So Bodog lowers all sit'n'go payous by 10% but keeps the rake the same?

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  • BigDofBA
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-30-09
    • 19313

    #1
    So Bodog lowers all sit'n'go payous by 10% but keeps the rake the same?
    What kind of crock of shit is this?

    For example, you used to play $6, $11 games ect. but now they are only $5, $10, ect. but the rake is the same amount.

    So instead of winning say $22 when you play an $11 game, you only win $20 but Bodog still gets the same rake.

    LMAO. What a joke.

    I'm not buying this shit that taking away players names makes anything more fare either. Adjusting your game to your opponent is a big part of poker. I had notes on hundreds of people there and I always look up my opponent to see what kind of player they are.

    Play at a table with a bunch of no ones sucks. Period.
  • sinmiedo
    SBR MVP
    • 03-10-10
    • 2698

    #2
    you see, in my oppinion that is very beneficial for the game.
    taking away that info makes the game more realisticly human ,
    like in real life
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    • BigDofBA
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-30-09
      • 19313

      #3
      Originally posted by sinmiedo
      you see, in my oppinion that is very beneficial for the game.
      taking away that info makes the game more realisticly human ,
      like in real life
      So walk into a casino and tell the dealer to blindfold everyone so you can't remember who is raising you with junk or calling with anything.

      Getting to know opponents tendencies is part of the game. Isn't Poker a game of information?

      What's from stopping me from calling three buddies and having them join the same table. We could raise everyone out of the pot and split the money. No one would know because we would be players 1-9 every game.

      See how stupid it is?
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      • BigDofBA
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-30-09
        • 19313

        #4
        Taking away information is advantageous to the novice player. I think this was done on purpose along with the increase in rake just so Bodog could make more money.

        With the rigged casino and Horribly over juiced lines, Bodog should have to do this.

        A big reason I bet on sports there is because I can play poker but these changes might make me take my business elsewhere.
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        • hels
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-12-09
          • 8767

          #5
          Dirty moves by bodog.

          It's smart on their part to make money as it takes away an experienced players knowledge of opponents. Therefore it gives the novice player a better EV, meaning profits are more likely to be shared.
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          • MarlinsFan2212
            SBR MVP
            • 04-19-10
            • 1325

            #6
            Its 9 Players instead of 10 now. They didnt adjust the payout.
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            • nosniboR11
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-02-08
              • 10042

              #7
              sin you have lost your mind
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              • BigDofBA
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-30-09
                • 19313

                #8
                Originally posted by MarlinsFan2212
                Its 9 Players instead of 10 now. They didnt adjust the payout.
                For heads up games they did.
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                • mrmarket
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-26-10
                  • 4953

                  #9
                  LMAO @ sin reasoning.
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                  • BodogBecky
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-28-09
                    • 579

                    #10
                    FYI, here are some words from Bodog Network VP on why these changes were made along with the upgrade:

                    Jonas Odman on the Bodog Network Software Update
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                    • oiler
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-06-09
                      • 6585

                      #11
                      i think they are doing everthing they can to get rid of american players and this just might do it
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                      • BigDofBA
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-30-09
                        • 19313

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BodogBecky
                        FYI, here are some words from Bodog Network VP on why these changes were made along with the upgrade:

                        Jonas Odman on the Bodog Network Software Update
                        So Bodog even admits that they made the moves to help recreational players.

                        In other words, they are catering to the people that lose money.

                        I think this is a horrible move. Bodog thinks that this will increase their revenue but it's really going to drive a lot of players away and they will lose business.

                        The only reason I gamble on sports there is because I play poker there. I win money from people playing poker and lose it on sports. Bodog still makes their rake and then they get some of the money I win from others back.

                        Now I'm just going to leave so they won't get my rake or any other money I would have gambled because the poker attracted me.

                        The guy that wrote this article is ignorant if he thinks playing against a bunch of people with the usernames 1,2,3,4,5 ect. enhances the experience.
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                        • BodogBecky
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 07-28-09
                          • 579

                          #13
                          Originally posted by oiler
                          i think they are doing everthing they can to get rid of american players and this just might do it
                          This is not true at all- the company that owns and runs the bodog.eu software and operations (MMGG) will be rebranding itself as of Jan 1, 2012 and will continue to welcome US players as usual. This newly branded site will also be a part of the Bodog Network.
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                          • sinmiedo
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-10-10
                            • 2698

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nosniboR11
                            sin you have lost your mind
                            Not at all.
                            What i found is that ( i like many players ) have soft spots in my game.
                            So when your opponent has that info avilable they will exploide that to the max, of course i change my play all the time, but, i found that great difference when i play on line or life.
                            When i drop to my local casino I usually have no idea of the others players abilities so i after a while I can make some reads or tendencies. Like many of you I made those notes and play acordenly.
                            What Bodog has done is ( in my view) that for the good player that can makes reads, there will be no problem adjusting to the table withn a few hands, and of course not prejudging all the time,.
                            Also it has made it clear to ( in my oppinion) that any history is useless as well as computer assitence soft, leaving your capacity to make the desicion you need to make, and play less robotic poker and more creative poker.
                            Again, many of you will desagree, and i m fine with this, i m not a pro or anything like it , and at the end of the day, no one has master this game, because is like they said, it takes 10 minutes to learn how to play and a life time to "try" to master.
                            Best regards to all
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                            • BeerDog99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-10
                              • 4894

                              #15
                              Hey Sin, In my opinion, the issue is that when you and I go to Niagara, you see people and you can start to make assessments on how they play and therefore how you will play them. Also, between trips, there are guys that you remember and again can adjust your play appropriately.

                              Whether you agree or disagree with the use of software tools to help you remember data and also present it (i.e. a HUD), this has nothing to do with software and Bodog has essentially prevented us to even approach the live remembering we all can and do if you want to be a successful poker player.

                              When every player is Player 1-9, there is nothing you can do to remember (via your brain or software) that player in a session or across multiple sessions. The blind folded analogy is very appropriate. You would never play a live game blindfolded so why would you want to do that online?

                              Cheers and good luck!
                              Last edited by BeerDog99; 12-02-11, 07:11 PM.
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                              • sinmiedo
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-10-10
                                • 2698

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BeerDog99
                                Hey Sin, In my opinion, the issue is that when you and I go to Niagara, you see people and you can start to make assessments on how they play and therefore how you will play them. Also, between trips, there are guys that you remember and again can adjust your play appropriately.

                                Whether you agree or disagree with the use of software tools to help you remember data and also present it (i.e. a HUD), this has nothing to do with software and Bodog has essentially prevented us to even approach the live remembering we all can and do if you want to be a successful poker player.

                                When every player is Player 1-9, there is nothing you can do to remember (via your brain or software) that player in a session or across multiple sessions. The blind folded analogy is very appropriate. You would never play a live game blindfolded so why would you want to do that online?

                                Cheers and good luck!
                                Ok, fine, but in my case, in particular, when i participate in any long torunament as the ones in ps.with 2000 and sometimes 10000 players i dot remeber or had notes on any of them or them on me. however, as you know i m very succesful on them as well as the bodog's one.
                                because i play more tournaments than cash, i do not mind this at all, and now when i play the cash games i treat them as very short tournaments, adjusting almost inmediatly to the table.
                                again is my view point and my feeling, i m not a succesfull on line cash player as you know but my reads are usually on the spot and acordign to that particular moment in time, but as for now, i m very succesfull in my last 3 sesions of online cash games, very very profitable like never before, on line in any level and also i noticed that of course the way that players play has changed or adjusted.
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