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[Greget]

I don't watch Fox business, it's either CNBC or Bloomberg for me.
The fact that you think there is a difference tells me everything I need to know about you.
Here's the thing about PFAS, they're not allowed unless the FDA says they probably won't harm people. Let's see what the FDA has to say on this issue:If you have a problem with PFAS, you should blame the government agencies which paved the way for their market entry.
FDA doesn't regulate PFOS in the environment, that's the EPA. It's shocking how little you know about the world around you. No government agencies paved the way for their market entry. These compounds were invented by Dupont.
https://www.fda.gov/food/environment...ubstances-pfas

You're the one who needs to talk less and listen more, and for once, stop lying.

I just demolished you.

Pretty much everyone's decisions are primarily driven through financial returns. Most people hate their jobs, but do it anyway because it's better than begging. They don't get a job to increase economic productivity. Here's the thing, investors' impact is huge if they're good. Most pension plans invest, and it's a good thing because it allows people to have money and spend even when they're too old or invalid to produce. Like I wrote before, if investors didn't have discernment and just gave money to anyone who could fog a mirror, we would have 2008 all over again. If they didn't exist, the only entities who could own property would be the very wealth.

Given you provided no evidence to support this word salad, i'll just post that wall street caused 2008 and made wealth inequality worse.

Then again, what does any of this have to do with the irony I pointed out in you arguing with khicks that blue collar workers/working poor are not productive, and at the same time tripping over yourself to explain that passive investing is a productive activity, when by definition, it's not. You're a complete buffoon Josh.

[guitarjosh]

I'm not looking for a definition, what kind of property are you talking about. LOL


I'm not talking about small business. What are you stupid? What is the No.1 goal of all corporations above all? Make profit, not what is good for people.

Go ahead and prove that. Given that the profits will be $0 if they can't get customers, the way for them to make profit is to cater to the public better than their competitors.

Anecdotal, strawman, garbage isn't helping you. LOL

It's documented that 1/3 of all food produced in the world is spoiled by bacteria and molds. You've said in the past that numbers don't always tell the story, and in this case, it's true, not food produced is fit for consumption.

Josh you consume more than you produce, you produce nothing. LOL Well you did produce a strawman if you want to count that. LOL

No Hicks, you consume more than they produce. You're a parasite.

How about nobody fails on purpose.

We should go with the smallest failure.

I would say putting toxins in the water is harmful.


I told you, the government is controlled by the rich and corporations. Only a person who doesn't want to see it would say what you say.

Do you have evidence that PFAS are are toxic and the FDA says they're safe for humans when they're not? You should come forward with it, but you won't because you're just making things up

Dude the only person you are BS'ing is yourself. But then everything is about you anyway. lol

I'm not BS'ing at all, you're the one BS'ing

Yes I could tell by the end of his reply that he was losing his shit. LMAO


Fuk dude, Josh went to Fox Business School. LOL Tell him we waste more food than the world can consume and he starts talking about mold on strawberry's, WTF is that? If that doesn't sound like Stuart Varney I don't know what does.

Again, Hicks, 1/3 of all food produced in the world is spoiled by bacteria and mold.

LMAO you couldn't have contradicted yourself any better than if I wrote this post for you. Fuking Fraud Clown.

I didn't contract myself at all, you're lying again.

[guitarjosh]

The fact that you think there is a difference tells me everything I need to know about you.

FDA doesn't regulate PFOS in the environment, that's the EPA. It's shocking how little you know about the world around you. No government agencies paved the way for their market entry. These compounds were invented by Dupont.

I just demolished you.


Given you provided no evidence to support this word salad, i'll just post that wall street caused 2008 and made wealth inequality worse.

Then again, what does any of this have to do with the irony I pointed out in you arguing with khicks that blue collar workers/working poor are not productive, and at the same time tripping over yourself to explain that passive investing is a productive activity, when by definition, it's not. You're a complete buffoon Josh.

LOL, you just demolished yourself. I literally quoted from the FDA's website where they said that

The FDA has authorized specific PFAS for use in specific food contact applications. Some PFAS are used in cookware, food packaging, and in food processing for their non-stick and grease, oil, and water-resistant properties. To ensure food contact substances are safe for their intended use, the FDA conducts a rigorous review of scientific data prior to their authorization for market entry. The FDA’s authorization of a food contact substance requires that available data and information demonstrate that there is a reasonable certainty of no harm under the intended conditions of use.

You're claiming that you're right and the FDA is wrong.

I never said that blue collar workers/working poor are not productive, I said they don't produce enough to justify the high compensation that Hicks claims they should have. I also laid the blame for that at the feet of the politicians who designed the horrible K-12 education system that they went through that didn't teach them the skills they need to produce enough to live off.

[khicks26]

I'm not BS'ing at all, you're the one BS'ing

Again, Hicks, 1/3 of all food produced in the world is spoiled by bacteria and mold.


I didn't contract myself at all, you're lying again.

[khicks26]

No strawjosh reply? Good!

[guitarjosh]

No strawjosh reply? Good!

The pic wasn't worth replying to. Your arguments are nothing but baseless accusations anyway. Do you have any proof that the FDA approved PFOS because they've been bought off?

[khicks26]

The pic wasn't worth replying to. Your arguments are nothing but baseless accusations anyway. Do you have any proof that the FDA approved PFOS because they've been bought off?

not very libertarian of you. lol

does it really matter if i have proof, nothing will change your mind anyway. Besides if you really wanted to know, its not hard to figure out.

I think you would rather tell yourself pretty little lies anyway. This is the very reason debating with you is pointless.

[rkelly110]

not very libertarian of you. lol

does it really matter if i have proof, nothing will change your mind anyway. Besides if you really wanted to know, its not hard to figure out.

I think you would rather tell yourself pretty little lies anyway. This is the very reason debating with you is pointless.

[khicks26]

The pic wasn't worth replying to. Your arguments are nothing but baseless accusations anyway. Do you have any proof that the FDA approved PFOS because they've been bought off?

[guitarjosh]

LOL, so according to Hicks, Kenneth Train, a Harvard trained economist who teaches at right wing bastion (checks notes) UC Berkeley and has testified as an expert witness in numerous court appearances, is a corporate shill and his lectures at UC Berkeley shouldn't be taken seriously.

The Wall Street Journal, winner of dozens of Pulitzer Prizes for their reporting, is worthless because it's owned by the same parent company as Fox News.

However, one study from the pseudoscience Environmental Working Group, a group who pushed the "vaccines cause Autism" hoax, is totally credible.

The real problem is clowns like Hicks believe that anything that backs up their beliefs is unquestionably right, anything they disagree with has been bought off and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[rkelly110]

Boy khicks, you got him with this one.

[khicks26]

Boy khicks, you got him with this one.

Its easy with a clown like Josh.

[khicks26]

LOL, so according to Hicks, Kenneth Train, a Harvard trained economist who teaches at right wing bastion (checks notes) UC Berkeley and has testified as an expert witness in numerous court appearances, is a corporate shill and his lectures at UC Berkeley shouldn't be taken seriously.

The Wall Street Journal, winner of dozens of Pulitzer Prizes for their reporting, is worthless because it's owned by the same parent company as Fox News.

However, one study from the pseudoscience Environmental Working Group, a group who pushed the "vaccines cause Autism" hoax, is totally credible.

The real problem is clowns like Hicks believe that anything that backs up their beliefs is unquestionably right, anything they disagree with has been bought off and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Well then, you should go fishing. Enjoy

[khicks26]

More BS from the Josh's of the world. We all need to suck fumes for his property rights.

[guitarjosh]

More BS from the Josh's of the world. We all need to suck fumes for his property rights.

Nice anecdote, but moving in my direction and away from yours economically has seen the biggest drop in poverty ever. A lower percentage of humans live in extreme poverty than ever, and you want to take us back.

[guitarjosh]

Karl "Marx" Hicks is doing what lefties typically do, trying to poke holes is something he hates while not looking at what he likes with the same scrutiny. Al Gore flat out said that the biggest environmental problems came from big government, and 2 of the best ways to improve the environment is through more capitalism and individual freedom. Watch 2:30-3:10

[khicks26]

Nice anecdote, but moving in my direction and away from yours economically has seen the biggest drop in poverty ever. A lower percentage of humans live in extreme poverty than ever, and you want to take us back.

Yea that wasn't your direction that did that. It was workers fighting for rights and better pay while people like you tried to kill them. It was the New Deal that built the middle class. People like you are trying to take us back to the 1800's.

You said it before, your a big fan of child labor.

[khicks26]

Karl "Marx" Hicks is doing what lefties typically do, trying to poke holes is something he hates while not looking at what he likes with the same scrutiny. Al Gore flat out said that the biggest environmental problems came from big government, and 2 of the best ways to improve the environment is through more capitalism and individual freedom. Watch 2:30-3:10

LMAO, God your stupid.

[guitarjosh]

Yea that wasn't your direction that did that. It was workers fighting for rights and better pay while people like you tried to kill them. It was the New Deal that built the middle class. People like you are trying to take us back to the 1800's.

You said it before, your a big fan of child labor.

We've been through this many times, back in the 1800's we were known as the land of opportunity and tens of millions of people from all around the globe moved here to partake in the highest standard of living up to that point in history that America offered. It wasn't unions that caused that, as unions and guilds were much more prevalent in Europe than America, it was actually capitalism and the very policies you want to end. The New Deal was what prolonged the depression and caused people to have to ration their food and other household items to survive.

I never said I was a big fan of child labor, you're lying yet again. I did say it was preferable to child starvation or child prostitution, which happens in poor countries when children can't work.

LMAO, God your stupid.

YOU'RE, the contraction of YOU ARE. If you weren't the dumbest of all asses you'd know that.

[DwightShrute]

LMAO, God your stupid.

LMFAO!!

Rush was right again.

[Thor4140]

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[Thor4140]

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[khicks26]

We've been through this many times, back in the 1800's we were known as the land of opportunity and tens of millions of people from all around the globe moved here to partake in the highest standard of living up to that point in history that America offered. It wasn't unions that caused that, as unions and guilds were much more prevalent in Europe than America, it was actually capitalism and the very policies you want to end. The New Deal was what prolonged the depression and caused people to have to ration their food and other household items to survive.

I never said I was a big fan of child labor, you're lying yet again. I did say it was preferable to child starvation or child prostitution, which happens in poor countries when children can't work.



YOU'RE, the contraction of YOU ARE. If you weren't the dumbest of all asses you'd know that.

This whole post is based on that what you say is fact. Its not, its BS.

[khicks26]

LMFAO!!

Rush was right again.

Hey look its the clown that doesn't know dick about football.

[khicks26]

We've been through this many times, back in the 1800's we were known as the land of opportunity and tens of millions of people from all around the globe moved here to partake in the highest standard of living up to that point in history that America offered. It wasn't unions that caused that, as unions and guilds were much more prevalent in Europe than America, it was actually capitalism and the very policies you want to end. The New Deal was what prolonged the depression and caused people to have to ration their food and other household items to survive.

I never said I was a big fan of child labor, you're lying yet again. I did say it was preferable to child starvation or child prostitution, which happens in poor countries when children can't work.



YOU'RE, the contraction of YOU ARE. If you weren't the dumbest of all asses you'd know that.

Funny how lying pricks like you go with being the spelling police.


Pull the stick out of YOUR ass.

[Greget]

LOL, you just demolished yourself. I literally quoted from the FDA's website where they said that You're claiming that you're right and the FDA is wrong.

I never said that blue collar workers/working poor are not productive, I said they don't produce enough to justify the high compensation that Hicks claims they should have. I also laid the blame for that at the feet of the politicians who designed the horrible K-12 education system that they went through that didn't teach them the skills they need to produce enough to live off.

Do you have wax in your ears? The FDA doesn't regulate environmental contamination. This has nothing to do with food grade applications of PFOS. PFOS is used in a variety of activities that have nothing to do with food or drugs; therefore, the FDA has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Is that simple enough for a dumb penetrate "advisor" to understand? Lol your entire profession is a joke.

[guitarjosh]

This whole post is based on that what you say is fact. Its not, its BS.

Which do you disagree with? We were known as the land of opportunity, tens of millions of people willingly moved here, or we created the highest standard of living up to that point in history? Where was it better up to that point and why did those people move here and not there?

Funny how lying pricks like you go with being the spelling police.


Pull the stick out of YOUR ass.

No Hicks, it's just that if you're going to insult someone's intelligence, you should know basic grammar.

Pull Bernie's tweeter out of YOUR ass, and Karl Marx's out of YOUR mouth.

[khicks26]

Which do you disagree with? We were known as the land of opportunity, tens of millions of people willingly moved here, or we created the highest standard of living up to that point in history? Where was it better up to that point and why did those people move here and not there?


No Hicks, it's just that if you're going to insult someone's intelligence, you should know basic grammar.

Pull Bernie's tweeter out of YOUR ass, and Karl Marx's out of YOUR mouth.

No point in saying anything to a guy that is thick as a brick.


Did you understand what I said? You did, so pull the stick out of your ass.

What does Bernie and Marx have to do with any of this?

[rkelly110]

[khicks26]

[khicks26]

[guitarjosh]

No point in saying anything to a guy that is thick as a brick.


Did you understand what I said? You did, so pull the stick out of your ass.

What does Bernie and Marx have to do with any of this?

Perhaps you should use actual evidence instead of baseless claims. When I question what you say, explain why you're correct, don't make attacks on anything and everything that doesn't march in goose step with your beliefs.

You worship Bernie and Karl.

BTW, you do realize that the train that derailed was on fire 20 miles from where it derailed, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-shows-sparks-and-flames-well-before-ohio-train-derailment/ar-AA17quja

[d2bets]

A flat 30% tax would cripple the economies in no time. If they got rid of all the other taxes for owning shit and just taxed the consumption maybe 30% would be in the right area even though it still sounds a little high to me. The concept however is equitable for both rich and poor alike to be taxed on what you consume. It doesn't hurt the poor any more, but it doesn't give the handouts to the poor so in a twisted sense, the poor would see less handouts and thus the perception would be that it is screwing the poor.

I'm against the national sales tax because they will just add this tax on top of the other taxes so I would get charged for stuff I already own, and stuff I am consuming.

Of course it's not equitable. Poor people can't save and have to use all funds for consumption. Rich people consume a tiny fraction and would be able to grow wealth even faster. Surely you aren't going to claim that this wouldn't seriously enlarge the gap between the poor and the rich? And then they pass the wealth down tax-free so that generations below and can do the same forever. While others will always be slaves. That, and it would drive economy underground to avoid reporting sales.

An absolutely horrid idea.

VAT is at least closer to making a little sense.

[guitarjosh]

Of course it's not equitable. Poor people can't save and have to use all funds for consumption. Rich people consume a tiny fraction and would be able to grow wealth even faster. Surely you aren't going to claim that this wouldn't seriously enlarge the gap between the poor and the rich? And then they pass the wealth down tax-free so that generations below and can do the same forever. While others will always be slaves. That, and it would drive economy underground to avoid reporting sales.

An absolutely horrid idea.

VAT is at least closer to making a little sense.

You're not factoring in the positive impact this would have. They would also eliminate the corporate tax. When that was cut in 2017, the result was wage gains for lower income workers and the lowest poverty rate ever. Things were so good the democrats were claiming credit for the economy up until Covid hit.

[khicks26]

Perhaps you should use actual evidence instead of baseless claims. When I question what you say, explain why you're correct, don't make attacks on anything and everything that doesn't march in goose step with your beliefs.

You worship Bernie and Karl.

BTW, you do realize that the train that derailed was on fire 20 miles from where it derailed, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/vi...nt/ar-AA17quja

You're not factoring in the positive impact this would have. They would also eliminate the corporate tax. When that was cut in 2017, the result was wage gains for lower income workers and the lowest poverty rate ever. Things were so good the democrats were claiming credit for the economy up until Covid hit.

Dude, you listen to Rush Limbaugh. Like you got a fuking clue of what's going on. LMAO


I realize you know nothing about that train.