is there somewhere we can donate to help Alec Jones?
patriots need to stick together and have each others backs
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pavyracer
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04-12-07
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#37
Originally posted by JIBBBY
I honestly didn't know who he was either until I read the news link today. I'd like to forget now if possible again.
This is why I have been telling you not to watch the same news channel (Fox News) 24/7. If you want to broaden your view of the world and learn more news you got to switch the channel every now and then or look at news online.
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JIBBBY
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12-10-09
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#38
Originally posted by pavyracer
This is why I have been telling you not to watch the same news channel (Fox News) 24/7. If you want to broaden your view of the world and learn more news you got to switch the channel every now and then or look at news online.
Stop it Pavy, I'm on Yahoo news online everyday which is liberal Trump hating as fock. Just skipped this news read for some reason every time it popped up.
I'm open minded and don't only watch FOX news. You got me all wrong buddy..
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pavyracer
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04-12-07
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#39
Originally posted by JIBBBY
Stop it Pavy, I'm on Yahoo news online everyday which is liberal Trump hating as fock. Just skipped this news read for some reason every time it popped up.
I'm open minded and don't only watch FOX news. You got me all wrong buddy..
You said you never heard of Alex Jones before! My grandma who is in her 90s knows who he is. You maybe the only person in the US that haven't heard of this guy.
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JIBBBY
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12-10-09
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#40
Originally posted by pavyracer
You said you never heard of Alex Jones before! My grandma who is in her 90s knows who he is. You maybe the only person in the US that haven't heard of this guy.
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What is the credence to this possibility?
1) The timeline lines up. Hicks' departure in 1994. Was not well-thought out, b/c pancreatic cancer isn't a significant risk to 33-year old. Pancreatic cancer hits much older age group. Very little detail of his funeral.
2) The Alex Jones emergence seemingly came from nowhere a few years later, circa 1996. He started on radio and then got bigger. It's reasonable to think Hicks disappeared for a few years (to England??). Body makeover that included weight work to bulk up, some drugs, hair dye, and plastic surgery.
3) Understand that HICKS was an unusually good performer. Saw an interview with long-time comedian Ron White. White acknowledged that all the comedians of that time conceded that Hicks was better. Hicks performed the art of comedy at a peak level. He could control the audience unlike (most) others. The idea that he could deceive and carry on an act is a tool in his bag of tricks.
4) The voices sound different MOST of the time. Hicks is decidedly Southern, Jones carries less of an accent despite growing up in the same general region (Houston/Austin in Texas). I saw an EARLY clip of Jones where he sounded more Southern and had not yet mastered control of his voice. Hicks/Jones in fact DO sound very similar when they go on animated rants. Hicks would do this regularly during his act, Jones does it more frequently.
5) The two red herrings I mentioned were Hicks' funeral and Jones' hi-school days. Other than his buddy Kevin (best friend to BOTH Hicks/Jones??)...very little evidence of Hicks' funeral. And Jones' supposed hi-school classmates have no recollection of him. Answer is...they made it up.
Hicks was an awesome performer. I enjoyed watching his clips and I even felt bad that he departed early and couldn't contribute more. It was just an act. "Bill Hicks" was an actor that Alex Jones created. Or was "Alex Jones" an actor that Bill Hicks created?
BTW, Glenn Beck might be a retard.
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johnnyvegas13
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#46
I guess they didn’t let him off the hook ...
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ChuckyTheGoat
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Got another scoop on WHY Hicks may have wanted to re-invent himself. Read this clip about him getting banned from Letterman show in 1994. Hicks was edgy enough that he may have no longer been able to perform for a national audience:
The life of Bill Hicks
The life of Bill Hicks -- Poised for stardom, the irreverent comedian battled censors and cancer before his death on February 26th
By Robert Seidenberg Updated June 03, 1994 at 04:00 AM EDT
Bill Hicks was poised for a breakthrough when he prepared to appear on Late Show With David Letterman last October. The native Texan’s outrageous stand-up humor had already made him a star in England. In America, he had done two solo HBO specials and had won the admiration of such colleagues as Jay Leno and Tim Allen. He had appeared on Letterman’s old NBC show 11 times. Yet Hicks remained relatively unknown. At the Oct. 1 Late Show taping, Hicks’ routine included bits about pro-lifers, schoolbooks about gay lifestyles, a fantasy TV show entitled Let’s Hunt and Kill Billy Ray Cyrus, and fundamentalists. ”It’s interesting to note how people act on their beliefs,” Hicks said. ”A lot of Christians, for instance, wear crosses around their necks. Nice sentiment, but do you think when Jesus comes back he’s really going to want to see a cross? Ow! That may be why he hasn’t shown up yet.”
The segment was cut from the broadcast. Hicks later said that Late Show executive producer Robert Morton told him the routine ”touched on too many hot spots.” A spokesperson for Letterman put the case more cautiously: The monologue ”did not pass the standards that we set and that the network sets. We respect Bill, but if it doesn’t pass the standards that we have, we can’t show it.”
Hicks never got another chance to appear before a national audience. Though his illness was unknown to all but his closest friends and family, the comedian was fighting pancreatic cancer. Less than five months later, on Feb. 26, Hicks died at the age of 32.
”Bill was right up there with Lenny Bruce and Richard Pryor,” says Grace Under Fire‘s Brett Butler. ”He was easily the best comedian of my generation.”
”He was a genius,” says Dennis Miller. ”He was one of the five best comics I’ve ever seen in my life.”
This month on Comedy Central, It’s Just a Ride: The Bill Hicks Tribute offers viewers another chance to discover the comedian. Hicks fancied himself, as he put it, a ”cowboy hero, that lone voice in the wilderness fighting corruption and evil.” He mocked antidrug paranoia — ”Rock & roll would not exist without drugs. The Beatles were so high they even let Ringo sing a couple” — as well as the stupidity of drug users: ”Always that same LSD story on the news. ‘Young man on acid thought he could fly, jumped out of a building, what a tragedy.’… If he thought he could fly, why didn’t he take off from the ground first?” Taste was not a concern: ”You heard about this Judas Priest trial? Two kids, big fans of (heavy-metal group) Judas Priest, commit suicide. Wow! Two less gas station attendants in the world.”
Over the years, Hicks had fielded many offers: sitcoms, commercials, grade-C movies. But he had no interest in softening his style. ”He took a lot of s— ’cause he wouldn’t play the game,” recalls longtime friend Stephen Doster, a musician. ”But he didn’t want to end up on a talk show interviewing the cast of Full House for the rest of his life.”
Raised in the suburbs of Houston, Hicks was 12 years old when he began writing and performing his own jokes; by 15, he was sneaking out of his house to perform at the Comedy Workshop with Sam Kinison and the other so-called Outlaw Comics. He barely kept pace in school. ”I graduated number 409 out of 417 in high school,” he said years later, ”just ahead of the AC/DC fan club.”
Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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A Quant
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#48
Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
I've given this enough thought. Yes, I believe that Hicks...became Alex Jones.
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What is the credence to this possibility?
1) The timeline lines up. Hicks' departure in 1994. Was not well-thought out, b/c pancreatic cancer isn't a significant risk to 33-year old. Pancreatic cancer hits much older age group. Very little detail of his funeral.
2) The Alex Jones emergence seemingly came from nowhere a few years later, circa 1996. He started on radio and then got bigger. It's reasonable to think Hicks disappeared for a few years (to England??). Body makeover that included weight work to bulk up, some drugs, hair dye, and plastic surgery.
3) Understand that HICKS was an unusually good performer. Saw an interview with long-time comedian Ron White. White acknowledged that all the comedians of that time conceded that Hicks was better. Hicks performed the art of comedy at a peak level. He could control the audience unlike (most) others. The idea that he could deceive and carry on an act is a tool in his bag of tricks.
4) The voices sound different MOST of the time. Hicks is decidedly Southern, Jones carries less of an accent despite growing up in the same general region (Houston/Austin in Texas). I saw an EARLY clip of Jones where he sounded more Southern and had not yet mastered control of his voice. Hicks/Jones in fact DO sound very similar when they go on animated rants. Hicks would do this regularly during his act, Jones does it more frequently.
5) The two red herrings I mentioned were Hicks' funeral and Jones' hi-school days. Other than his buddy Kevin (best friend to BOTH Hicks/Jones??)...very little evidence of Hicks' funeral. And Jones' supposed hi-school classmates have no recollection of him. Answer is...they made it up.
Hicks was an awesome performer. I enjoyed watching his clips and I even felt bad that he departed early and couldn't contribute more. It was just an act. "Bill Hicks" was an actor that Alex Jones created. Or was "Alex Jones" an actor that Bill Hicks created?
BTW, Glenn Beck might be a retard.
If Alex Jones really is an incarnation of Bill Hick's, you may want to let Bill's brother, Steve in on it.
He was doing a lot of pancreatic cancer fund raisers, I even saw him in Grand Rapids when he was promoting the documentary about Bill-----
Oh, and if you really think Alex Jones is Bill Hicks, you are whacked out of your fukkking skull. And you do know, Hicks is buried in Leakesville, MS, right?
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SBR_Guest_Pro
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#50
Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
I guess they didn’t let him off the hook ...
Nice
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juicername
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#51
Originally posted by A Quant
If Alex Jones really is an incarnation of Bill Hick's, you may want to let Bill's brother, Steve in on it.
He was doing a lot of pancreatic cancer fund raisers, I even saw him in Grand Rapids when he was promoting the documentary about Bill-----
Oh, and if you really think Alex Jones is Bill Hicks, you are whacked out of your fukkking skull. And you do know, Hicks is buried in Leakesville, MS, right?
Bill's so called brother is just a hired actor. Just ask Alex Jones, he knows all about stuff like this.
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ChuckyTheGoat
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#52
Originally posted by gauchojake
Jake, cool photo. Pardon my ignorance, plz explain the meaning of this photo to me.
Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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TheMoneyShot
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#53
The world will always be based on "entertainment". Look around you.... everything in life... revolves around a "hustle" tactic. You go and buy a car... the dealership promises you everything in the original price... but screws you when you come to the table... and bumps up the price. You go to close on a house... at the table... they "bump" up the interest rate. Tell me what isn't a hustle... or a form of entertainment in life?
As people... we love to be entertained. Alex Jones bumped up a lot of stories. Was he completely a 100% liar? No. Did he stretch the truth? Sure. Should we have a class action lawsuit against Vince McMahon because WWE matches are scripted and basically FAKE? McMahon didn't tell the truth to the world for the last 40 years or so.... that this isn't REAL. Yet he made a Billion dollar corporation based on your "Entertainment Value."
90% of the world is a pure hustle job to get you to spend. What did Alex Jones do wrong? Nothing more than what the Clinton's and Obama's and even what the Trumps did. Fact is fact.
Where exactly do you draw the line? As I'm typing this post... someone is losing their ass on a deal and lying. It's called a hustle. It's in the Entertainment world every single day.
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ChuckyTheGoat
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#54
Salud, Shot. "Jones" the character might be a dick for making those Sandy Hook comments. I'm still not sure what TANGIBLE damages he caused to the parents. Not cool to gravy-train your dead kids.
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KiDBaZkiT
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10-20-09
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#55
Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
Jake, cool photo. Pardon my ignorance, plz explain the meaning of this photo to me.
It’s from a Tool album that featured samples of Hicks. That is a picture of Hicks and and a character with Keenans face.
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ChuckyTheGoat
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#56
Been doing my research. I'm now convinced that this is true:
1) There's more than enough anecdotal evidence.
2) "Jones" has even hinted at it several times.
3) There is a clip of Hicks (circa 1993) testing out his GRAVELLY-VOICED persona. Sounds just like Jones.
This underhanded transition via Cancer would normally be viewed as "dick-move". Faking Cancer to garner empathy is not cool. But what happened in 1993 to precipitate this move?
Two things, IMHO:
1) Denis Leary making the Comedy tape "No Cure for Cancer". Hicks had been friends with Leary. History has proven Leary to be not so witty...but in fact a good performer. Comics are in agreement that Leary's album content is mostly material stolen directly from Hicks' act. The proof is out there.
2) After a series of successful appearances on the David Letterman Show, Letterman censored Hicks' October 1993 appearance. Letterman thought of it as too edgy, thought it might alienate some sponsors (although the banned piece was later aired and shown to be pretty tame).
If you piece it together, I think Hicks may well have been at a point in time where he was fed up with it. Hicks was well-read, surely he viewed himself as smart enough to be in top realm of comics.
Why should he generate material so that Leary could have commercial success? Why work on jokes that Letterman is going to censor? I really think Bill thought about an alternate approach with a chance to say "Fuk you" to all.
Go back to Bill's great clip on his world view. "Life is just a ride." And in this case, "Alex Jones" may just be a character in his sketch.
Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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slayer14
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#57
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bonzaii
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#58
Alex Jones is a con man.
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DiggityDaggityDo
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#59
Jury decides conspiracy theorist Alex Jones should pay nearly $1 billion in damages to Sandy Hook families for his lies about the school massacre
Far-right talk show host Alex Jones should pay eight families of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims and one first responder nearly $1 billion in compensatory damages, a Connecticut jury decided Wednesday, capping a wrenching weeks-long trial that put on display the serious harm inflicted by the conspiracy theorist's lies.
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DiggityDaggityDo
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#60
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slayer14
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#61
His life is basically ruined now
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bonzaii
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#62
Alex Jones is a scumbag. But a Billion dollars? Those people are retarded
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goduke
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#63
Originally posted by bonzaii
Alex Jones is a scumbag. But a Billion dollars? Those people are retarded
It’s not about the money it’s about preventing these type of people like Alex Jones doing this in the future without facing consequences. Most of these parents financially don’t care about this money, they’ve been invested in this for many years. But putting that number out there hopefully helps turn our culture away from these types of bullshit lies
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TheMoneyShot
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#64
CNN... The View... All BS con shows too. What people fail to see... in everyday life... you are being setup and conned...
They are just making an example out of Alex Jones. It's a shame.
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Demonata
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#65
He's allowed to say whatever the f he wants. I have even talked to him before. He's not worried at all.
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beefcake
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#66
Originally posted by goduke
It’s not about the money it’s about preventing these type of people like Alex Jones doing this in the future without facing consequences. Most of these parents financially don’t care about this money, they’ve been invested in this for many years. But putting that number out there hopefully helps turn our culture away from these types of bullshit lies
Couldn't agree more..
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beefcake
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#67
Originally posted by slayer14
His life is basically ruined now
And that is a beautiful thing..
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Demonata
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#68
The only people that support this are against free speech. Get sued for anything you say. Sad world we live in.
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Demonata
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#69
Joe Biden should be sued for saying maga Republicans are a threat to democracy then. Pain and suffering for half the country! Sue all the left wing!
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Kermit
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#70
I am not fan of Jones at all, and I think that he is nothing more than a comical buffoon.
But a billion dollars for verbal harassment? That kind of money doesn't even get paid out when people are killed due to blatant negligence.
We had celebrities and ranking officials cheering on and bailing out violent "protesters" during the 2020 summer of riots that led to dozens of deaths and billions in damage. Those people were never held accountable for what they said and did.