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  • slewfan
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    • 10-01-15
    • 15919

    #1
    Should college athletes be paid.?.
    We know many don't go to classes and do not even graduate. Yet, all by making billions for the schools they represent. Has it become a farce calling them students.?

    This may be an old argument, but its coming to fruition to find a solution.


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  • The Kraken
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    • 12-25-11
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    #2
    ofc they should, is it really even up for debate??? Kavanaugh said it best
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    • hawkwind
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      • 04-25-11
      • 4058

      #3
      NO
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      • Zlaniner
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        • 08-12-19
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        #4
        YES
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        • KVB
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          • 05-29-14
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          #5
          Lol they already get paid to play, might as well pay them for use of their ”likeness”
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          • slewfan
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            • 10-01-15
            • 15919

            #6
            I get mixed feelings about it.. Maybe make them the farm clubs like suggested. This way scholarships can be given to those who deserve them scholastically…

            Then it would ruin college sports as we know it, but why would that be bad.. It has become common knowledge that many don’t graduate. They are getting over a hundred grand in room, board, the few classes they take…

            What about all the billions they (athletes) bring in.. With all that money going around, Why do kids parents have to pay such exorbitant prices for their kids to get continuing education… I’m talking about those who were not born with physical attributes… Isn’t that a form of discrimination.?. Someone with D’s can get a scholarship over someone with A’s because they can run the hundred in 9.2 seconds..?.

            Maybe it’s an old argument and nobody cares any more… Colleges today prefer to indoctrinate, instead of creating thought provoking and intellectual classrooms.. The athletes are easier to control until their time being pampered by the alumni is up…
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            • KVB
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              • 05-29-14
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              #7
              I've met hudreds of college athletes across major Pac 12 schools, they nearly all got paid to play.

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              • slewfan
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                • 10-01-15
                • 15919

                #8
                Originally posted by KVB
                I've met hudreds of college athletes across major Pac 12 schools, they nearly all got paid to play.

                Never doubted it. When athletes think they are better than everyone else, changes need to be made.. They are no better than anyone else and in many cases worse than those without the propensity for sports..
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                • Swaggy P
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                  • 01-28-14
                  • 1091

                  #9
                  Definitely. These colleges are raping the players so far.
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                  • HockeyRocks
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                    • 07-10-13
                    • 6069

                    #10
                    Should Athlete's be paid, of course the should, then they should be required to turn around and pay off there college tuition with the the money they make.
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                    • WinDove
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                      • 07-21-19
                      • 215

                      #11
                      If they are working they should get paid of course,
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                      • MinnesotaFats
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                        • 12-18-10
                        • 14758

                        #12
                        If they get paid, then they are not amateurs. They are professionals, and as such, not eligible for play in NCAA events.

                        Everyone is missing this point.

                        You wanna get paid, then go be a pro.
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                        • The Kraken
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                          • 12-25-11
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                          If they get paid, then they are not amateurs. They are professionals, and as such, not eligible for play in NCAA events.

                          Everyone is missing this point.

                          You wanna get paid, then go be a pro.
                          Bet you a $1000 you're 100% wrong

                          Ironically, you're the only one missing the point
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                          • Roger T. Bannon
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                            • 06-28-18
                            • 5139

                            #14
                            The NFL and NCAA are government protected monopolies. All of the players would be paid if the system was not rigged. There would be a lot more professional teams.

                            Coaches make over $200,000 per starter on the team. Of course, they should be paid.

                            Coaches makes millions for not coaching but fans freak out about black guys getting paid.
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                            • Roger T. Bannon
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                              • 06-28-18
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by slewfan
                              I get mixed feelings about it.. Maybe make them the farm clubs like suggested. This way scholarships can be given to those who deserve them scholastically…

                              Then it would ruin college sports as we know it, but why would that be bad.. It has become common knowledge that many don’t graduate. They are getting over a hundred grand in room, board, the few classes they take…

                              What about all the billions they (athletes) bring in.. With all that money going around, Why do kids parents have to pay such exorbitant prices for their kids to get continuing education… I’m talking about those who were not born with physical attributes… Isn’t that a form of discrimination.?. Someone with D’s can get a scholarship over someone with A’s because they can run the hundred in 9.2 seconds..?.

                              Maybe it’s an old argument and nobody cares any more… Colleges today prefer to indoctrinate, instead of creating thought provoking and intellectual classrooms.. The athletes are easier to control until their time being pampered by the alumni is up…
                              Which are you going to choose, to watch Michigan play with non-scholarship players with a bunch of white guys or watch them play with black guys that make $200,000? They are playing professional football. They are not educating anybody.

                              If you want to take off the "scholarship" go right ahead. Watch the teams that cost $100,000 go 0-12 while Texas State goes 12-0.
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                              • Roger T. Bannon
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                                • 06-28-18
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                                #16
                                The first thing guys that do not want players to be paid will do once they start getting paid is start bitching that their team is not paying enough.
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                                • Roger T. Bannon
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                                  • 06-28-18
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                                  #17
                                  Here is what "scholarship" football gets you. When teams have a player that qualifies for a Pell grant, they have the player apply for aid. They get it based on financial need. Guess where that money goes -- to the school. And guess where that money goes -- to the head coach.

                                  And guess who do not get a Pell grant because Nick Saban got one?
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                                  • MinnesotaFats
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                                    • 12-18-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                    Bet you a $1000 you're 100% wrong

                                    Ironically, you're the only one missing the point
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                                    Here's the rule for ncaa... it's that simple.

                                    If you get paid you're not an amateur, and you're not eligible to participate.

                                    Courts ruling doesn't impact anything as far as ncaa is concerned, if schools pay kids, then they won't be ncaa eligible.
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                                    • MinnesotaFats
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                                      • 12-18-10
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                                      #19
                                      toshiba laptop satellite keyboard problems
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                                      • Roger T. Bannon
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                                        • 06-28-18
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                                        #20
                                        This ruling doesn't impact anything. But they are going to bring other cases.
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                                        • Roger T. Bannon
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                                          • 06-28-18
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                                          #21
                                          This will not be as big of a deal as California and Florida already passing legislation that says the NCAA can't stop their players from getting paid for endorsements. Texas panicked about what it might do to their schools and passed it too or are going to. It is a done deal.

                                          So now you have the three most important states players getting paid.

                                          If you read team previews, guys are transferring all over. Some of them for no apparent reason other than they are getting more money. So now the shoe companies are going to start telling guys where to transfer to get more playing time and how much they will pay them for each school that they choose. They will only tell them to transfer to schools they have a contract with.

                                          You are going to start to see guys like Shenault at Colorado who was wasting his time there start transferring to LSU and the shoe company will pay him $50,000 more to do it.

                                          I think the schools are probably going to start to want to pay the players instead of Nike giving them players.
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                                          • slewfan
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                                            • 10-01-15
                                            • 15919

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                            Which are you going to choose, to watch Michigan play with non-scholarship players with a bunch of white guys or watch them play with black guys that make $200,000? They are playing professional football. They are not educating anybody.

                                            If you want to take off the "scholarship" go right ahead. Watch the teams that cost $100,000 go 0-12 while Texas State goes 12-0.
                                            Honestly, when they started using pro athletes in the Olympics, my respect for sports disappeared.. We need to send Pro Basketball players there to embarrass other countries..?.. Nothing to be proud of there..

                                            The complaint was that Europe sends their pro’s.. So what. They took it away from the Amateur American kids who had a chance to prove the athletic ability of American youth..

                                            I don’t care if they pay College kids any longer. Most sports suck anyway .. Sports has become a breeding ground for elitism and in many cases, sheer stupidity..
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                                            • Roger T. Bannon
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                                              • 06-28-18
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by slewfan
                                              Honestly, when they started using pro athletes in the Olympics, my respect for sports disappeared.. We need to send Pro Basketball players there to embarrass other countries..?.. Nothing to be proud of there..

                                              The complaint was that Europe sends their pro’s.. So what. They took it away from the Amateur American kids who had a chance to prove the athletic ability of American youth..

                                              I don’t care if they pay College kids any longer. Most sports suck anyway .. Sports has become a breeding ground for elitism and in many cases, sheer stupidity..
                                              It's big business. The Olympics is supposed to be the best athletes right? Do you think the Greeks cared about amateurism?

                                              Amateurism is a con. If they are selling tickets and putting it on TV, it is not amateurism.
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                                              • slewfan
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                                                • 10-01-15
                                                • 15919

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                It's big business. The Olympics is supposed to be the best athletes right? Do you think the Greeks cared about amateurism?

                                                Amateurism is a con. If they are selling tickets and putting it on TV, it is not amateurism.
                                                Yeh, I hear where that’s coming from… I would rather our College players compete though.. It just seems more fair.. Unless of course, it’s so political, if a country loses, they could get bombed or invaded..

                                                Concerning the Greeks, I don’t think they had professional sports brats who make 100 million, want to play in the Olympics, but don’t spend a dime of their own money… Pro’ athletes, sportsmanship and respect do not signify today’s Athletics…
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