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  • pokernight1991
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    • 04-11-07
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    #36
    There is no God but God and Muhammad is His messenger.
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    • Gonad
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      #37
      So God aligns thousands of people on each side of a bet in order to impart wisdom to them? Our species can't even make it to the planet next to us, always amusing to hear that we've figured out the inner workings of an eternal creator. And he's watching the games!
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      • Jowframs
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        #38
        I love all you guys
        I prayed for ya
        Good Night
        God bless
        🙏🙏🙏
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        • thinwhiteduke
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          #39
          Originally posted by Jowframs
          Pretty smart book
          Look around
          End times
          Midst of birth pains
          All that means is the people that wrote th book were telling you what they intended to do and used a good vs bad fiction to sell it.

          Yes, what's happening now was planned.
          Good vs bad is a construct.
          There's no bad,, just people who beat others to power.
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          • Ghenghis Kahn
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            #40
            Doesn't the bible say gambling is a sin?

            If you believe in god and fear god, you shouldn't gamble since it's a sin

            Otherwise, just pick winners and everything will be fine
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            • stevenash
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              #41
              Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
              Doesn't the bible say gambling is a sin?

              If you believe in god and fear god, you shouldn't gamble since it's a sin

              Otherwise, just pick winners and everything will be fine
              Not directly.
              Proverbs 13:11 says "Wealth gained hastily will dwindle, but whoever gathers little by little will increase it"

              Gambling is implied again in Ecclesiastes 5:10 "He who loves money will not be satisfied with money, not he who loves wealth with his income, this also is vanity"







              Today is Holy Thursday, the Last Supper
              Jesus died for your sins, honor Him.
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              • flyingillini
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                • 12-06-06
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                #42
                Christ is king
                המוסד‎
                המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                • stevenash
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by flyingillini
                  Christ is king
                  The meek shall inherit the Earth.
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                  • Snowball
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                    #44
                    There is enough here to read and ponder about for weeks. I simply wanted to present the links here for those of you interested in reading, learning and thinking moreabout this period, from the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ to the Seige of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.
                    There was so much taking place. Many sects were at odds. The Galileans were at odds with the Saducees (many of which were Hasmoneans), and it would appear certain Pharisees became Christians, or sympathizers at the very least (Saul/Paul, Nicodemus, Gamaliel, others...) as did Romans, Greeks, and Jews. The Pharisees, according to Josephus, slew the Hasmonean priests in the temple in A.D. 63. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees ). They objected to the murder of James The Great, Bishop of Jerusalem. There were so many signs, portents and strife, and civilization-changing events taking place.. what was YHWH doing? Changing the world.


                    Talmudic Evidence for the Messiah at 30 C.E.

                    This page explores the fascinating signs documented in the Talmud that preceded the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD. Discover the mysteries of the crimson thread, the inexplicable temple doors, and the extinguished Menorah light. Was 30 AD a turning point? Explore the evidence and decide for yourself.



                    Ancient Temple Signs and Signs of the Last Days
                    Unusual signs in the ministry of the priests




                    A rabbi tries to offer explanations regarding one of the Yomas, 39, but for a number of reasons, his explanations are misleading and incorrect.
                    He says there was two strips of crimson, but the only relevant one is the strip on the temple door, which did not turn white. He also doesn't mention the extreme effort in which the Saducee priests and sages tried to cover up this fact, as the people were upset, and too inquisitive. Consider:

                    "Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: The ordinance was with regard to the strip of crimson wool used on Yom Kippur. As it is taught in a baraita: At first they would tie a strip of crimson wool to the opening of the Entrance Hall of the Temple on the outside. If, after the sacrificing of the offerings and the sending of the scapegoat, the strip turned white, the people would rejoice, as this indicated that their sins had been atoned for. If it did not turn white they would be sad. When the Sages saw that people were overly distressed on Yom Kippur, they instituted that they should tie the strip of crimson wool to the opening of the Entrance Hall on the inside, where only a few could enter to see it.

                    But people would still peek and see it, and once again, if it turned white they would rejoice, and if it did not turn white they would be sad. Therefore, the Sages instituted that they should tie half of the strip to a rock near the place where the one who sent the scapegoat stood and half of it between the horns of the scapegoat, so that the people would not know what happened to the strip until after the conclusion of Yom Kippur. This ordinance was instituted by Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai."

                    Rosh Hashanah 31b
                    The William Davidson Talmud (Koren - Steinsaltz)

                    Rav Naḥman bar Yitzḥak said: The ordinance was with regard to the strip of crimson wool used on Yom Kippur. As it is taught in a baraita: At first they would...




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                    "10. Therefore when many even of the rulers believed, there was a commotion among the Jews and Scribes and Pharisees, who said that there was danger that the whole people would be looking for Jesus as the Christ. Coming therefore in a body to James they said, We entreat thee, restrain the people; for they are gone astray in regard to Jesus, as if he were the Christ. [500] We entreat thee to persuade all that have come to the feast of the Passover concerning Jesus; for we all have confidence in thee. For we bear thee witness, as do all the people, that thou art just, and dost not respect persons. [501]

                    11. Do thou therefore persuade the multitude not to be led astray concerning Jesus. For the whole people, and all of us also, have confidence in thee. Stand therefore upon the pinnacle of the temple, [502] that from that high position thou mayest be clearly seen, and that thy words may be readily heard by all the people. For all the tribes, with the Gentiles also, are come together on account of the Passover.'

                    12. The aforesaid Scribes and Pharisees therefore placed James upon the pinnacle of the temple, and cried out to him and said: Thou just one, in whom we ought all to have confidence, forasmuch as the people are led astray after Jesus, the crucified one, declare to us, what is the gate of Jesus.' [503]

                    13. And he answered with a loud voice, Why do ye ask me concerning Jesus, the Son of Man? He himself sitteth in heaven at the right hand of the great Power, and is about to come upon the clouds of heaven.' [504]

                    14. And when many were fully convinced and gloried in the testimony of James, and said, Hosanna to the Son of David,' these same Scribes and Pharisees said again to one another, We have done badly in supplying such testimony to Jesus. But let us go up and throw him down, in order that they may be afraid to believe him.'

                    15. And they cried out, saying, Oh! oh! the just man is also in error.' And they fulfilled the Scripture written in Isaiah, [505] Let us take away [506] the just man, because he is troublesome to us: therefore they shall eat the fruit of their doings.'

                    16. So they went up and threw down the just man, and said to each other, Let us stone James the Just.' And they began to stone him, for he was not killed by the fall; but he turned and knelt down and said, I entreat thee, Lord God our Father, [507] forgive them, for they know not what they do.' [508]"

                    Church History — Eusebius Pamphilius


                    Read:

                    CONCERNING ALBINUS UNDER WHOSE PROCURATORSHIP JAMES WAS SLAIN; AS ALSO WHAT EDIFICES WERE BUILT BY AGRIPPA.
                    Flavius Josephus, The Wars of the Jews VI.V.III
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                    • Jowframs
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by stevenash
                      Not directly.
                      Proverbs 13:11 says "Wealth gained hastily will dwindle, but whoever gathers little by little will increase it"

                      Gambling is implied again in Ecclesiastes 5:10 "He who loves money will not be satisfied with money, not he who loves wealth with his income, this also is vanity"







                      Today is Holy Thursday, the Last Supper
                      Jesus died for your sins, honor Him.
                      Well spoken
                      Besides like anything
                      If it consumes your life it’s a sin
                      Put God first!
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                      • BeatTheJerk
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Jowframs
                        Well spoken
                        Besides like anything
                        If it consumes your life it’s a sin
                        Put God first!
                        Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                        In my little moral book, if gambling doesn’t consume your life in a negative way then it’s not a sin. Just like any other thing in life, alcohol, drugs, money or even food. Not saying I’m right and everyone else is wrong who disagrees, that’s just my belief and I will take it to my grave and then my judgment.

                        I already pointed that out.
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                        • Jowframs
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                          #47
                          Yes you did
                          Great job
                          Just reiterated it
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                          • Ghenghis Kahn
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                            #48
                            For all you religious folks, explain to me kids that have memories of their past lives.

                            Sorry to burst your bubbles but there's no heaven and hell.
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                            • Jowframs
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                              For all you religious folks, explain to me kids that have memories of their past lives.

                              Sorry to burst your bubbles but there's no heaven and hell.
                              Tell that to God when ya die
                              Every knee will bow
                              I guess we came from a turnip
                              God bless you
                              May you see the light
                              Instead of darkness
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                              • d2bets
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by Jowframs
                                Tell that to God when ya die
                                Every knee will bow
                                I guess we came from a turnip
                                God bless you
                                May you see the light
                                Instead of darkness
                                Math Science History
                                Unraveling The Mystery
                                It All Started With a Big Bang
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                                • Jowframs
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                                  #51
                                  Yeah Big Bang
                                  Sperm fertilizeing the egg
                                  Then you have the spirit of god
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                                  • BeatTheJerk
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                    For all you religious folks, explain to me kids that have memories of their past lives.

                                    Sorry to burst your bubbles but there's no heaven and hell.
                                    Why does one party have to be right & one party have to be wrong while we are here on earth ? Why can’t we as people, believers & non-believers just have our opinions & go our fuckin’ separate ways ? Both parties won’t know until that moment arrives. This is the problem with most Christians, they wanna tell the whole world what is so, & judge you for not feeling the same way. Don’t be that guy, don’t be who you despise. (BTW I’m a Christian, but not your typical one).
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                      Why does one party have to be right & one party have to be wrong while we are here on earth ? Why can’t we as people, believers & non-believers just have our opinions & go our fuckin’ separate ways ? Both parties won’t know until that moment arrives. This is the problem with most Christians, they wanna tell the whole world what is so, & judge you for not feeling the same way. Don’t be that guy, don’t be who you despise. (BTW I’m a Christian, but not your typical one).
                                      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's a core tenet of Christianity and most religions to "spread the word".
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                                      • BeatTheJerk
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's a core tenet of Christianity and most religions to "spread the word".
                                        Spreading the word is fine, but my point was to judge others who believe in something else is wrong.
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                                        • The Kraken
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                          Why does one party have to be right & one party have to be wrong while we are here on earth ? Why can’t we as people, believers & non-believers just have our opinions & go our fuckin’ separate ways ? Both parties won’t know until that moment arrives. This is the problem with most Christians, they wanna tell the whole world what is so, & judge you for not feeling the same way. Don’t be that guy, don’t be who you despise. (BTW I’m a Christian, but not your typical one).
                                          The central core of Christianity is faith.

                                          Faith can only exist when something is not known for certain. And this is where faith comes into play, it bridges the gap of what we know and what we don't know. Christians choose to believe. They profess faith in the unknown.

                                          A lot like my child believes in Santa and the Easter Bunny. And there is hard proof both exist. Presents under the tree, eggs in the yard, etc....

                                          To have faith like a child. Ignorance truly is bliss.
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                            The central core of Christianity is faith.

                                            Faith can only exist when something is not known for certain. And this is where faith comes into play, it bridges the gap of what we know and what we don't know. Christians choose to believe. They profess faith in the unknown.

                                            A lot like my child believes in Santa and the Easter Bunny. And there is hard proof both exist. Presents under the tree, eggs in the yard, etc....

                                            To have faith like a child. Ignorance truly is bliss.
                                            That’s absolutely fine you can believe that, I have no problem with you. If God doesn’t exist & my “faith” is wrong, then you & I are going to the same exact place (no where) after our demise. If God does exist then you & I will be going to different places after we are done here on earth. As a degenerate would say “I’m playing with house money”, that’s how I kind of feel with this situation & topic.
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                                            • BeatTheJerk
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                                              #57
                                              I mean following the 10 Commandments in the Bible is not really a bad way to live your life. Although I fall short on some of those commandments on a weekly/monthly basis.
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                                              • Jowframs
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                I mean following the 10 Commandments in the Bible is not really a bad way to live your life. Although I fall short on some of those commandments on a weekly/monthly basis.
                                                We all are sinners
                                                It’s how we handle it
                                                Is what counts
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                                                • The Kraken
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                  That’s absolutely fine you can believe that, I have no problem with you. If God doesn’t exist & my “faith” is wrong, then you & I are going to the same exact place (no where) after our demise. If God does exist then you & I will be going to different places after we are done here on earth. As a degenerate would say “I’m playing with house money”, that’s how I kind of feel with this situation & topic.
                                                  I think your position is exactly the position of most Christians today in the world.

                                                  Believing is considered playing with house money, or as nothing more than an insurance policy just in case god is real.

                                                  And I believe that is why there is a complete lack of morals with a lot of Christians.
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                                                  • The Kraken
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                    I mean following the 10 Commandments in the Bible is not really a bad way to live your life. Although I fall short on some of those commandments on a weekly/monthly basis.
                                                    Agree. The bible is a great book to use as a guide for living what should be considered an honorable life.

                                                    Unfortunately, the religious aspect of it ruins the book imo
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                      That’s absolutely fine you can believe that, I have no problem with you. If God doesn’t exist & my “faith” is wrong, then you & I are going to the same exact place (no where) after our demise. If God does exist then you & I will be going to different places after we are done here on earth. As a degenerate would say “I’m playing with house money”, that’s how I kind of feel with this situation & topic.
                                                      But wouldn't an all-knowing God know that you are playing that game and judge you accordingly? Doesn't sound like "true" faith. Sounds like a bargain you've made.
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                                                      • d2bets
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                        Agree. The bible is a great book to use as a guide for living what should be considered an honorable life.

                                                        Unfortunately, the religious aspect of it ruins the book imo
                                                        Eh, I'm pretty sure one could make a better guide now without much difficulty.

                                                        Why rely on a book and knowledge that is thousands of years out of date.

                                                        We need a modern bible. Even "though shall not kill" needs some nuance. Does assisted suicide violate? It shouldn't.
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                                                        • BeatTheJerk
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          But wouldn't an all-knowing God know that you are playing that game and judge you accordingly? Doesn't sound like "true" faith. Sounds like a bargain you've made.
                                                          I believe he is real. I accepted God’s son Jesus into my heart & we have a private holy relationship together. I pray to him, I talk to him, I curse him as crazy as it may sound. He knows my true feelings on this matter. To reiterate yes, sometimes I “curse” him & ask him why is this life or my life at times so f u c k e d up & lost. At the end of the day he will not condemn me for it if he is “real”. Like I said I’m a Christian & I ask for forgiveness to my wrong doings to him & others.
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                                                          • BeatTheJerk
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                            I think your position is exactly the position of most Christians today in the world.

                                                            Believing is considered playing with house money, or as nothing more than an insurance policy just in case god is real.

                                                            And I believe that is why there is a complete lack of morals with a lot of Christians.
                                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                            Agree. The bible is a great book to use as a guide for living what should be considered an honorable life.

                                                            Unfortunately, the religious aspect of it ruins the book imo
                                                            Kraken we are good pal, I have no qualms with you & your position on this matter.
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                                                            • KVB
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                                                              #65
                                                              Pragmatic bible aside, one thing I don't see mentioned here is the intangible.

                                                              Faith.

                                                              It has a profound effect on humanity. And that is something that can't be ignored.

                                                              If one does not have faith, then all one that does have faith have can tell them is to take the leap of faith.

                                                              For those that don't have faith, they have to realize there is something out there that they don't understand.

                                                              The funny thing is, while those with fatih can be vocal, it's those without that seem to be the loudest.

                                                              I've always found that the similaritied in humans and behavior are way more fascianting than the differences.

                                                              It's exploiting those similarities that allow, for example, some of us to exploit markets, like sports.

                                                              Yes, I was an avid student of psychology, psychobiology, and philosophy. Two of my favorite subjects in college were history of science and history of religion.

                                                              I also know what it's like to take debate the leap of faith, take the leap of faith, and let that fire burn low as well.
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                                                              • KVB
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                                                                #66
                                                                In teaching and advising gamblers over more than two decades, I have often said that the best gambler in the world is not the math expert or major.

                                                                The best gambler in the world has the psychology major, with the minor in math. (Degrees not necessary, I'm making a point).

                                                                After all this time, I still believe this is true.

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                                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                                  Why does one party have to be right & one party have to be wrong while we are here on earth ? Why can’t we as people, believers & non-believers just have our opinions & go our fuckin’ separate ways ? Both parties won’t know until that moment arrives. This is the problem with most Christians, they wanna tell the whole world what is so, & judge you for not feeling the same way. Don’t be that guy, don’t be who you despise. (BTW I’m a Christian, but not your typical one).
                                                                  Hey pal, I don't despise religious people. Most of my friends are Christians or Catholics. I just like to let people know that there are other views that might be right. I just hate when Jesus freaks say shit like "Jesus is the only way"

                                                                  I'm looking into astral planes and astral projections lately and it's insane what people see there. And let me tell you, it's not pleasant
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                                                                  • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                    Hey pal, I don't despise religious people. Most of my friends are Christians or Catholics. I just like to let people know that there are other views that might be right. I just hate when Jesus freaks say shit like "Jesus is the only way"

                                                                    I'm looking into astral planes and astral projections lately and it's insane what people see there. And let me tell you, it's not pleasant
                                                                    Well I’m not one of those Christians. You can believe whatever you want & live your life according to what best fits your views & values.
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                                                                    • louisvillekid
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      Anyone that gambles is breaking the rules as far as if they’re Catholic
                                                                      penetrating hilarious. The Catholic Church's main A,B.C's are alcohol, bingo and cigarettes. Catholic church picnics, or festivals, are just one big party of drinking, smoking, and gambling.
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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                                        In teaching and advising gamblers over more than two decades, I have often said that the best gambler in the world is not the math expert or major.

                                                                        The best gambler in the world has the psychology major, with the minor in math. (Degrees not necessary, I'm making a point).

                                                                        After all this time, I still believe this is true.

                                                                        Not really sure how to define "the best gambler in the world". I think one's "best gambling self" depends on a lot of different variables -- funding, time, discipline, location and access and technology, all in addition to psychology and math. What's best for one might not be best for another.
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