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  • mezmurized2
    SBR MVP
    • 12-02-19
    • 1232

    #1
    Modern Presidents and economic deficits...
    PolitiFACT article that arose from this Tweet July 23, 2019:


    Alex Cole @acnewsitics

    • Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion.
    • Bush 41 took it (up) to 300 billion.
    • Clinton got it (down) to ZERO.
    • Bush 43 took it from zero (up) to 1.2 trillion.
    • Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion.
    • Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion.

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    "Here's how the deficit performed
    under Republican and Democratic presidents,
    from Reagan to Trump"


    "Now let’s take a closer look at each president’s impact
    on the federal deficit.

    To check the numbers in Cole’s tweet,
    we went to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
    which has an interactive database for these kinds of figures.

    Here’s what we found for each claim Cole made:

    "Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion."
    This is more or less accurate.
    The federal deficit went from about $78.9 billion at the beginning
    of Reagan’s presidency to $152.6 billion at the end of it. At points
    between 1983 and 1986, the deficit was actually more than $175 billion.



    "George H.W. Bush took it (up) to 300 billion."
    Close, but not exactly. The number was around $255 billion
    at the end of Bush’s term. The deficit spiked at around
    $290.3 billion the year before he left office.



    "Clinton got it (down) to ZERO!"
    This is true.
    During his presidency, Clinton managed to zero out the deficit
    and end his term with a $128.2 billion surplus!!



    "G W. Bush took it from 0 (way up) to 1.2 trillion."
    This is in the ballpark. Ignoring the fact that he actually started
    his presidency with a $128.2 billion surplus, Bush left
    office in 2009 with a federal deficit of roughly $1.41 trillion.



    "Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion."
    This is essentially accurate.
    Obama left the presidency with a deficit of approximately
    $584.6 billion, which is more than halving $1.41 trillion.
    The deficit was even lower in 2015 at around $441.9 billion.



    "Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion... "

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/trhtkaq
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  • Thor4140
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-09-08
    • 22296

    #2
    Originally posted by mezmurized2
    PolitiFACT article that arose from this Tweet July 23, 2019:


    Alex Cole @acnewsitics

    • Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion.
    • Bush 41 took it (up) to 300 billion.
    • Clinton got it (down) to ZERO.
    • Bush 43 took it from zero (up) to 1.2 trillion.
    • Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion.
    • Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Here's how the deficit performed
    under Republican and Democratic presidents,
    from Reagan to Trump"


    "Now let’s take a closer look at each president’s impact
    on the federal deficit.

    To check the numbers in Cole’s tweet,
    we went to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
    which has an interactive database for these kinds of figures.

    Here’s what we found for each claim Cole made:

    "Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion."
    This is more or less accurate.
    The federal deficit went from about $78.9 billion at the beginning
    of Reagan’s presidency to $152.6 billion at the end of it. At points
    between 1983 and 1986, the deficit was actually more than $175 billion.



    "George H.W. Bush took it (up) to 300 billion."
    Close, but not exactly. The number was around $255 billion
    at the end of Bush’s term. The deficit spiked at around
    $290.3 billion the year before he left office.



    "Clinton got it (down) to ZERO!"
    This is true.
    During his presidency, Clinton managed to zero out the deficit
    and end his term with a $128.2 billion surplus!!



    "G W. Bush took it from 0 (way up) to 1.2 trillion."
    This is in the ballpark. Ignoring the fact that he actually started
    his presidency with a $128.2 billion surplus, Bush left
    office in 2009 with a federal deficit of roughly $1.41 trillion.



    "Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion."
    This is essentially accurate.
    Obama left the presidency with a deficit of approximately
    $584.6 billion, which is more than halving $1.41 trillion.
    The deficit was even lower in 2015 at around $441.9 billion.



    "Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion... "

    Source: https://tinyurl.com/trhtkaq
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    Good try but this means absolutely nothing to these brain dead easily manipulated brainless clowns. All they know is when a democrat is president scream deficit and debt. when a republican is in charge don't even mention it. Numbers don't lie. con artist do.
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    • mezmurized2
      SBR MVP
      • 12-02-19
      • 1232

      #3
      PolitiFACT article that arose from this Tweet July 23, 2019:


      Alex Cole @acnewsitics


      • Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion.
      • Bush 41 took it (up) to 300 billion.
      • Clinton got it (down) to ZERO.
      • Bush 43 took it from zero (up) to 1.2 trillion.
      • Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion.
      • Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion.


      -------------------------------------------------------------------------

      "Here's how the deficit performed
      under Republican and Democratic presidents,
      from Reagan to Trump"


      "Now let’s take a closer look at each president’s impact
      on the federal deficit.

      To check the numbers in Cole’s tweet,
      we went to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
      which has an interactive database for these kinds of figures.

      Here’s what we found for each claim Cole made:

      "Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion."
      This is more or less accurate.
      The federal deficit went from about $78.9 billion at the beginning
      of Reagan’s presidency to $152.6 billion at the end of it. At points
      between 1983 and 1986, the deficit was actually more than $175 billion.



      "George H.W. Bush took it (up) to 300 billion."
      Close, but not exactly. The number was around $255 billion
      at the end of Bush’s term. The deficit spiked at around
      $290.3 billion the year before he left office.



      "Clinton got it (down) to ZERO!"
      This is true.
      During his presidency, Clinton managed to zero out the deficit
      and end his term with a $128.2 billion surplus!!



      "G W. Bush took it from 0 (way up) to 1.2 trillion."
      This is in the ballpark. Ignoring the fact that he actually started
      his presidency with a $128.2 billion surplus, Bush left
      office in 2009 with a federal deficit of roughly $1.41 trillion.



      "Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion."
      This is essentially accurate.
      Obama left the presidency with a deficit of approximately
      $584.6 billion, which is more than halving $1.41 trillion.
      The deficit was even lower in 2015 at around $441.9 billion.



      "Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion... "

      Source: https://tinyurl.com/trhtkaq



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      Originally posted by Thor4140
      Good try but this means absolutely nothing to these brain dead easily manipulated brainless clowns.
      All they know is when a democrat is president scream deficit and debt.
      When a republican is in charge don't even mention it.
      Numbers don't lie. con artist do.
      Unfortunate that so many partisans REFUSE to let the facts
      (just like those posted above) get in the way of their agenda/narrative...
      TRUTH matters little to them; only what affirms their personal biases.
      I prefer to remain objective, and willing to alter my views based on new
      evidence... and if needed, admit when I'm wrong.

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      Last edited by mezmurized2; 05-08-20, 06:41 AM.
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      • mezmurized2
        SBR MVP
        • 12-02-19
        • 1232

        #4
        Originally posted by mezmurized2
        PolitiFACT article that arose from this Tweet July 23, 2019:


        Alex Cole @acnewsitics

        • Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion.
        • Bush 41 took it (up) to 300 billion.
        • Clinton got it (down) to ZERO.
        • Bush 43 took it from zero (up) to 1.2 trillion.
        • Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion.
        • Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion.

        -------------------------------------------------------------------------

        "Here's how the deficit performed
        under Republican and Democratic presidents,
        from Reagan to Trump"


        "Now let’s take a closer look at each president’s impact
        on the federal deficit.

        To check the numbers in Cole’s tweet,
        we went to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
        which has an interactive database for these kinds of figures.

        Here’s what we found for each claim Cole made:

        "Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion."
        This is more or less accurate.
        The federal deficit went from about $78.9 billion at the beginning
        of Reagan’s presidency to $152.6 billion at the end of it. At points
        between 1983 and 1986, the deficit was actually more than $175 billion.



        "George H.W. Bush took it (up) to 300 billion."
        Close, but not exactly. The number was around $255 billion
        at the end of Bush’s term. The deficit spiked at around
        $290.3 billion the year before he left office.



        "Clinton got it (down) to ZERO!"
        This is true.
        During his presidency, Clinton managed to zero out the deficit
        and end his term with a $128.2 billion surplus!!



        "G W. Bush took it from 0 (way up) to 1.2 trillion."
        This is in the ballpark. Ignoring the fact that he actually started
        his presidency with a $128.2 billion surplus, Bush left
        office in 2009 with a federal deficit of roughly $1.41 trillion.



        "Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion."
        This is essentially accurate.
        Obama left the presidency with a deficit of approximately
        $584.6 billion, which is more than halving $1.41 trillion.
        The deficit was even lower in 2015 at around $441.9 billion.


        "Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion... "

        Source: https://tinyurl.com/trhtkaq
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        Trump's US deficit to soar to
        record $3.8 trillion in 2020



        Article:
        WASHINGTON (Reuters) -
        A steep economic downturn and massive coronavirus rescue spending will
        nearly quadruple the fiscal 2020 budget deficit to a record $3.8 trillion,
        a staggering 18.7% of U.S. economic output, a Washington-based watchdog
        group said on Monday.

        The estimates follow the U.S. Treasury’s report on Friday of a $744 billion
        budget deficit in the six months through March 30, which included
        minimal impact from the outbreak of the new coronavirus.

        Source:
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        • Wabashwonders
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-28-20
          • 813

          #5
          Republicans don’t like talking about spending unless a Democrat is in office. That’s a fact!!
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          • mezmurized2
            SBR MVP
            • 12-02-19
            • 1232

            #6
            Originally posted by Wabashwonders
            Republicans don’t like talking about spending unless a Democrat is in office. That’s a fact!!
            Apparently


            Meanwhile....


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            Trump's US deficit to soar to
            record $3.8 trillion in 2020


            Source:
            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN21V1TA
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            • mezmurized2
              SBR MVP
              • 12-02-19
              • 1232

              #7
              Originally posted by mezmurized2
              PolitiFACT article that arose from this Tweet July 23, 2019:


              Alex Cole @acnewsitics

              • Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion.
              • Bush 41 took it (up) to 300 billion.
              • Clinton got it (down) to ZERO.
              • Bush 43 took it from zero (up) to 1.2 trillion.
              • Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion.
              • Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion.

              -------------------------------------------------------------------------

              "Here's how the deficit performed
              under Republican and Democratic presidents,
              from Reagan to Trump"


              "Now let’s take a closer look at each president’s impact
              on the federal deficit.

              To check the numbers in Cole’s tweet,
              we went to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis,
              which has an interactive database for these kinds of figures.

              Here’s what we found for each claim Cole made:

              "Reagan took the deficit from 70 billion (up) to 175 billion."
              This is more or less accurate.
              The federal deficit went from about $78.9 billion at the beginning
              of Reagan’s presidency to $152.6 billion at the end of it. At points
              between 1983 and 1986, the deficit was actually more than $175 billion.



              "George H.W. Bush took it (up) to 300 billion."
              Close, but not exactly. The number was around $255 billion
              at the end of Bush’s term. The deficit spiked at around
              $290.3 billion the year before he left office.



              "Clinton got it (down) to ZERO!"
              This is true.
              During his presidency, Clinton managed to zero out the deficit
              and end his term with a $128.2 billion surplus!!



              "G W. Bush took it from 0 (way up) to 1.2 trillion."
              This is in the ballpark. Ignoring the fact that he actually started
              his presidency with a $128.2 billion surplus, Bush left
              office in 2009 with a federal deficit of roughly $1.41 trillion.



              "Obama halved it (down) to 600 billion."
              This is essentially accurate.
              Obama left the presidency with a deficit of approximately
              $584.6 billion, which is more than halving $1.41 trillion.
              The deficit was even lower in 2015 at around $441.9 billion.



              "Trump’s got it back (up) to a trillion... "

              Source: https://tinyurl.com/trhtkaq
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              America Is On Track For
              A $4 Trillion Deficit In 2020.


              " Altogether, these policies add up to a 2020 budget deficit totaling between $4 trillion and $5 trillion, which would equate to roughly 20% of GDP (the total value of goods and services produced by the economy this year).

              For context, that’s
              more than twice the size of the largest deficit run
              by the Obama Administration as a percent of GDP
              (and roughly triples it in dollar terms) ! "


              Source:

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              • rkelly110
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 10-05-09
                • 39691

                #8
                To be fair, moscow mitch the bitch said a little something about it just before signing..........
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                • mjsuax13
                  Moderator
                  • 03-14-15
                  • 24813

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wabashwonders
                  Republicans don’t like talking about spending unless a Democrat is in office. That’s a fact!!
                  Confirmed FACT. Rand Paul? Tea Party?
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                  • Turd Ferguson
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-26-10
                    • 7260

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                    Good try but this means absolutely nothing to these brain dead easily manipulated brainless clowns. All they know is when a democrat is president scream deficit and debt. when a republican is in charge don't even mention it. Numbers don't lie. con artist do.


                    "Obamagate" is a thing but this isn't...
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                    • goduke
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-17-10
                      • 11580

                      #11
                      Good points. But it’s also sad on the voters part that this is allowed to happen and that we as a society continue to elect officials and allow this behavior
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