House Republicans to Introduce National Sales Tax...

[d2bets]

You're not factoring in the positive impact this would have. They would also eliminate the corporate tax. When that was cut in 2017, the result was wage gains for lower income workers and the lowest poverty rate ever. Things were so good the democrats were claiming credit for the economy up until Covid hit.

Yeah riiiiight. Like that's going to overcome 30% sales tax. People complain about 6% inflation, but then you're going to add 30% inflation. OK, sure, great idea.

[rkelly110]

Yeah riiiiight. Like that's going to overcome 30% sales tax. People complain about 6% inflation, but then you're going to add 30% inflation. OK, sure, great idea.

[guitarjosh]

Dude, you listen to Rush Limbaugh. Like you got a fuking clue of what's going on. LMAO


I realize you know nothing about that train.

No, I don't, I posted a Nightline debate where I paraphrased Al Gore. You listen to TYT and Sam Seder. You have no clue of what's going on.

[guitarjosh]

Yeah riiiiight. Like that's going to overcome 30% sales tax. People complain about 6% inflation, but then you're going to add 30% inflation. OK, sure, great idea.

Does inflation factor in taxes? If not, it won't impact the inflation rate. If it does, an easy way to cut inflation is to cut taxes. Again, you're still not looking at the positive impact of eliminating all other taxes.

[d2bets]

Does inflation factor in taxes? If not, it won't impact the inflation rate. If it does, an easy way to cut inflation is to cut taxes. Again, you're still not looking at the positive impact of eliminating all other taxes.

It will make all purchases 30% more expensive. That's inflation. And it will not be offset by wage gains. That guy that makes 15 bucks and hour and takes home (and spends) $2,500/mo will have to find a way to cut $750/mo from his expenses. Debt. More debt. Meanwhile, the dude taking home 20 million per year will be able to take home 30 million instead.

[khicks26]

No, I don't, I posted a Nightline debate where I paraphrased Al Gore. You listen to TYT and Sam Seder. You have no clue of what's going on.

How would a hack like you know what to watch?

If you know nothing about the train then STFU.

[rkelly110]

It will make all purchases 30% more expensive. That's inflation. And it will not be offset by wage gains. That guy that makes 15 bucks and hour and takes home (and spends) $2,500/mo will have to find a way to cut $750/mo from his expenses. Debt. More debt. Meanwhile, the dude taking home 20 million per year will be able to take home 30 million instead.

[guitarjosh]

It will make all purchases 30% more expensive. That's inflation. And it will not be offset by wage gains. That guy that makes 15 bucks and hour and takes home (and spends) $2,500/mo will have to find a way to cut $750/mo from his expenses. Debt. More debt. Meanwhile, the dude taking home 20 million per year will be able to take home 30 million instead.

I'm pretty sure the sales tax isn't factored into the CPI or PCE reports, and it will also eliminate all other taxes. You would see wages go up by 15.3% just by eliminating the FICA taxes, the national gas taxes would be eliminated, etc. If what you're saying is true, we could eliminate inflation simply by repealing the sales taxes across the country and drop interest rates back down. Of course, what you're saying isn't true.

How would a hack like you know what to watch?

If you know nothing about the train then STFU.

That clip has been around for 30 years and I have an excellent memory.

I'm just going off what the national news reported, cameras captured the train on fire roughly 20 miles from where it derailed.

[Greget]

I'm pretty sure the sales tax isn't factored into the CPI or PCE reports, and it will also eliminate all other taxes. You would see wages go up by 15.3% just by eliminating the FICA taxes, the national gas taxes would be eliminated, etc. If what you're saying is true, we could eliminate inflation simply by repealing the sales taxes across the country and drop interest rates back down. Of course, what you're saying isn't true.



That clip has been around for 30 years and I have an excellent memory.

I'm just going off what the national news reported, cameras captured the train on fire roughly 20 miles from where it derailed.

Are you daft or just autistic? No one is saying this. Have you heard the saying inflation is like a tax.. when it's not technically, but is effectively.

[d2bets]

I'm pretty sure the sales tax isn't factored into the CPI or PCE reports, and it will also eliminate all other taxes. You would see wages go up by 15.3% just by eliminating the FICA taxes, the national gas taxes would be eliminated, etc. If what you're saying is true, we could eliminate inflation simply by repealing the sales taxes across the country and drop interest rates back down. Of course, what you're saying isn't true.



That clip has been around for 30 years and I have an excellent memory.

I'm just going off what the national news reported, cameras captured the train on fire roughly 20 miles from where it derailed.

Eliminate FICA? Are you admitting that you're eliminating social security or are you lying?

Bottom line is that a flat sales tax on everything is super regressive.

Poor people would end up paying a much higher % of income on tax than rich people. Utterly ass backwards.

[DwightShrute]

Eliminate FICA? Are you admitting that you're eliminating social security or are you lying?

Bottom line is that a flat sales tax on everything is super regressive.

Poor people would end up paying a much higher % of income on tax than rich people. Utterly ass backwards.

[DwightShrute]

Its funny how the US is 31 trillion in debt but there are some people who support more taxes! I mean come on man! Ok, lets say the bridges were repaired, the roads were fixed, tent cities weren't expanding, people had affordable health care, education was ranked as one of the best in the world and the border was secured and they wanted to raise taxes a little to do do something to make the country even better. Ok, you probably will not get much resistance from the vast majority of people.

You are insane if you support any sort of tax increase on anyone. People will attack anyone who merely talks about new ideas regarding taxes. These "financial experts" know everything.

You had the CNBC loudmouth, Cramer telling you everything's fine and you are nuts if you pull out, just before it crashes. And one of my favs ...





Why not talk about a flat tax again? Why does the tax code need to be 70,000 pages? Why can't it be the size of a postcard? You earn this much, you pay X%. No need for the IRS to even exist really. Maybe a little office somewhere.

Better yet, why not just eliminate income taxes altogether? Just put a VAT on everything. Why should a person working for cash not pay anything? Why should a person who has no children pay school tax? Why should someone who doesn't drive pay road taxes? You drive, you pay. You have kids that go to school, you pay.

Taxes aren't a problem. They never have been. Wasteful out of control government spending is. They keep doing it because they can. They know the people won't do anything about it. They never will.

[d2bets]

Now do how that would look if the only tax was a 30% national sales tax.

[d2bets]

That isn't nearly progressive enough and doesn't take into account payroll taxes.

[DwightShrute]

Now do how that would look if the only tax was a 30% national sales tax.

No idea. Haven't researched it enough. My point is and always has been, that taxation is theft. I mean you can't deny it is. You are alive for certain amount of years and some fukkheads decide how much of your money they will take. No consequences. They also decide how much THEY will pay themselves and its totally irrelevant on their job performance.

Wait, it gets even crazier. They get millions of people and much of the MSM to support them. They have, over time, convinced you that they no longer are simple public servants beholden to the people who elected them. Nope. They have indoctrinated much of the population to accept the "Do as I say" mentality and virtually stop paying attention to the tranny. Wanna work so you can live, here take this vaccine. Want your kids to get education? Here take the vaccine. Need an operation? Not without the jab. Wanna see a ballgame? Have you had your 4 the booster? Wanna get a haircut, go to the gym, go eat or seeing your parents before the pass away? Get this experimental drug and wear a mask but we don't need to because we need to look good for the cameras and we are special. Do as we say not as we do!

Its a big scam. 31 trillion reasons why this current system isn't working too well. Trump lowers taxes on corporations AND individual and the Left loses their minds.

[d2bets]

No idea. Haven't researched it enough. My point is and always has been, that taxation is theft. I mean you can't deny it is. You are alive for certain amount of years and some fukkheads decide how much of your money they will take. No consequences. They also decide how much THEY will pay themselves and its totally irrelevant on their job performance.

Wait, it gets even crazier. They get millions of people and much of the MSM to support them. They have, over time, convinced you that they no longer are simple public servants beholden to the people who elected them. Nope. They have indoctrinated much of the population to accept the "Do as I say" mentality and virtually stop paying attention to the tranny. Wanna work so you can live, here take this vaccine. Want your kids to get education? Here take the vaccine. Need an operation? Not without the jab. Wanna see a ballgame? Have you had your 4 the booster? Wanna get a haircut, go to the gym, go eat or seeing your parents before the pass away? Get this experimental drug and wear a mask but we don't need to because we need to look good for the cameras and we are special. Do as we say not as we do!

Its a big scam. 31 trillion reasons why this current system isn't working too well. Trump lowers taxes on corporations AND individual and the Left loses their minds.

Taxation is the price for living in a civilized society. It's always possible to go live somewhere on your own and make a run of it without taxes. Don't like it? Go for it.

[DwightShrute]

Taxation is the price for living in a civilized society. It's always possible to go live somewhere on your own and make a run of it without taxes. Don't like it? Go for it.

Wow dude. I never thought any of that and I certainly never posted anything that would given any logical person that impression.

[d2bets]

Wow dude. I never thought any of that and I certainly never posted anything that would given any logical person that impression.

You said taxation is theft. It isn't. You can leave the system of taxation if you want. But if you want to avail yourself of the US system of governance, then you have ti pay the applicable taxes.

[DwightShrute]

You said taxation is theft. It isn't. You can leave the system of taxation if you want. But if you want to avail yourself of the US system of governance, then you have ti pay the applicable taxes.

Nonsense. You have the right to voice your opinions about unreasonable taxes, government waste and corruption.

The problem is that people just put up with it. They think their voice doesn't make a difference, these swamp dwellers realize this and will keep fukking you over. Just look at you as a perfect example. Of all things I mentioned, the 31 trillion debt, waste, tyranny etc and your only comeback was taxation is the price you pay for living in a society. LOL. You are broken.

[rkelly110]

^^^Gee, what would an island hut dweller know about US taxes? STFU!

[DwightShrute]

^^^Gee, what would an island hut dweller know about US taxes? STFU!

You are smart enough to follow this. Go and sniff your sister's dildo again sicko.

[d2bets]

Nonsense. You have the right to voice your opinions about unreasonable taxes, government waste and corruption.

The problem is that people just put up with it. They think their voice doesn't make a difference, these swamp dwellers realize this and will keep fukking you over. Just look at you as a perfect example. Of all things I mentioned, the 31 trillion debt, waste, tyranny etc and your only comeback was taxation is the price you pay for living in a society. LOL. You are broken.

I never said you couldn't. What the hell is wrong with you?

[DwightShrute]

I never said you couldn't. What the hell is wrong with you?

With me? LOL.

[guitarjosh]

Are you daft or just autistic? No one is saying this. Have you heard the saying inflation is like a tax.. when it's not technically, but is effectively.

That's literally being argued. You keep claiming that prices will go up 30% while not factoring in that all other taxes will be eliminated, which will filter through the economy through things like lower prices and higher pay.

Eliminate FICA? Are you admitting that you're eliminating social security or are you lying?

Bottom line is that a flat sales tax on everything is super regressive.

Poor people would end up paying a much higher % of income on tax than rich people. Utterly ass backwards.

No, pay for SS in a different way. The sales tax also hits everything, so there's no tax avoidance. I do agree that we would need an income tax for the highest earners who could leave the country to buy things, and again, you're not factoring in that eliminating all other taxes will have a positive impact on the economy.

[d2bets]

That's literally being argued. You keep claiming that prices will go up 30% while not factoring in that all other taxes will be eliminated, which will filter through the economy through things like lower prices and higher pay.



No, pay for SS in a different way. The sales tax also hits everything, so there's no tax avoidance. I do agree that we would need an income tax for the highest earners who could leave the country to buy things, and again, you're not factoring in that eliminating all other taxes will have a positive impact on the economy.

Oh, that's nonsense. People will find all kinds of ways around big stuff. Will drive economy underground. Bartering, etc. Clusterfuck.

[guitarjosh]

Oh, that's nonsense. People will find all kinds of ways around big stuff. Will drive economy underground. Bartering, etc. Clusterfuck.

You always have an underground economy, we have one right now in America and other countries around the world. If you want to buy anything new or anything that's registered with the government, you would be taxed.

Again, you would need in income tax for the highest earners so they don't fly to other countries to buy their mega yachts and avoid the tax, but a national sales tax or a VAT tax would be very good at collecting money.

[khicks26]

I'm pretty sure the sales tax isn't factored into the CPI or PCE reports, and it will also eliminate all other taxes. You would see wages go up by 15.3% just by eliminating the FICA taxes, the national gas taxes would be eliminated, etc. If what you're saying is true, we could eliminate inflation simply by repealing the sales taxes across the country and drop interest rates back down. Of course, what you're saying isn't true.



That clip has been around for 30 years and I have an excellent memory.

I'm just going off what the national news reported, cameras captured the train on fire roughly 20 miles from where it derailed.

Good for you, you remember BS.


and?

[guitarjosh]

Good for you, you remember BS.


and?

And Al Gore said that 2 prerequisites for healing our environment is more individual freedom and capitalism around the world.

[khicks26]

And Al Gore said that 2 prerequisites for healing our environment is more individual freedom and capitalism around the world.

30 years ago? What does that even mean? What makes you think he talking about your interpretation, you don't know that.


The and, is for the train dumbass.

[khicks26]

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[rkelly110]

Yes maggie, we need a divorce from you!

[Greget]

Completely fake and disingenuous chart. Income taxes are not the only form of taxes, they are not even the majority of taxes collected.

[guitarjosh]

30 years ago? What does that even mean? What makes you think he talking about your interpretation, you don't know that.


The and, is for the train dumbass.

You're the one who brought up the train derailing to blame private property rights, as if there have been no train derailments in socialist or marxist countries.

[jackpot269]

Its funny how the US is 31 trillion in debt but there are some people who support more taxes! I mean come on man! Ok, lets say the bridges were repaired, the roads were fixed, tent cities weren't expanding, people had affordable health care, education was ranked as one of the best in the world and the border was secured and they wanted to raise taxes a little to do do something to make the country even better. Ok, you probably will not get much resistance from the vast majority of people.

You are insane if you support any sort of tax increase on anyone. People will attack anyone who merely talks about new ideas regarding taxes. These "financial experts" know everything.

You had the CNBC loudmouth, Cramer telling you everything's fine and you are nuts if you pull out, just before it crashes. And one of my favs ...





Why not talk about a flat tax again? Why does the tax code need to be 70,000 pages? Why can't it be the size of a postcard? You earn this much, you pay X%. No need for the IRS to even exist really. Maybe a little office somewhere.

Better yet, why not just eliminate income taxes altogether? Just put a VAT on everything. Why should a person working for cash not pay anything? Why should a person who has no children pay school tax? Why should someone who doesn't drive pay road taxes? You drive, you pay. You have kids that go to school, you pay.

Taxes aren't a problem. They never have been. Wasteful out of control government spending is. They keep doing it because they can. They know the people won't do anything about it. They never will.

Putting higher tax brackets back to where there were is not raising taxes it's restoring, you know like laying off workers, when you rehire them it's not a new job it's getting your old job back.
I don't know about a cross the board flat tax, but looking at something to reduce the tax code is one of the smartest things I've seen that you have ever posted.
See and then you post about vat tax that would ensure lower earnings working class folks would pay taxes on every dime they make while higher earners that have money to invest or save would pay nothing on that portion of income. That's not a very good system