Would you sit at a Shorthanded PLO ringwith a player that has 17 buyins on table

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • mighty maron
    SBR MVP
    • 04-20-09
    • 4215

    #1
    Would you sit at a Shorthanded PLO ringwith a player that has 17 buyins on table
    Wanted to play some $ .5/$1.00 PLO ring this morning. Saw a sixhanded table with two openings. One of the players had 1.7k on the table...equating to 17 buy in's.

    Positive is that if you have the nuts he will probably pay it off.

    Negative ..any sorta of draw...You have set he has flush draw.. he will never back down.

    Every hand he pots pre because he can and the preflop hands run much closer than NLHE.

    Would you play at this table or not?
  • RedSox88
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-18-11
    • 912

    #2
    mighty,

    I have been playing poker for over 5 years - two of which were semi professional (living off only poker and a 20 hr a week job)

    Anyways I can honestly tell you it's a good sitution

    Couple reasons:

    First off is that its .5/1 and most people who r pro or REALLY know the game would be at higher limites so this auto tells us this guy probably doesnt have the experience needed to handle the stack he has

    PLO is a variance game to the max he could have literally ran hot for 2 hours to get that stack

    As long as he is sitting there and not leaving that tells you right away he wants more or is greedy, anyone who wins 17 buyings would normally call it a good day and be gone

    Reason he isnt leaving is for two reasons:

    1. He wants more

    2. hes going to try to push you around with less quality hands

    Buy in wait for your spot and get it all in against him

    Variance is a bitch and you might not win but in this game all you can do is look back and as long as your +EV you'll do fine.

    if you see this situation again:

    Sit down, buy in, wait and get it all in good

    win or lose all you can do is get it all in good

    I play by a sytem called pokertracker 3 which calculated literally everything but two most important stats:

    My EV and my profits

    EV just means what I should have won taking all the luck out of the game

    Profits is what i actually one

    Two moths ago my graph showed an EV of +$2,450 and my profits showed $-1,350 which means i ran almost 4K below EV! which is a sick run bad but that doesnt bother me as long as i pick up positive EV every session thats all i care about

    GL
    Comment
    • nomeansno
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-01-10
      • 585

      #3
      1. Bunch of people make a decent living playing .5-1 nlhe or plo, even just from rakeback, so that statement is false.
      2. Also, if you lived off of poker, you would have the mindset of a pro which is you don't play for x amount of money a day, rather than x amount of hours, so why would he need to sit out? If he has an edge, he wants to win more. If he is a pro he's not gonna play that much different just cause he has a big stack, only against bigger stacks.

      All this said he could still be a fish on a heater, but you shouldn't jump to these false conclusions right away

      Also lol at "I play by a sytem called pokertracker 3"
      Comment
      • RudyRuetigger
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-24-10
        • 65084

        #4
        Originally posted by RedSox88

        Variance is a bitch and you might not win but in this game all you can do is look back and as long as your +EV you'll do fine.
        This is the only sentence worth reading but the question can't be answered without knowing how many buyins you have at .5/1, if you care to reload your account etc etc
        Last edited by RudyRuetigger; 01-28-12, 10:05 AM.
        Comment
        • mighty maron
          SBR MVP
          • 04-20-09
          • 4215

          #5
          the funds I have on the site would not give me adequate bankroll for that level. I would consider the minimum bank for a PLO ring game where $1 is the big blind to be 5k. 50 buyins at max starting stack of 100 when you sit down.

          I did not sit, but just watched. He gave back 250 or so of it. He would c-bet after almost always pre flop potting unless the board was connected in a scary way like QJT. Any rag tag flop he would pot..

          It was enjoyable to watchl..
          Comment
          • RedSox88
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-18-11
            • 912

            #6
            To RUDY and NOMEANSNO

            1. You have absolutley no idea what you are talking about

            2. If you dont know what pokertracker 3 is you're an idiot 80% of online pro use it to track stats.

            3. Mightys last statement said it all people who are up tend to play bad and he dumped some back

            4. If you think hes a pro just cause he ran up a stack in the most variance based poker game out there you sir are a retard

            sorry you had to here those stupid remarks from sports better who clearly dont understand poker mighty
            Comment
            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #7
              please don't make me dissect your post.

              first of all pokertracker isnt a "sytem", its a software.

              second, you first talk about how bad .5/1 players are...this must mean you are playing atleast 3/6 correct? ()...running 7 buyins below EV at a game like that for the month isn't a shock, that happens daily ...even if you are playing 2/4 you ran 10 buyins below expected value and claim it to be a sick run??

              third, i love how AIEV and profits are your most important stats to look at
              Last edited by RudyRuetigger; 01-28-12, 04:42 PM.
              Comment
              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65084

                #8
                Originally posted by mighty maron
                the funds I have on the site would not give me adequate bankroll for that level. I would consider the minimum bank for a PLO ring game where $1 is the big blind to be 5k. 50 buyins at max starting stack of 100 when you sit down.

                I did not sit, but just watched. He gave back 250 or so of it. He would c-bet after almost always pre flop potting unless the board was connected in a scary way like QJT. Any rag tag flop he would pot..

                It was enjoyable to watchl..
                sounds pretty standard at that level.

                up 17buyins I think we can throw the donkey tag out....

                back when i use to play i wanted to find fish...as i wanted to work my way up in the stakes id sit with the better people...too many times in situations like this i let the game turn into a pissing match instead of concentrating on getting better.
                Comment
                • RedSox88
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-18-11
                  • 912

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                  sounds pretty standard at that level.

                  up 17buyins I think we can throw the donkey tag out....

                  back when i use to play i wanted to find fish...as i wanted to work my way up in the stakes id sit with the better people...too many times in situations like this i let the game turn into a pissing match instead of concentrating on getting better.
                  youre joking right? you cant be serious?

                  Some guys up 17 buyins and hes god?? hahaha you sir are not only wrong but should stay away from poker

                  Anyone up alot of money in PLO we can not refer to as a donkey?

                  Son you need to check your facts people who dont know what a full house is can win thousands at omaha

                  Stick to your losing sports betting ways and leave poker to the guy whose played it for a living

                  And yes I play 2/5 and 4000 below EV is still bad

                  Stop trolling
                  Comment
                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65084

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RedSox88
                    youre joking right? you cant be serious?

                    Some guys up 17 buyins and hes god??


                    i said he probably isnt a donkey and out of that you assume i called him god?

                    i have never met 1 winning player that called pokertracker a system, nor have i heard of a winning player having stop/losses unless you are not capable of swings


                    go back to bbv
                    Comment
                    • robert_wrath
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-16-09
                      • 2122

                      #11
                      His stack size will reflect Loose Play among these stakes. If indeed you feel the need to play, Sit to His Left (for position) & Tag Him thru your HUD. I'll place strong emphasis on "Nut Hands ONLY" play until you've acquired enough info on his level of thinking.
                      Comment
                      • Shaudius
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-21-10
                        • 1112

                        #12
                        Originally posted by robert_wrath
                        His stack size will reflect Loose Play among these stakes. If indeed you feel the need to play, Sit to His Left (for position) & Tag Him thru your HUD. I'll place strong emphasis on "Nut Hands ONLY" play until you've acquired enough info on his level of thinking.
                        The problem is that in PLO the hands bleed together, yes there are premium hands, but the advantage they hold over any other holding if he's loose is not that great, you will win over time against a player like this playing only premium hands, but the variance will kill you since he can probably outlast you just on the stretch of his huge buy-in advantage.
                        Comment
                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65084

                          #13
                          i need a shower after entering this thread trying to be helpful. i feel dirty.

                          2 known stiffs

                          hey redsox, you are a 2/5 pro but have to stiff sbr points?
                          Comment
                          SBR Contests
                          Collapse
                          Top-Rated US Sportsbooks
                          Collapse
                          Working...