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  • Sanity Check
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-30-13
    • 10962

    #1
    is the rest of the world demoralized
    When europe feared invasion from russia -- the united states was there to save the day.


    The american military was there to protect the interests of australians, europeans and asians. America protected people in countries around the world most people couldn't find on a map.

    Over time military forces of europe and asia decreased defense spending. They cut the size and strength of their military under the assumption they would always have big daddy USA to protect them.


    Until one day when big daddy USA abandoned afghanistan and showed the entire world they could no longer be relied upon to defend anyone.


    Much of the world scaled back to skeleton crewed, poorly equipped, militaries who might not have a prayer of holding back a chinese-russian invasion.


    Who do they turn to if they can no longer rely on americans to defend them and their interests. How did they get duped into thinking they could rely on foreigners to defend their own sovereign interests.


    How do people see this playing out over the long term?
  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #2
    usa invested 2 trillion dollars thousands of lives and the afghan army didn't even put up a fight shows we never should of been there in the first place

    fuk em
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    • flyingillini
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 41219

      #3
      America needs to worry about America.
      המוסד‎
      המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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      • PackerBacker
        SBR Sharp
        • 08-17-11
        • 387

        #4
        How do people see this playing out over the long term?

        As long as this country has a President with the cognitive ability of a 10 year old...we're DOOMED!
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        • MinnesotaFats
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-18-10
          • 14758

          #5
          It's a human rights disaster

          Woman are literally being gunned down in front of journalists for not wearing burkas

          Children are being beaten for wearing shorts and going to school

          The world is demoralized because Joe Biden has the worst human rights and humanitarian disaster of the 21st century on his hands.

          He has the blood of women and children on his hands.

          Bidens America is no longer the future, the beacon...it is the past, his image and legacy is that of a candle that burnt out.

          A ship that is sinking, while the captain sleeps...literally while on vacation.

          Nero has nothing on the incompetence of Joe Biden & Kamela Harris.

          He is finished and really should resign...it's the only honorable thing to do.
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          • Roger T. Bannon
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-28-18
            • 5139

            #6
            Nobody cares about Afghanistan. If they did, they would not be dirt poor. There is nothing there worth having except the stuff they put in cellphones which is really valuable. But the Chinese are just going to take it without any combat. They don't give a shit.
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            • Roger T. Bannon
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-28-18
              • 5139

              #7
              The way it is going to turn out is that the US is running out of countries to F up. Thye F'd up Eastern Europe. They F'd up Latin America. They F'd up Haiti. Nobody wants to let them F up anymore. They cannot even get anything going in Venezuela or Cuba. They would rather be run by the guys that got than get screwed over by the US.

              The US is going to now try to figure out how to keep from collapsing because they have screwed up so much that they are starting to fall apart and now electing abject morons as presidents. We will soon be electing exclusively celebrities.
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              • cincinnatikid513
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-23-17
                • 45360

                #8
                usa should worry about usa fix roads bridges broken health care
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                • deltgen
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-31-10
                  • 865

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                  usa invested 2 trillion dollars thousands of lives and the afghan army didn't even put up a fight shows we never should of been there in the first place

                  fuk em
                  "We shouldn't have been there in the first place" is about the stupidest answer ever to the question about what's going on in Afghanistan. If you want to argue the point about if we should have been there, fine, but the fact is that our country did go there and now we are letting those people hang out to dry.
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                  • cincinnatikid513
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-23-17
                    • 45360

                    #10
                    Originally posted by deltgen
                    "We shouldn't have been there in the first place" is about the stupidest answer ever to the question about what's going on in Afghanistan. If you want to argue the point about if we should have been there, fine, but the fact is that our country did go there and now we are letting those people hang out to dry.
                    piss on them shithole country like haiti
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                    • Roger T. Bannon
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-28-18
                      • 5139

                      #11
                      Originally posted by deltgen
                      "We shouldn't have been there in the first place" is about the stupidest answer ever to the question about what's going on in Afghanistan. If you want to argue the point about if we should have been there, fine, but the fact is that our country did go there and now we are letting those people hang out to dry.
                      You did not have to invade a country to get 8 guys holed up in a cave. You could have paid the Afghans to kill them. The whole thing was just a show and way to spend a lot of money and you got suckered. Now you are seeing everything that you supported coming apart and wishing it was different. It's just another in a long line of humiliations.
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                      • Clutchut12
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-20-16
                        • 3632

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                        usa should worry about usa fix roads bridges broken health care
                        Typical liberal stupid ass points!! His next post will be about climate change,gay persecution and BLM!!
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                        • deltgen
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 12-31-10
                          • 865

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                          You did not have to invade a country to get 8 guys holed up in a cave. You could have paid the Afghans to kill them. The whole thing was just a show and way to spend a lot of money and you got suckered. Now you are seeing everything that you supported coming apart and wishing it was different. It's just another in a long line of humiliations.
                          You're misunderstanding my point. We'll disagree about if the US should have invaded in the first place, and that's fine, but my point is that that has no bearing on what is going on now.
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                          • cincinnatikid513
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-23-17
                            • 45360

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Clutchut12
                            Typical liberal stupid ass points!! His next post will be about climate change,gay persecution and BLM!!
                            who the fuk are u a nobody broke bitch needs a loan renew pro status cant afford 100
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                            • Roger T. Bannon
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-28-18
                              • 5139

                              #15
                              Originally posted by deltgen
                              You're misunderstanding my point. We'll disagree about if the US should have invaded in the first place, and that's fine, but my point is that that has no bearing on what is going on now.
                              What do you think would be different? You think Trump was going to bring a lot of Afghans to the US? How long does the military need to prepare for a withdrawal? 10 years? Trump announced this way before the election. It is August. Nothing was going to be different. Biden is not calling the shots.

                              A couple of people fell off a plane and Afghans are getting sold out. Nothing really happening that should not be expected. Did you think the Taliban was not going to take over? You have not been paying attention. We have made zero progress against the Taliban in 20 years. We are fighting guys that were kids back then.
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                              • MinnesotaFats
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-18-10
                                • 14758

                                #16
                                Originally posted by deltgen
                                You're misunderstanding my point. We'll disagree about if the US should have invaded in the first place, and that's fine, but my point is that that has no bearing on what is going on now.
                                Exactly

                                In for a penny, in for a pound

                                The full faith (and credit) of the US Government has just been marginalized
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                                • Roger T. Bannon
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-28-18
                                  • 5139

                                  #17
                                  Unfortunately, you guys are fighting the last war as all has beens do. The world has changed. The US had its run because the rest of the world screwed up for a long time. They have their act together now more. The US is becoming what it has always been. Just another country on the globe with its own problems. We got lucky there for a while and tried to solve all the world's problems but we F'd it up beyond belief. You don't get second chances. Those losses are permanent. Time to move on.
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                                  • Clutchut12
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-20-16
                                    • 3632

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                    who the fuk are u a nobody broke bitch needs a loan renew pro status cant afford 100
                                    I’m someone who has a life and don’t spend every second of my life on here like a fkin loser!!!How embarrassing that u have 43000 post. No wonder your a lib probably a 500 pound loser collecting government checks!!!
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                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-23-17
                                      • 45360

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Clutchut12
                                      I’m someone who has a life and don’t spend every second of my life on here like a fkin loser!!!How embarrassing that u have 43000 post. No wonder your a lib probably a 500 pound loser collecting government checks!!!
                                      i can at least afford pay 100 to renew each year keep being a loser like rickie u bum
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                                      • TheGoldenGoose
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-27-12
                                        • 3745

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                        usa should worry about usa fix roads bridges broken health care
                                        True dat !!!

                                        Not the USA's job to be the Worlds Police Force.
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                                        • Clutchut12
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-20-16
                                          • 3632

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                          i can at least afford pay 100 to renew each year keep being a loser like rickie u bum
                                          I think we all know who the biggest loser on the forum is. Someone who post 100 times a day and who’s world revolves around this place!! Sad bud get a hobby.
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                                          • Andy117
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-07-10
                                            • 9511

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                            It's a human rights disaster

                                            Woman are literally being gunned down in front of journalists for not wearing burkas

                                            Children are being beaten for wearing shorts and going to school

                                            The world is demoralized because Joe Biden has the worst human rights and humanitarian disaster of the 21st century on his hands.

                                            He has the blood of women and children on his hands.

                                            Bidens America is no longer the future, the beacon...it is the past, his image and legacy is that of a candle that burnt out.

                                            A ship that is sinking, while the captain sleeps...literally while on vacation.

                                            Nero has nothing on the incompetence of Joe Biden & Kamela Harris.

                                            He is finished and really should resign...it's the only honorable thing to do.
                                            Thought you were America First?

                                            Trump was bragging about getting us out of Afghanistan and that he got this started.
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                                            • Kermit
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-27-10
                                              • 32555

                                              #23
                                              We're going to be seeing horrific videos coming out of Islamic Emirates (New Afghanistan) in the upcoming days that are going to make this even worse.
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                                              • Kermit
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 09-27-10
                                                • 32555

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Andy117
                                                Thought you were America First?

                                                Trump was bragging about getting us out of Afghanistan and that he got this started.
                                                Every American wanted the US to get out of there, as we were making no difference unless we slaughtered everyone and started from fresh.

                                                The issue isn't the "Getting them out of there", it was how we did it.

                                                You start by getting all of your citizens out first, not leaving them behind after you pull out the military.
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                                                • MinnesotaFats
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-18-10
                                                  • 14758

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Andy117
                                                  Thought you were America First?

                                                  Trump was bragging about getting us out of Afghanistan and that he got this started.
                                                  If you follow the story, you'd know that Trump had Baradar agree to surrender the entire Taliban army (per his 2008 offer) in exchange for US withdrawal, democratic government support & shared military alliance.

                                                  That is why he was released from prison.

                                                  ...but then you get Democrat morons involved, pushing a ridiculous impeachment, Covid mass hysteria, election law changes and suddenly we elect the most incompetent buffoon to ever hold the office...and the entire Country collapses in 6 months...which isn't saying much given the US is about to collapse under Biden here as well if he doesn't resign.
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                                                  • Kermit
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 09-27-10
                                                    • 32555

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                    If you follow the story, you'd know that Trump had Baradar agree to surrender the entire Taliban army (per his 2008 offer) in exchange for US withdrawal, democratic government support & shared military alliance.

                                                    That is why he was released from prison.

                                                    ...but then you get Democrat morons involved, pushing a ridiculous impeachment, Covid mass hysteria, election law changes and suddenly we elect the most incompetent buffoon to ever hold the office...and the entire Country collapses in 6 months...which isn't saying much given the US is about to collapse under Biden here as well if he doesn't resign.
                                                    Truth right there.


                                                    And Trump would have blown them fukkers up while they were doing their photo op in the former Afghan's President's office.

                                                    Biden is nothing but a "pussy-footer" No country fears this man.
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                                                    • omega
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-20-14
                                                      • 1201

                                                      #27
                                                      China had a Communist Party member openly admit at a forum that they helped set up Biden's son's company in order to direct capital his way. This same Communist professor said that they could not control Trump, but they could control or "influence" Biden, ostensibly through his son and/or Wall Street.

                                                      The decision to betray Afghan allies in that manner helped the Communist alliance of China, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, etc... It made their enemy the US look weak and it frightened their allies.

                                                      China wants Taiwan to surrender and accept invasion instead of fighting back when China inevitably invades within the next 3 years. The Afghan betrayal will only convince Taiwan to surrender.

                                                      The transfer of high tech military to the "Taliban", which is really an alliance force of Pakistan, Russia, and China, will only help the Communist alliance. Massive number of guns, vehicles, airpower.

                                                      So why did Biden make a visible betrayal of Afghani allies, which helps the Communists?

                                                      Why did he transfer the arms and military vehicles to the Communist allies?

                                                      The answer is fairly clear.

                                                      We may have an American citizen in the White House, but the policy and decisions are all Communist.

                                                      It should sober you once you put it all together. The US is not immortal and our enemies only grow stronger each day.
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                                                      • Auto Donk
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-03-13
                                                        • 43558

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                        It's a human rights disaster

                                                        Woman are literally being gunned down in front of journalists for not wearing burkas

                                                        Children are being beaten for wearing shorts and going to school

                                                        The world is demoralized because Joe Biden has the worst human rights and humanitarian disaster of the 21st century on his hands.

                                                        He has the blood of women and children on his hands.

                                                        Bidens America is no longer the future, the beacon...it is the past, his image and legacy is that of a candle that burnt out.

                                                        A ship that is sinking, while the captain sleeps...literally while on vacation.

                                                        Nero has nothing on the incompetence of Joe Biden & Kamela Harris.

                                                        He is finished and really should resign...it's the only honorable thing to do.
                                                        extremely well put..... biden is a total disgrace....

                                                        a corrupt, ignorant (now senile) shell of his former pathetic, raping self, he is now the weakest president our nation has ever had to put up with, as his latest failure has him passing even jimmy f'n carter....

                                                        his mental state leaves him unable to do anything but read, or at least attempt to read, from teleprompters or note cards......

                                                        he needs to go......
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                                                        • Sanity Check
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-30-13
                                                          • 10962

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                          Woman are literally being gunned down in front of journalists for not wearing burkas

                                                          Children are being beaten for wearing shorts and going to school

                                                          The world is demoralized because Joe Biden has the worst human rights and humanitarian disaster of the 21st century on his hands.

                                                          The "worst human rights disaster of the 21st century."





                                                          (Above) ISIS put yazidi women in cages and burned them alive for refusing to be sex slaves.


                                                          If anything the taliban is showing less brutality to women and children than ISIS did.
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                                                          • mtneer1212
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                                                            • 06-22-08
                                                            • 4993

                                                            #30
                                                            here is the kicker that no one will talk about -- Russia will be working with the Taliban -- and extracting billions of precious metals, specifically lithium
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                                                            • MinnesotaFats
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-18-10
                                                              • 14758

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                              The "worst human rights disaster of the 21st century."





                                                              (Above) ISIS put yazidi women in cages and burned them alive for refusing to be sex slaves.


                                                              If anything the taliban is showing less brutality to women and children than ISIS did.
                                                              Was the bar set high for ISIS?

                                                              We are discussing the standards of the United States. Our promises & obligations. What we aspire to, what we inspire others to be, and the reality of Joe Biden, his incompetence and worse, his apathy for the situation.

                                                              It is the biggest 180 in the history of human rights and humanitarian efforts and it took Biden less than 6 months to become the most incompetent world leader in the history of civilized society.

                                                              Going from what the US was 6 months ago to what we are today in terms of prestige and faith abroad is the equivalent of driving a Porsche under Trump to riding bitch on a Schwinn under Biden.

                                                              He is that fukking bad...and the precipitous drop in US standards should alarm everyone. If you are still defending this guy & his politics you are absolutely fukking lost.
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                                                              • The Kraken
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 12-25-11
                                                                • 28918

                                                                #32
                                                                America is weaker united than divided

                                                                I say let the left teabag the right again bc clearly they forgot the lesson

                                                                And then we can move forward and get another hundred years of peace

                                                                We have all the technology, it'd be over within the week. There would be 10000 rednecks with a long gun in hand, two ar's slung over their shoulders, 3 pistols on the belt and millions of rounds of ammo. And bezos would send a drone and wipe em all out Us liberals would be chillin here in San Francisco eating our Michelin star food on the beach AND winning the war at the same time

                                                                Lets do it!
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                                                                • Sanity Check
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-30-13
                                                                  • 10962

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                                  It is the biggest 180 in the history of human rights and humanitarian efforts and it took Biden less than 6 months to become the most incompetent world leader in the history of civilized society.

                                                                  Going from what the US was 6 months ago to what we are today in terms of prestige and faith abroad is the equivalent of driving a Porsche under Trump to riding bitch on a Schwinn under Biden.

                                                                  He is that fukking bad...and the precipitous drop in US standards should alarm everyone. If you are still defending this guy & his politics you are absolutely fukking lost.

                                                                  This reminds me of people talking about George W Bush as if he were an evil mastermind orchestrating events with one breath.

                                                                  Then saying George W. Bush is derp beyond derp with the following breath.




                                                                  ...

                                                                  Biden is either extremely smart and capable, or he's not. He can't be both.
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                                                                  • slewfan
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-01-15
                                                                    • 15917

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The biggest threat to America and it's sovereignty are the democrats...
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                                                                    • edawg
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-09-11
                                                                      • 2820

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                      America is weaker united than divided

                                                                      I say let the left teabag the right again bc clearly they forgot the lesson

                                                                      And then we can move forward and get another hundred years of peace

                                                                      We have all the technology, it'd be over within the week. There would be 10000 rednecks with a long gun in hand, two ar's slung over their shoulders, 3 pistols on the belt and millions of rounds of ammo. And bezos would send a drone and wipe em all out Us liberals would be chillin here in San Francisco eating our Michelin star food on the beach AND winning the war at the same time

                                                                      Lets do it!
                                                                      That's exactly how the British thought until they were introduced to the Kentucky long rifle in 1775.
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