending and clearly down to the previous administration blowing the deficit and spiralling the national debt principally through their large tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    The Biden administration is "living within it's means" - did you not look at the Budget?
    The current debts which need paying are the result of PAST spending and clearly down to the previous administration blowing the deficit and spiralling the national debt principally through their large tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    I don't even have a word for you not understanding that we need to pay dept we already made in the past.
    The limit has to be raised so this can happen. They can argue over more cuts in budget negotiations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    I don't even have a word for you not understanding that we need to pay dept we already made in the past.
    The limit has to be raised so this can happen. They can argue over more cuts in budget negotiations.


    but DipShit is nothing but a dumb MAGAt who refuses to accept the truth and loves to call it a lie but never explains why

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    I don't even have a word for you not understanding that we need to pay dept we already made in the past.
    The limit has to be raised so this can happen. They can argue over more cuts in budget negotiations.
    You choose to believe the lies you are told. No one is holding a gun to your head.

    Hareeballs posts nonsense, has been doing so forever and his lies have been debunked so much so that his only course of action is to block everyone who does so. He’s like Brian Stelter and CNN. He thinks he’s smart, he constantly tells everyone how smart he is but only dumb people buy what he’s selling.

    Remember when Jim Acosta went to the border wall and while he was live, he walked along the wall telling his audience how there are no illegals to be found. It’s all quiet. He thought he was being clever but reasonable people immediately understood how utterly stupid he is. The point is, virtually everything hareeballs says is a lie and only a fool believes otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    In another HUGE embarrassment for Kevin McCarthy a new poll finds Americans STRONGLY support President Biden’s position on avoiding a default crisis.

    An astounding 58% of the American population believes that Congress should handle 1) the issue of paying its debts to avoid default and 2) debates on federal spending as DISTINCT matters.

    That means 3/5 Americans do NOT support Republicans using threats of default as a political bargaining chip.

    The Washington Post/ABC poll also found only 26% of Americans agree with Republicans who say Biden should agree to spending cuts before Congress pays its debt.

    Americans DO NOT support Kevin McCarthy or his GOP created default crisis.

    Uh huh ! Let the senile pants shitter blink because KMac isn’t .


    CNN Poll: 60% say debt ceiling increase should come with spending cuts



    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/23/p...uts/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    See below. All these pricks pile on the debt. Bottom line- we spend more than we bring in. You could not run your home finances or a business the way Washington manages the federal budget. It’s pretty impressive but a majority of Americans are not financially literate so… here we are!

    Admin Added to Public Debt
    Obama $9,320,427,506,299 29.67%
    Trump $7,804,591,681,202 24.84%
    Biden $3,664,542,331,090 11.66%

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    One thing you need to remember is that because of the giveaway to the rich by the tax cuts the dems never have has much to pay the bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chico2663 View Post
    One thing you need to remember is that because of the giveaway to the rich by the tax cuts the dems never have has much to pay the bills.
    another thing to remember is not to believe the lies they tell constantly on the liberal biased media.

    revenue has never been a problem. over spending has.

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    Joe Biden inked this deal in a 90 minute, one-on-one, negotiation with Kevin McCarthy.

    That's the type of thing that says a lot more about mental competence than someone with a lifelong stutter flubbing a word every now and then.

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    After Calling Joe Biden Senile, Republicans Complain He Outsmarted Them

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-b...b045ce2485f035

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    His budget has already cut spending and will reduce deficits by almost $3T over the next decade.
    First of all... if you're an intelligent President to begin with... you'd cut this debt faster than that... nearly 50% faster. Furthermore, when you have "long term" plans to pay a debt back... for example 10 years... that's 10 years of life... things pop up and you have to go BACK INTO DEBT. We won't get OUT OF DEBT unless you have a SMART BUSINESS MAN making the right moves. Not a politician in which he's in everyone's pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    First of all... if you're an intelligent President to begin with... you'd cut this debt faster than that... nearly 50% faster. Furthermore, when you have "long term" plans to pay a debt back... for example 10 years... that's 10 years of life... things pop up and you have to go BACK INTO DEBT. We won't get OUT OF DEBT unless you have a SMART BUSINESS MAN making the right moves. Not a politician in which he's in everyone's pocket.

    LOL

    You mean like the budgets under TFG and his predecessor Rs?

    All of whom increased National debt to appease their wealthy donors demanding tax cuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    You choose to believe the lies you are told. No one is holding a gun to your head.

    Hareeballs posts nonsense, has been doing so forever and his lies have been debunked so much so that his only course of action is to block everyone who does so. He’s like Brian Stelter and CNN. He thinks he’s smart, he constantly tells everyone how smart he is but only dumb people buy what he’s selling.

    Remember when Jim Acosta went to the border wall and while he was live, he walked along the wall telling his audience how there are no illegals to be found. It’s all quiet. He thought he was being clever but reasonable people immediately understood how utterly stupid he is. The point is, virtually everything hareeballs says is a lie and only a fool believes otherwise.
    But what does the lies or any of your post, have to do with paying the bills that the USA already has?

    I'm not being any kind of way with this. Yes, as a country the books are not balanced, and with the exception of a few years, over many decades we have spent more than we have brought in and need to find ways to get the books to balance. The overspending in those many years still have to be paid for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    But what does the lies or any of your post, have to do with paying the bills that the USA already has?

    I'm not being any kind of way with this. Yes, as a country the books are not balanced, and with the exception of a few years, over many decades we have spent more than we have brought in and need to find ways to get the books to balance. The overspending in those many years still have to be paid for.
    I see that DipShit is again accusing me of posting nonsense and lies.
    Easy for him to say it but he could never demonstrate the merit of his accusations.
    Same as Trump .. say it often enough and it becomes the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    another thing to remember is not to believe the lies they tell constantly on the liberal biased media.

    revenue has never been a problem. over spending has.
    This is meaningless. There are 30 million more Americans now than in 2009. Revenues go up every year with population, so do our outlays. The number to look at is the deficit, which grew under Trump because he decreased tax revenue.

    You know this, but you're a well know liar. Which is why you have to call other "liars".. Right out of the Trump playbook.

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    CBO says Republicans’ $21 billion IRS cut will result in $40 billion in lost revenue, increasing the deficit by $19 billion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    CBO says Republicans’ $21 billion IRS cut will result in $40 billion in lost revenue, increasing the deficit by $19 billion
    Your as incompetent as the Prez, and the debt will likely rise by 4Trillion or more because of phony Democrat spending in the next 2 years. Stick to horse racing or the lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogkatcher View Post
    Your as incompetent as the Prez, and the debt will likely rise by 4Trillion or more because of phony Democrat spending in the next 2 years. Stick to horse racing or the lottery.
    And your grammar sucks.
    So you would know more about it than the CBO eh? Yeah sure!
    What is "phony spending"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    First of all... if you're an intelligent President to begin with... you'd cut this debt faster than that... nearly 50% faster. Furthermore, when you have "long term" plans to pay a debt back... for example 10 years... that's 10 years of life... things pop up and you have to go BACK INTO DEBT. We won't get OUT OF DEBT unless you have a SMART BUSINESS MAN making the right moves. Not a politician in which he's in everyone's pocket.
    Trump $7,804,591,681,202

    Again, not trying to argue here or be any kind of way, but if your first sentence is true, (and I understand you don't think much of Biden or his intelligence).

    You are saying the same of Trump, he had 40% of ten years and it increased
    $7,804,591,681,202.

    Did not cut one penny.

    Saying neither is intelligent is fine with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogkatcher View Post
    Your as incompetent as the Prez, and the debt will likely rise by 4Trillion or more because of phony Democrat spending in the next 2 years. Stick to horse racing or the lottery.
    pho·ny
    1. Not genuine or real;


    So that means there will be no spending you speak of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackpot269 View Post
    pho·ny
    1. Not genuine or real;
    phony

    fō′nē
    adjective

    1. Not genuine or real; sham or counterfeit.
    2. Spurious, deceptive, or false.
    3. Fraudulent, deceitful, or dishonest.


    The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.

    I believe all the above apply. Not only to the the Fake Debt Ceiling Default, but to the whole
    Democratic agenda.


    Hey Hairball, you're right about my grammer.. Probably the only thing you've been right about.



    So that means there will be no spending you speak of?
    LOL, the spending most likely will be up the Wazoooo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    You choose to believe the lies you are told. No one is holding a gun to your head.

    Hareeballs posts nonsense, has been doing so forever and his lies have been debunked so much so that his only course of action is to block everyone who does so. He’s like Brian Stelter and CNN. He thinks he’s smart, he constantly tells everyone how smart he is but only dumb people buy what he’s selling.

    Remember when Jim Acosta went to the border wall and while he was live, he walked along the wall telling his audience how there are no illegals to be found. It’s all quiet. He thought he was being clever but reasonable people immediately understood how utterly stupid he is. The point is, virtually everything hareeballs says is a lie and only a fool believes otherwise.
    Are you talking to a mirror?
    Because You will believe anything as long as Mr. Trump is not held accountable for anything he does.
    Not only do you believe you repost them 100's of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogkatcher View Post
    LOL, the spending most likely will be up the Wazoooo.
    So it will defy history eh?

    We'll see.


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