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  • Vyasports
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-27-19
    • 4946

    #1
    Need advice about gluing steel to concrete [you can saloon it later thanks]
    is using baking soda + super glue a good idea to glue steel bar into a concrete hole ?
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    What type of weight will be applied to the steel pole?
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    • Vyasports
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-27-19
      • 4946

      #3
      the steel pole will be 32 inches max vertical
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      • Vyasports
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-27-19
        • 4946

        #4
        but is it a gud idea or shud I just use epoxy?
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        • 19th Hole
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-22-09
          • 18951

          #5
          ORIGINAL GORILLA GLUE

          ~~~~~~~`
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63167

            #6
            you've come to the right place. With engineers like Pavyracer, JJGold and myself. we'll have you set right away

            we have no idea if this is indoor outdoor, your current weather conditions, depth of hole, circumference of the hole/steel pole, is pole hollow or solid, will pole undertake any force? so some more detail on what you are looking to do would be helpful.

            no matter what, I'd first suggest you just look into some cheap two part epoxy mixes that you can get in any retail home improvement or painting store, it's not a huge step up. But no matter the project, why no spend 7 extra bucks. the question is, that you may need something more high end, if the poles will be having any sheering forces or weights applied
            Last edited by Chi_archie; 02-05-21, 07:48 AM.
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            • Vyasports
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-27-19
              • 4946

              #7
              Originally posted by Chi_archie
              you've come to the right place. With engineers like Pavyracer, JJGold and myself. we'll have you set right away

              we have no idea if this is indoor outdoor, your current weather conditions, depth of hole, circumference of the hole/steel pole, is pole hollow or solid, will pole undertake any force? so some more detail on what you are looking to do would be helpful.

              no matter what, I'd first suggest you just look into some cheap two part epoxy mixes that you can get in any retail home improvement or painting store, it's not a huge step up. But no matter the project, why no spend 7 extra bucks.
              will be indoor, summer days going on, depth of hole will be around one inch or shud i increase it? , pole is solid i used a 7mm drill bit...
              i will have 4 steel bars like this vertical (32 inches) i will add concrete to it, its part of a table stand.
              its like a small project (hobby) im making a decorative table ...
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              • Vyasports
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-27-19
                • 4946

                #8
                Originally posted by 19th Hole
                ORIGINAL GORILLA GLUE

                ~~~~~~~`
                Yes this is the glue i have I will add baking soda to it... i heard it cures instantly...
                p.s. i also have the 2 parts epoxy...
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                • TheGoldenGoose
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-27-12
                  • 3745

                  #9
                  Measure your cokk and triple the length for the pole depth.
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                  • SEAHAWKHARRY
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 11-29-07
                    • 26068

                    #10
                    You are going to use a 2 part Epoxy
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                    • Hman
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-04-17
                      • 21429

                      #11
                      Drill a 3-4 inch hole

                      Clean the debris out of hole

                      Fill hole with epoxy

                      Insert rebar and tap down with hammer into hole

                      Apply moreoe epoxy around base of rebar
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                      • Hman
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-04-17
                        • 21429

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
                        Measure your cokk and triple the length for the pole depth.


                        you're giving him a lot of credit because he already said the pole will be 32 in long LOL
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                        • Slurry Pumper
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-18-18
                          • 2811

                          #13
                          Glue + Steel + Concrete = Failure Eventually. The first time there is a shock load in a sheering direction, the glue will most likely stop adhering to the concrete and you'll have a pole with a dried glue plug. It would be better to drill a larger hole in the concrete, and set a small amount of sakrete in the hole with the pole. That way the concrete has a chance of bonding with the other concrete. Of course you need a special type of bonding sakrete like a Top and Bond, or a Surface Bonding Cement. There are other brands you can use also. The size of the hole is derived from the strength needed. For instance, a 1" hole will have 3.14" X (D)epth = 3.14D in^2 of surface area to hold, a 2" hole will have 6.28D in^2 of surface area. So the bigger the hole the more surface area you get to bond. You can get too big however so having a giant hole will defeat the purpose.
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                          • Vyasports
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-27-19
                            • 4946

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                            Glue + Steel + Concrete = Failure Eventually. The first time there is a shock load in a sheering direction, the glue will most likely stop adhering to the concrete and you'll have a pole with a dried glue plug. It would be better to drill a larger hole in the concrete, and set a small amount of sakrete in the hole with the pole. That way the concrete has a chance of bonding with the other concrete. Of course you need a special type of bonding sakrete like a Top and Bond, or a Surface Bonding Cement. There are other brands you can use also. The size of the hole is derived from the strength needed. For instance, a 1" hole will have 3.14" X (D)epth = 3.14D in^2 of surface area to hold, a 2" hole will have 6.28D in^2 of surface area. So the bigger the hole the more surface area you get to bond. You can get too big however so having a giant hole will defeat the purpose.
                            is sakrete similar to adhesive cement? You are right about shock load, i had done a similar project outside on the balcony (using epoxy), after one year or so the table wobbled and i had to remove/break it completely so no1 gets injured.
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                            • Foxx
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-25-11
                              • 5831

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                              Glue + Steel + Concrete = Failure Eventually. The first time there is a shock load in a sheering direction, the glue will most likely stop adhering to the concrete and you'll have a pole with a dried glue plug. It would be better to drill a larger hole in the concrete, and set a small amount of sakrete in the hole with the pole. That way the concrete has a chance of bonding with the other concrete. Of course you need a special type of bonding sakrete like a Top and Bond, or a Surface Bonding Cement. There are other brands you can use also. The size of the hole is derived from the strength needed. For instance, a 1" hole will have 3.14" X (D)epth = 3.14D in^2 of surface area to hold, a 2" hole will have 6.28D in^2 of surface area. So the bigger the hole the more surface area you get to bond. You can get too big however so having a giant hole will defeat the purpose.
                              With a name like Slurry Pumper, it's a good bet this guy knows what he is talking about.

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                              • hehfest
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-28-08
                                • 7934

                                #16
                                I hate to ask this (or maybe not because...), but are you turning your basement into a strip club? That could be the official SBR strip club joint.
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                                • hehfest
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-28-08
                                  • 7934

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                  Glue + Steel + Concrete = Failure Eventually. The first time there is a shock load in a sheering direction, the glue will most likely stop adhering to the concrete and you'll have a pole with a dried glue plug. It would be better to drill a larger hole in the concrete, and set a small amount of sakrete in the hole with the pole. That way the concrete has a chance of bonding with the other concrete. Of course you need a special type of bonding sakrete like a Top and Bond, or a Surface Bonding Cement. There are other brands you can use also. The size of the hole is derived from the strength needed. For instance, a 1" hole will have 3.14" X (D)epth = 3.14D in^2 of surface area to hold, a 2" hole will have 6.28D in^2 of surface area. So the bigger the hole the more surface area you get to bond. You can get too big however so having a giant hole will defeat the purpose.

                                  If this fukker gambles as good as his friggin pie times this depth shit raised to the 2nd power, then we need to know his bets NOW.
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                                  • pablo222
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-03-19
                                    • 8858

                                    #18
                                    Dewalt AC Gold is the answer
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                                    • Vyasports
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-27-19
                                      • 4946

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pablo222
                                      Dewalt AC Gold is the answer
                                      THanks!! That's exactly what i was looking for!!
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                                      • KnuckleHeadz
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-11-19
                                        • 8194

                                        #20
                                        HILTI RESIN EPOXY Is all you should be using. Just go to the local hardware store
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                                        • The Kraken
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 12-25-11
                                          • 28918

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          you've come to the right place. With engineers like Pavyracer, JJGold and myself. we'll have you set right away

                                          we have no idea if this is indoor outdoor, your current weather conditions, depth of hole, circumference of the hole/steel pole, is pole hollow or solid, will pole undertake any force? so some more detail on what you are looking to do would be helpful.

                                          no matter what, I'd first suggest you just look into some cheap two part epoxy mixes that you can get in any retail home improvement or painting store, it's not a huge step up. But no matter the project, why no spend 7 extra bucks. the question is, that you may need something more high end, if the poles will be having any sheering forces or weights applied
                                          Originally posted by Vyasports
                                          will be indoor, summer days going on, depth of hole will be around one inch or shud i increase it? , pole is solid i used a 7mm drill bit...
                                          i will have 4 steel bars like this vertical (32 inches) i will add concrete to it, its part of a table stand.
                                          its like a small project (hobby) im making a decorative table ...
                                          Lmao

                                          what a dick
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