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  • Greget
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    • 11-01-10
    • 10516

    #1
    Democrats Deliver with Massive Climate and Health Care Bill
    Republican Senator Joe Manchin finally caved. Biden and Democrats are delivering on a bill that will create millions of jobs and help the middle class. Will also tame inflation And reduce gas prices even further

    Amazing bill
    • Minimum corporate tax to stop these corrupt corporations from pay NOTHING in taxes
    • Increased tax enforcement will bring in an estimated $124 billion
    • Get's rid of carried interest loophole
    • Incentives for renewables
    • allows Medicare to negotiate for the price of prescription drugs starting in 2023 and sets an annual cap of $2,000 on out-of-pocket costs
    • a $4,000 consumer tax credit to purchase used electric vehicles and a $7,500 tax credit to buy new clean vehicles, both of which are available only to lower and middle income individuals


  • b1slickguy
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-24-11
    • 11959

    #2
    Originally posted by Greget
    Republican Senator Joe Manchin finally caved. Biden and Democrats are delivering on a bill that will create millions of jobs and help the middle class. Will also tame inflation And reduce gas prices even further

    Amazing bill
    • Minimum corporate tax to stop these corrupt corporations from pay NOTHING in taxes
    • Increased tax enforcement will bring in an estimated $124 billion
    • Get's rid of carried interest loophole
    • Incentives for renewables
    • allows Medicare to negotiate for the price of prescription drugs starting in 2023 and sets an annual cap of $2,000 on out-of-pocket costs
    • a $4,000 consumer tax credit to purchase used electric vehicles and a $7,500 tax credit to buy new clean vehicles, both of which are available only to lower and middle income individuals




    When did Senator Joe Manchin switch parties?
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    • rkelly110
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      • 10-05-09
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      #3
      Don't hold your breath. manchin can switch like a F'n light switch.
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      • RoyBacon
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        #4
        Obama "never raise taxes in a recession" Oct 2009

        So what do retards do? Raise taxes in a recession.

        All good. Keep the inflation fan blowing for now.
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        • Emily_Haines
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          • 04-14-09
          • 15917

          #5
          Joe Manchin just ended his political career.

          I will enjoy seing him getting voted out as much as I will enjoy the beat down coming for Cheney next month.
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          • Emily_Haines
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-09
            • 15917

            #6
            Originally posted by RoyBacon
            Obama "never raise taxes in a recession" Oct 2009

            So what do retards do? Raise taxes in a recession.

            All good. Keep the inflation fan blowing for now.
            LOL

            More like a depression now. Good luck trying buy a home now with massive interest rates.
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            • Emily_Haines
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              • 04-14-09
              • 15917

              #7
              All this BS ends on day #1 with a republican president and in three months with a GOP controlled house every climate bill will be voted down.
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              • rkelly110
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                • 10-05-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                Joe Manchin just ended his political career.

                I will enjoy seing him getting voted out as much as I will enjoy the beat down coming for Cheney next month.
                Good! GTFO along with you! Get out of my country!
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                • Greget
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                  • 11-01-10
                  • 10516

                  #9
                  Good to see things happening in DC again after 4 years of Trump dysfunction
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                  • Greget
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                    • 11-01-10
                    • 10516

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                    Obama "never raise taxes in a recession" Oct 2009

                    So what do retards do? Raise taxes in a recession.

                    All good. Keep the inflation fan blowing for now.
                    Not a recession dumb dumb. Raise taxes on tax cheats and billionaires, great idea. Cuts deficit. Also creates million of jobs and lowers inflation. Get a clue.
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                    • stevenash
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                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65212

                      #11
                      Please provide me the link showing I support child rape?
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                      • Greget
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-01-10
                        • 10516

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stevenash
                        Please provide me the link showing I support child rape?
                        Never said you did, you did however repeat the lies that the story of 10 year old rape victim who couldn't get an abortion wasn't true, just like slew. Shameful.
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                        • stevenash
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                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65212

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Greget
                          Never said you did, you did however repeat the lies that the story of 10 year old rape victim who couldn't get an abortion wasn't true, just like slew. Shameful.
                          No, I didn't.
                          And now you're back pedaling.

                          Show me those comments, you can't prove anything you have accused me of so far.

                          Show me where I allegedly said the story was not true.
                          I'll bet you can't.

                          If you're that confident, let's make a wager.
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                          • Mr KLC
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Greget
                            Not a recession dumb dumb. Raise taxes on tax cheats and billionaires, great idea. Cuts deficit. Also creates million of jobs and lowers inflation. Get a clue.
                            There are tax increases galore in this thing. Raising corporate taxes is nothing but a tax on the American people because we all know that corporations don't pay taxes. Taxes are a cost of doing business and it is factored into the selling price of an item just like any other expense. So if you raise taxes on corporations, in order for them to continue to make a profit, the cost of the item goes up and we consumers pay it when we buy their product. So a corporate tax is a tax on all Americans.
                            Last edited by Mr KLC; 08-01-22, 04:09 AM.
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                            • Greget
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                              • 11-01-10
                              • 10516

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr KLC
                              There are tax increases galore in this thing. Raising corporate taxes is nothing but a tax on the American people because we all know that corporations don't pay taxes. Taxes are a cost of doing business and it is factored into the selling price of an item just like any other expense. So if you raise taxes on corporations, in order for them to continue to make a profit, the cost of the item goes up and we consumers pay it when we buy their product. So a corporate tax is a tax on all Americans.

                              Almost no economists believe that the incidence of corporate income taxation falls on consumers. Most studies show that the actual burden of the tax is unequally divided between corporate shareholders, the corporation itself and the corporations employees but never consumers. In 1962, Arnold Harberger, a conservative University of Chicago economist and colleague of Milton Friedman did a careful study of the incidence (distribution of the burden) of the corporate tax and found that it fell largely on corporate shareholders in the form of lower dividends and stock value. Other studies show some ratio of distribution between labor and management, but it almost never includes consumers of the corporation's output.
                              Now that we have established you don't know anything about taxes. Corporations very much do pay taxes, not much these days, but when corporations don't pay taxes, it's the American people who end up paying more. Unironically, you've been brainwashed to believe the opposite of course.
                              Last edited by Greget; 08-01-22, 06:34 AM.
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                              • rkelly110
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                There are tax increases galore in this thing. Raising corporate taxes is nothing but a tax on the American people because we all know that corporations don't pay taxes. Taxes are a cost of doing business and it is factored into the selling price of an item just like any other expense. So if you raise taxes on corporations, in order for them to continue to make a profit, the cost of the item goes up and we consumers pay it when we buy their product. So a corporate tax is a tax on all Americans.
                                We are paying higher now when they ain't paying shit in taxes. TF? Argument...fail.
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                                • Greget
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-01-10
                                  • 10516

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                                  We are paying higher now when they ain't paying shit in taxes. TF? Argument...fail.
                                  exactly, Trump gave away trillions in corporate tax cuts and consumer prices skyrocketed..
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                                  • rkelly110
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                                    • 10-05-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Greget
                                    exactly, Trump gave away trillions in corporate tax cuts and consumer prices skyrocketed..
                                    I swear arguing with these people is like arguing with a woman on her period.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65212

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Greget
                                      Almost no economists believe that the incidence of corporate income taxation falls on consumers. Most studies show that the actual burden of the tax is unequally divided between corporate shareholders, the corporation itself and the corporations employees but never consumers. In 1962, Arnold Harberger, a conservative University of Chicago economist and colleague of Milton Friedman did a careful study of the incidence (distribution of the burden) of the corporate tax and found that it fell largely on corporate shareholders in the form of lower dividends and stock value. Other studies show some ratio of distribution between labor and management, but it almost never includes consumers of the corporation's output.

                                      Are these your own words?
                                      Think carefully before you answer.

                                      That looks exactly like a piece from the Daily Kos written about eight years ago.

                                      Why didn't you give credit to the author?
                                      Or at least the publication where you lifted it from.
                                      Proving once again why I call you "the cut and paste king"

                                      You're real good at cutting and pasting, you had better be since you aren't capable of an original thought.
                                      And why should you be when you can just cut and paste somebody else's work.
                                      Why put in the time and effort of writing an original article, demonstrating original thought when all you have to do is 'borrow' somebody else's efforts, right?

                                      By not crediting the author of that original piece you give the impression that those were your words, and one might accuse you of plagiarism

                                      Not me, I wouldn't do that to you, you ooze integrity and ethics.

                                      So, if plagiarism is a lie, and it's a huge lie, that makes four whoopers now in the past 36 hours, and I'm not even seeking them out, if I were, I bet I could come up with another dozen doozies.

                                      Taken to school, once again.
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                                      • Greget
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-01-10
                                        • 10516

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        Are these your own words?
                                        Think carefully before you answer.

                                        That looks exactly like a piece from the Daily Kos written about eight years ago.

                                        Why didn't you give credit to the author?
                                        Or at least the publication where you lifted it from.
                                        Proving once again why I call you "the cut and paste king"

                                        You're real good at cutting and pasting, you had better be since you aren't capable of an original thought.
                                        And why should you be when you can just cut and paste somebody else's work.
                                        Why put in the time and effort of writing an original article, demonstrating original thought when all you have to do is 'borrow' somebody else's efforts, right?

                                        By not crediting the author of that original piece you give the impression that those were your words, and one might accuse you of plagiarism

                                        Not me, I wouldn't do that to you, you ooze integrity and ethics.

                                        So, if plagiarism is a lie, and it's a huge lie, that makes four whoopers now in the past 36 hours, and I'm not even seeking them out, if I were, I bet I could come up with another dozen doozies.

                                        Taken to school, once again.
                                        You need a hobby...

                                        There were once people on this board that admired you, but chasing me around the board with these silly ass posts (hint: credit is given for the author of the study in the post...), is just not a good look, very much beta male behavior, slew like..
                                        Last edited by Greget; 08-01-22, 10:25 AM.
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                                        • slewfan
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                                          • 10-01-15
                                          • 15765

                                          #21
                                          AVERAGE AMERICAN WORKER HAS LOST $3,400 IN ANNUAL WAGES UNDER BIDEN THANKS TO INFLATION
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                                          • Greget
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-01-10
                                            • 10516

                                            #22
                                            Thanks Trump!! Guess his 4 trillion bailout of wall street was a bad idea.
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                                            • dustyy
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-08-17
                                              • 2459

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by rkelly110
                                              I swear arguing with these people is like arguing with a woman on her period.
                                              AOC is going to confiscate your "tard card" for comments like this. Haven't you heard...men can have periods too! Duh

                                              Come on man (or woman, if you haven't self-identified) get with the program, they gave you your marching orders months ago.
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                                              • Greget
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-01-10
                                                • 10516

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by dustyy
                                                AOC is going to confiscate your "tard card" for comments like this. Haven't you heard...men can have periods too! Duh

                                                Come on man (or woman, if you haven't self-identified) get with the program, they gave you your marching orders months ago.
                                                Unironically this post has nothing to do with gender identify, but like a good fox news dog, you're obedient and know when you can't win an argument... scream trans!!
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                                                • BOA12
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                                                  • 02-19-12
                                                  • 20622

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Greget
                                                  Unironically this post has nothing to do with gender identify, but like a good fox news dog, you're obedient and know when you can't win an argument... scream trans!!
                                                  It's Makin' bacon look bad, the creator of this kind of nonsense at SBR. Lipsticked pig is never a good look.
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                                                  • Emily_Haines
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-14-09
                                                    • 15917

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Greget
                                                    Thanks Trump!! Guess his 4 trillion bailout of wall street was a bad idea.
                                                    Nothing ever is Biden’s fault.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65212

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Greget
                                                      You need a hobby...

                                                      There were once people on this board that admired you, but chasing me around the board with these silly ass posts (hint: credit is given for the author of the study in the post...), is just not a good look, very much beta male behavior, slew like..
                                                      Ask me if I give a shit about what nameless, faceless, forum users admires me or doesn't admire me.
                                                      As a matter of fact I'd rather be disliked for who I am than be liked for who I am not.
                                                      Just so there's no misunderstanding, and we're on the same page here...
                                                      I don't like you, and I don't respect you.

                                                      Chasing you around the boards?
                                                      Hmm, I stayed in my lane, stayed in the political sub forum to ask you to prove your lies.
                                                      (Which you have not yet by the way)
                                                      Nothing out of the normal there.

                                                      Know what's not a good look?
                                                      You chasing Jerky all the way to the "Fly Me' thread in the saloon, that's not normal.
                                                      I heard reports you sent gay porn in a pm?
                                                      I can believe that,
                                                      That's not normal.

                                                      I need a hobby you say?
                                                      I have several, my hobby and my IT career go hand in hand.

                                                      Anything else I can assist you with, ring me up, it's always a pleasure schooling you.
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                                                      • Emily_Haines
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                                                        • 04-14-09
                                                        • 15917

                                                        #28
                                                        80 billion for more IRS agents

                                                        Yeah, that’s going to help that record low 29% approval rating.
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                                                        • rkelly110
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                                                          • 10-05-09
                                                          • 39691

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                          80 billion for more IRS agents

                                                          Yeah, that’s going to help that record low 29% approval rating.
                                                          Joe don't give a F. He said he won't run again.
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                                                          • b1slickguy
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                                                            • 11-24-11
                                                            • 11959

                                                            #30
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                                                            • Greget
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-01-10
                                                              • 10516

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                              The bill is 100% paid for with tax hikes on billionaires. The right can't meme.
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                                                              • Emily_Haines
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 15917

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Greget
                                                                The bill is 100% paid for with tax hikes on billionaires. The right can't meme.
                                                                Literally everyone making over $30K will have their taxes increased and 50% of tax increases in the bill would come from people making less than $400K per year.
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                                                                • Greget
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-01-10
                                                                  • 10516

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                                  Literally everyone making over $30K will have their taxes increased and 50% of tax increases in the bill would come from people making less than $400K per year.
                                                                  Wrong. Another lie from the forum's pathological liar, there's a reason you never post a link.
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                                                                  • b1slickguy
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-24-11
                                                                    • 11959

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Greget
                                                                    Wrong. Another lie from the forum's pathological liar, there's a reason you never post a link.
                                                                    The link below is what everyone is referencing.
                                                                    No denying the fact of raising taxes.


                                                                    Originally posted by b1slickguy



                                                                    "...no one making under $400K will see their federal taxes go up. Period."

                                                                    Here's the proposed tax increases through 2031 from the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. Notice those making $30K or more will see tax increases.

                                                                    https://www.finance.senate.gov/imo/m...uction_act.pdf
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                                                                    • Emily_Haines
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                                                                      • 04-14-09
                                                                      • 15917

                                                                      #35
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