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  • crjohnson32
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-16-10
    • 989

    #1
    tilt rant
    goddamn poker

    I'm playing the 10:00

    got 4000 chips....raise to 700 preflop with AK suited.....guy raises me back 1400......I raise all in....he insta calls and rolls over KQ unsuited and spikes a queen to take the pot.

    At what fvxking point in history after being raised 3.25x the big blind and then being re-raised all in, after you doubled the initial raise, would anyone think their KQ off suit is the best hand preflop???

    I don't even call that lucky, just barbaric stupidity that pays off. To win multi table tourney's you have to win several coin flips. You get your money in and its 50/50. Winning multiple coin flips is what I consider lucky in a tourney.

    But to genuinely think that your KQ off suit after being raised 3.5x the big blind, then raised all in after doubling my initial raise, preflop, is the best hand is absolute trailer trash poker.

    Just FYI.....AK wins 75% of the time preflop vs KQ.

    It's not the fact that this guy got lucky this pisses me off....it's that, the way this hand played out he had to genuinely beleive his KQ was good preflop, which is ludicrous after I raised 3.25x the bb, then pushed all in after he doubled my initial raise. Absolutely nothing about that sequence of events should leave you thinking your KQ is the best hand.

    ok I'm done....and I do feel better for those of you that will ask sarcastically
  • daneblazer
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 09-14-08
    • 27861

    #2
    I've seen worse.
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    • crjohnson32
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-16-10
      • 989

      #3
      I've seen worse beats too, it's not even the bad beat that pissed me off. It's just how for him to commit his 4000 chips preflop he had to believe his KQ was the best hand, which is completely baffling to me.
      For him to beleive he had the best hand in that situation is what pissed me off.
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      • borednaz
        SBR MVP
        • 08-28-10
        • 3809

        #4
        People here call a flush possible board, all in with only top pair say K3 on a K flop, not having a single card to the flush or decent kicker all the time. And of course all the time they get rewarded on the turn or the river here for such blatantly bad play. In Sbr poker, real poker odds mean nothing.
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        • crjohnson32
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-16-10
          • 989

          #5
          Originally posted by borednaz
          People here call a flush possible board, all in with only top pair say K3 on a K flop, not having a single card to the flush or decent kicker all the time. And of course all the time they get rewarded on the turn or the river here for such blatantly bad play. In Sbr poker, real poker odds mean nothing.
          I know

          but in this case I'm sure for him to have called his brain must have deduced that his KQ was the best hand. He just sat and played in a tourney for more than an hour, so he had to of thought that he had the best hand in order to commit his entire stack of over 20 big blinds to the pot preflop. Which is of course absolute lunacy given the way the hand played out.

          I mean how many times have you been raised twice preflop, once 3.5x the big blind, then again all in for 20 big blinds and thought to yourself "I bet my KQ off suit is the best preflop hand"?
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          • beerman2619
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-24-09
            • 7752

            #6
            My last 2 days of poker. Went all in with 1400 chips yesterday before flop with aces. Guy calls who had 2000 chips with ace 9. Flop comes jack 9 2 course the turn is another 9 i lose. Today guy raises 300 i call before flop with jack 10 suited. Flop comes 8 jack jack i'm like sweet. So i go all in the original raiser calls me. I'm like what does he have aces or something of course he has jack king. I lose with trips do to him having a higher kicker. Thats poker ha just got to laugh it off. Alot of it is luck and i haven't had any lately. Just one of those stretches.
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            • daneblazer
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 09-14-08
              • 27861

              #7
              And if he folds to your reraise or you river the ace, life is a field of daisies and this thread is never made.

              You got the situation you wanted, just not the result. Would it have been better if he called with AQ, PP, or Aces?
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              • crjohnson32
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 12-16-10
                • 989

                #8
                Originally posted by beerman2619
                My last 2 days of poker. Went all in with 1400 chips yesterday before flop with aces. Guy calls who had 2000 chips with ace 9. Flop comes jack 9 2 course the turn is another 9 i lose. Today guy raises 300 i call before flop with jack 10 suited. Flop comes 8 jack jack i'm like sweet. So i go all in the original raiser calls me. I'm like what does he have aces or something of course he has jack king. I lose with trips do to him having a higher kicker. Thats poker ha just got to laugh it off. Alot of it is luck and i haven't had any lately. Just one of those stretches.
                I think the most frustrating part for me is not getting unlucky.
                It's knowing that the guys you get unlucky to, in many cases, genuinely beleives they had the better hand when committing their chips. Somehow their brain has deduced that the best course of action would be to call or raise all in because surely they have the best hand based on how it's played out so far.

                It's frustrating knowing that there is only a split second between them realizing they made a wrong decision, and forgetting about it because they hit the 3 outer, and then not learning from their obvious mistake and carrying on with the same archaic style of poker.
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                • crjohnson32
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-16-10
                  • 989

                  #9
                  Originally posted by daneblazer
                  And if he folds to your reraise or you river the ace, life is a field of daisies and this thread is never made.

                  You got the situation you wanted, just not the result. Would it have been better if he called with AQ, PP, or Aces?
                  other than AA or KK, I was confident that worse case scenario is a coin flip. To go deep in tourney's you have to win coin flips, so if I lose a coin flip that's fine because I understand the nature of multi table tourney's.
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                  • Carseller4
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-22-09
                    • 19627

                    #10
                    You get enough 27's 49's or crap hands in a row, KQ off might look real good to someone.
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                    • crjohnson32
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 12-16-10
                      • 989

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Carseller4
                      You get enough 27's 49's or crap hands in a row, KQ off might look real good to someone.
                      based on the 5 all in bets I saw you make in the span of 3 min with well over 10 big blinds in front of you I'm sure you've been involved in plenty of KQoff all in bets after being reraised twice preflop.
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                      • BeerDog99
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-10
                        • 4894

                        #12
                        crjohnson32, Dane's point about wanting the guy to call with that crap and not geting the "right" result is correct but I totally understand the frustration of your position.

                        I too have asked myself that question when people call me with crap and get lucky. I just try and laugh at the person's inane reasoning that is was a correct move... :-)
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                        • zsr
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-01-10
                          • 4117

                          #13
                          Originally posted by crjohnson32

                          based on the 5 all in bets I saw you make in the span of 3 min with well over 10 big blinds in front of you I'm sure you've been involved in plenty of KQoff all in bets after being reraised twice preflop.
                          So many table captains on this site, so annoying. Who cares how other people play
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                          • daneblazer
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-14-08
                            • 27861

                            #14
                            If everyone played flawlessly...well...there wouldn't be much money in poker. Everyone just sitting around at a table at the paragon of their poker game talking about how great of a player they are, while merely trading chips and all losing because the only winner at the table would be the rake. On the other hand, there would probably be a lot less bitchy poker players. Not sure why you're complaining here.
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                            • BeerDog99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-22-10
                              • 4894

                              #15
                              Originally posted by daneblazer
                              If everyone played flawlessly...well...there wouldn't be much money in poker. Everyone just sitting around at a table at the paragon of their poker game talking about how great of a player they are, while merely trading chips and all losing because the only winner at the table would be the rake. On the other hand, there would probably be a lot less bitchy poker players. Not sure why you're complaining here.

                              LOL, stop being so logical...

                              Let a guy rant a bit...
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                              • k13
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-16-10
                                • 18104

                                #16
                                Yes it is annoying. This is everyday. People don't know when they are supposed to fold.

                                Then we have to listen to how great they are because they have x amount of points on the leaderboard. Short term variance is great.

                                Stacks 3000 each, typical SBR top 20 player limps in for 200 utg +1, I shove pre from the SB, he calls with 44....lol I have QQ

                                .........
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                                • k13
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-16-10
                                  • 18104

                                  #17
                                  Problem with bad players in tournaments is they kill your equity. Even if you are 75% ahead they are putting you at risk.

                                  It be fine if we could play 16 tables at once but we can't here.
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                                  • Coachep
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-28-08
                                    • 129

                                    #18
                                    Fact of the matter is free poker=shitty poker. People have no problem going all in with shitty hands on a hunch when they dont lose anything for being stupid. The best you can do is play conservative until most of the donks are out and then hope the people at the final table got there by knowing how to play.
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                                    • dabomguy11
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-28-11
                                      • 558

                                      #19
                                      Lol, this is your classic "They ain't respecting my raises!". You realize that you make money in the long run every time they make a call like that, right?
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                                      • Cuse0323
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 12-09-09
                                        • 30169

                                        #20
                                        is this really another complaint about a free sbr tourney. lose a 2 dime pot to a 2 outer on the river and you can complain a little bit.
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