(Bitcoin) Who = Satoshi?

[ChuckyTheGoat]

1) The likely names have been mentioned.
...Nick Szabo started a BitGold project that sounds a lot like Bitcoin.
...Also, Japanese language often flips the first/last name. SN = NS?

2) It's fair to think that SN is not just one guy. SN = pool of posters?

3) Was Satoshi's exit based on him seeing legal issues in the future?
...Nobody wants to take credit for Bitcoin.
...Satoshi would surely have had a deep understanding of the history of the money.

[astrobloke]

satoshi lol.

good luck finding " him "

look to the GOVT and CIA, which started BTC for nefarious means.

insert " covid " Cough, cough and cashless society.

You wont be finding satoshi anytime soon. LOL.

Remember the Craig wright story LOL

[ChuckyTheGoat]

satoshi lol.

good luck finding " him "

look to the GOVT and CIA, which started BTC for nefarious means.

insert " covid " Cough, cough and cashless society.

You wont be finding satoshi anytime soon. LOL.

Remember the Craig wright story LOL

Hi, astro. I did see the Craig Wright story. Made him sound like more of a clown.

Don't really buy the CIA theory. Bitcoin is anti-government, so that doesn't line up.

As for nefarious means, surely that lines up to COVID. Government produced COVID as a distraction.

My thinking is that Satoshi = a pool of writers. Hal Finney, Adam Back, Nick Szabo and others. They worked on similar currency projects, like the BitGold I reference.
...By being a pool, a guy like Szabo could HONESTLY reply with "No, I'm not Satoshi." No, in the sense that it wasn't just one guy.

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I think the Satoshi who wrote the white paper was one person who did it alone.

No doubt a group created the initial code, but I doubt even one of those people were authorized to speak as Satoshi.

I think anyone claiming to be Satoshi is definitely not him, as if he wanted to be known he could very easily prove it via his known wallet.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I think the Satoshi who wrote the white paper was one person who did it alone.

No doubt a group created the initial code, but I doubt even one of those people were authorized to speak as Satoshi.

I think anyone claiming to be Satoshi is definitely not him, as if he wanted to be known he could very easily prove it via his known wallet.

Opti, imagine if the Satoshi heirloom stayed dormant for 50 years. If those coins magically awoke in 2074, how much would those coins be worth???

[astrobloke]

Hi, astro. I did see the Craig Wright story. Made him sound like more of a clown.

Don't really buy the CIA theory. Bitcoin is anti-government, so that doesn't line up.

As for nefarious means, surely that lines up to COVID. Government produced COVID as a distraction.

My thinking is that Satoshi = a pool of writers. Hal Finney, Adam Back, Nick Szabo and others. They worked on similar currency projects, like the BitGold I reference.
...By being a pool, a guy like Szabo could HONESTLY reply with "No, I'm not Satoshi." No, in the sense that it wasn't just one guy.

" anti govt" NOT anti govt.

is about more control. This is how they frame it. It might sound conspiratorial.

But he who controls the money controls the population.

It was a group of very smart students, and FIN TECH guys and CIA... not just one guy. Like the fake news legacy media tell us.

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Opti, imagine if the Satoshi heirloom stayed dormant for 50 years. If those coins magically awoke in 2074, how much would those coins be worth???

Those coins are a bit of a landmine.

He holds so much he could manipulate the trading price one day.

Institutions would much rather know he is dead to have some certainty that wont happen. But even then he could hand over the keys in a will as you suggest.

If the guy is alive, he appears to not be money motivated to just leave it all untouched.

[astrobloke]

eventually BTC will be around. But ISO 20022 is the new standard coming, while we were in COVID and LOCKDOWNS it was being implemented, to replace SWIFT.

you can look it up. Digital currencies are the future.

even some betting sites, accept Crypto now a days, but its early days.

Crypto or digital is the path to the future, with BRICS,

they are stepping away from the FIAT cocaine based money.

Just look what is on your USD dollar note, and read, and see how evil this is set up against you to name you a SLAVE . Caught in the matrix.

[astrobloke]

for those digging deeper, BTC is going to be there, the grand daddy, but look into ISO 20022 and XLM and XRP which are the future.
....
Blockchain is TRUSTLESS, and so its going to be used in future elections, to makes sure the Democrats do not cheat....

Do the Democraps have a future, ? Or do they just think that? LOL

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Astro, I consider myself to be pretty knowledgeable about the history of money in the USA over the past 120 years. Go thru the facts. The presidents who messed with the money = the worst presidents from the last 120 years.

1913: Federal Reserve system is created under Woodrow Wilson presidency. Implications since?

1933: FDR seized all gold from US citizens. He then re-prices Gold from $20/oz to $35/oz, lol. WTF?

1965: Lyndon Johnson - Coinage Act of 1965. Strips all the silver out of the coins. WTF?

1971: France wants to redeem their Dollars for Gold. Nixon suspends convertibility of USD to Gold. WTF?

...You can't make this stuff up.

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" anti govt" NOT anti govt.

is about more control. This is how they frame it. It might sound conspiratorial.

But he who controls the money controls the population.

It was a group of very smart students, and FIN TECH guys and CIA... not just one guy. Like the fake news legacy media tell us.

I strongly believe it was one person, who was inspired by the way the feds walked all over the law in the early 2000s to shut down any sort of money transfer service that they could not fully control.

When they backstabbed E-Gold founder Doug Jackson I believe Satoshi was so "offended" by that and previous actions against similar products, that he was inspired to write the white paper to show that there was a solution that the feds simply could not stop with their sledge hammer law enforcement methods.

It was not created as some conspiracy, it was created 100% as anarchy currency driven by personal ethics and ideology, not for greed or power or tricking users or as a front for the govt to collect information etc etc.

It was one frustrated smart guy who wanted to prove a point at the time of creation.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Well said, Opti. Satoshi was an incredibly bright guy. He was learned in different arenas.

I've read a good bit on this. The Nick Szabo bio lines up so closely to Satoshi's resume.

We'll (probably) never know. The guy (or guys) did it for a reason. I can't imagine they saw the future this clearly.

[astrobloke]

Astro, I consider myself to be pretty knowledgeable about the history of money in the USA over the past 120 years. Go thru the facts. The presidents who messed with the money = the worst presidents from the last 120 years.

1913: Federal Reserve system is created under Woodrow Wilson presidency. Implications since?

1933: FDR seized all gold from US citizens. He then re-prices Gold from $20/oz to $35/oz, lol. WTF?

1965: Lyndon Johnson - Coinage Act of 1965. Strips all the silver out of the coins. WTF?

1971: France wants to redeem their Dollars for Gold. Nixon suspends convertibility of USD to Gold. WTF?

...You can't make this stuff up.

This is the TRUTH.

JFK wanted to go back to metal back currency. He was shot.

TRUMP trying to do the same, and back the currency with metals, GOLD / SILVER

and what happened to trump 50 days ago.

BINGO!

You cannot make this stuff up.

I dunno who win the elections, but a good bet might be on TRUMP to win.

This is not mean I am cheering for trump, but cheering because you looked into the money aspect of this.

And trump and is sons have been going on about crypto for a long time now, like whiney teenager on TIKTOK. lol.

so this is all getting very interesting. But I feel Crypto or digital currency is going to be the future.

But I agree with you my friend, GOVT is not part of the solution, they are using part of the PROBLEM.

USA needs to go back to the republics, and it will thrive like never before. If they do that, I will come and visit.

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for those digging deeper, BTC is going to be there, the grand daddy, but look into ISO 20022 and XLM and XRP which are the future.
....
Blockchain is TRUSTLESS, and so its going to be used in future elections, to makes sure the Democrats do not cheat....

Do the Democraps have a future, ? Or do they just think that? LOL

Oh sorry for answering seriously.

Did not realize you are one of the angry lemming loonies that have already been lost to sensible society.

Ya know what? If you wake up one day in complete embarrassment about how you have been manipulated and the dumb stuff you have been tricked into saying out loud... then you will be one of the lucky few who escape the mind-phuk you have been victimized by.


I am sure both GOP and DEM voters are now mostly all rolling their eyes every time one of you obnoxious loonies turn another different topic conversation into one of your sad Karen rants about evil voters on the other side.

Get woke and realize what pathetic manipulated professional victims you sound like.

[astrobloke]

Well said, Opti. Satoshi was an incredibly bright guy. He was learned in different arenas.

I've read a good bit on this. The Nick Szabo bio lines up so closely to Satoshi's resume.

We'll (probably) never know. The guy (or guys) did it for a reason. I can't imagine they saw the future this clearly.

you got it. They wont be finding him anytime soon. He is a GHOST. for good reason.

I already hold a bit of crypto, but look at the huge problems with rates, and yields .... and the liquidity crisis in the banks.
So when that comes to the surface look out. The banks are in trouble, the Stockmarket will crash with NVDA and AI flusher, and people will stop trusting that system and flood into crypto. I was talking to a friend about this just today, and he started to see it. For the first time ever.

Huge transfer of wealth coming, so I dont care about the SATOSHI thing. And by panic I dont mean out of crypto. That is happening now. In the future people will PANIC INTO CRYPTO. It's will be very fun and interesting to watch.

[astrobloke]

Oh sorry for answering seriously.

Did not realize you are one of the angry lemming loonies that have already been lost to sensible society.

Ya know what? If you wake up one day in complete embarrassment about how you have been manipulated and the dumb stuff you have been tricked into saying out loud... then you will be one of the lucky few who escape the mind-phuk you have been victimized by.


I am sure both GOP and DEM voters are now mostly all rolling their eyes every time one of you obnoxious loonies turn another different topic conversation into one of your sad Karen rants about evil voters on the other side.

Get woke and realize what pathetic manipulated professional victims you sound like.

its just a differing of opinions. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. man up, or I have a tissue somewhere here to dry your eyes?

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its just a differing of opinions. I did not mean to hurt your feelings. man up, or I have a tissue somewhere here to dry your eyes?

Projecting onto others is the lowest sort of argument.

Seriously, you don't need to imagine half your neighbours are evil for simply voting different to you.

We have all been subjected to constant fear messaging for so long it can be hard to not feel angry, but that should be focused as the people v the powers that be... crying that half the people are evil for voting the other way really means you are against democracy. You are unwilling to accept other people's opinions if you cannot have your own way.

You are being tricked into calling for all powerful imperial leaders and no right for ordinary people to dissent.

Think about it and it should be clear what is happening.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Hi, astro. I've written about this b4. Eisenhower warned of the Military-Industrial complex in his exit speech.

JFK created a lot of enemies. When he came into office, he didn't like spending all this money on the Vietnam War. He wanted to reel in the power of the Federal Rsv, see Executive Order 11110.

Johnson comes into power. He removes the silver from the coins. JMO, these events are not a coincidence.

[astrobloke]

Hi, astro. I've written about this b4. Eisenhower warned of the Military-Industrial complex in his exit speech.

JFK created a lot of enemies. When he came into office, he didn't like spending all this money on the Vietnam War. He wanted to reel in the power of the Federal Rsv, see Executive Order 11110.

Johnson comes into power. He removes the silver from the coins. JMO, these events are not a coincidence.

yes friend you cannot make this stuff up. You nailed it friend.

satoshi is a " Ghost" and they almost turned the former president to exactly that.

there are a few democrat lovers in here can say what they want, but its good to see there are a few in here like yourself sir, who can still use their brain, and still think for themselves. yes.

The world is changing.

[Sawyer]

CIA is not Satoshi.

If Satoshi was somebody from CIA,
Why CIA would invite Gavin Anderson to make a presentation about Bitcoin?

ItIf you're curious about who is satoshi,

We're Satoshi. We're all Satoshi.

It's up to us to keep bitcoin alive and decentralized.

Soon, humanity will make a choice between slavery (CBDCs) and freedom (Bitcoin).

[ChuckyTheGoat]

This is the TRUTH.

JFK wanted to go back to metal back currency. He was shot.

TRUMP trying to do the same, and back the currency with metals, GOLD / SILVER

and what happened to trump 50 days ago.

BINGO!

You cannot make this stuff up.

I dunno who win the elections, but a good bet might be on TRUMP to win.

This is not mean I am cheering for trump, but cheering because you looked into the money aspect of this.

And trump and is sons have been going on about crypto for a long time now, like whiney teenager on TIKTOK. lol.

so this is all getting very interesting. But I feel Crypto or digital currency is going to be the future.

But I agree with you my friend, GOVT is not part of the solution, they are using part of the PROBLEM.

USA needs to go back to the republics, and it will thrive like never before. If they do that, I will come and visit.

Astro, I consider myself mostly a-political. I don't judge politicians blindly. And nowadays, both parties have a lot of fleas.

You do wonder about the Trump assassination attempt. Nefarious parties? No security at this event?

This site has monitored the likely election results. It's going to be very close.

I will give one comment about Harris (and Democrats, in general). Will they please STFU on economic topics?

Harris talking about:
*boosting the economy
*making products more affordable
*removing the need to work two jobs

As if she can flip a switch and solve these things. In fairness, she might think that she CAN. Money-printer go burrrrr.

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Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery

Satoshi revealed?

HBO's new film Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery claims it will reveal Satoshi Nakamoto's identity tomorrow.

Filmmaker Cullen Hoback previously claimed to have identified the people behind QAnon in his series Q: Into the Storm and has promised to "land on a specific name".

Polymarket betting strongly favoured the late cryptographer and privacy advocate Len Sassaman earlier in the week. Still, Bit Gold and smart contract creator Nick Szabo is in front, with Adam Back and Paul Le Roux attracting bets, too. The film screens on HBO today.

[Arky]

Follow-up to the above post.

From today's CryptoCompare newsletter:


HBO Documentary Suggests Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto May Be Peter Todd

"A new HBO documentary, "Money Electric: The Bitcoin Mystery," explores the origins of the flagship cryptocurrency and suggests that Canadian software developer Peter Todd might be the mysterious Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto.

Released on Tuesday, October 8, the 100-minute film features interviews with several prominent early Bitcoin figures, including Adam Back, Roger Ver, Samson Mow, and Todd.

The documentary’s creator, Cullen Hoback, relies on circumstantial evidence to propose that Todd could be Nakamoto, including posts from early Bitcoin forums where Todd was active. However, Todd dismissed the idea during the film, calling it “ludicrous” and jokingly claiming, “I am Satoshi Nakamoto.”

The identity of Satoshi Nakamoto has been one of the biggest mysteries in the cryptocurrency world since Bitcoin's inception in 2009. Over the years, various people have been suggested as Nakamoto, including Dorian Nakamoto, who was incorrectly identified by Newsweek in 2014, and Nick Szabo, a computer scientist often linked to Bitcoin’s creation.

The Bitcoin wallets associated with Nakamoto hold approximately 1 million BTC worth over $62 billion, with any movement from these wallets potentially drastically affecting Bitcoin’s value. Furthermore, identifying Nakamoto could influence how governments and corporations approach Bitcoin’s adoption, given the creator's significance in the cryptocurrency’s development.

While Nakamoto has not been heard from since 2011, their legacy and potential influence continue to loom large over the Bitcoin community."

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Why does HBO say Peter Todd is Satoshi Nakamoto?

The “long story short” is that Peter Todd joined Bitcointalk in December 2010 and responded to a post by Satoshi that required in-depth knowledge on the subject.

For the director, Peter and Satoshi were the same people and, due to an alleged oversight, Todd would have responded to such a message with his own name, instead of continuing to use the account “Satoshi.”

The director also questions the fact that Satoshi and Todd disappeared in the days following such message exchanges, asking the developer if he had made a mistake, since it would be impossible for him to respond to Satoshi with so much knowledge if he had just arrived on the market.

The documentary continues by showing other information that proves nothing, such as the citation of a deleted post by Todd stating that he would be the “person with the most experience in life sacrificing bitcoins”, suggesting that he deleted the private keys that would give access to the estimated 1 million bitcoins that Satoshi owns.

Ultimately, the documentary ends with pure speculation and no concrete evidence.

https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/14637584158561

[gauchojake]

It's like when jj would forget to log out of his ghost accounts