anyone have any opinions on this poker tourny they have posted at pinny

**Dead Money** · 11-18-05, 08:23 PM

I hate to say it but I like Hellmuth's chances.

Anyone of those choices are fully capable of winning it though.

**bigboydan** · 11-18-05, 08:39 PM

i see him at +560 DM. do you feel the odds are about right, or a little short on him ?

**slacker00** · 11-18-05, 10:21 PM

Players I like: Hellmuth, Juanda, Hansen in that order.
Players I dislike: Ivey, Ferguson, Matusow in that order.

Hellmuth is a decent all around player, with excellent instincts who maybe plays too conservative at times. Juanda is solid all around with solid skills. Hansen is erratic, but has the right set of skills to win these types of tournaments.

Ivey terrific at cash games but doesn't make adequate adjustments for tournaments, not worth the odds he's getting. Ferguson is a class below this entire list of players. Matusow has the talent, but not the discipline to win.

Just my opinions as a casual fan of "celebrity" TV poker.

**Illusion** · 11-18-05, 11:08 PM

You can never go wrong with Ferguson +600

**moses millsap** · 11-18-05, 11:24 PM

I'd rank them in this order in my chances to win in this setting:

1.Phil Ivey-If he's focused, there is no one better. He can easily and quickly adapt to the table dynamics.
2.Mike Matusow-Don't like his character, but guy is one of the best when he's not screwing around. A great talent at the table.
3.Gus Hansen-Don't like his game, but if he wins his coin flips, he'll be in prime position.
4.John Juanda-He's the last one I say has a serious chance.
5.Phil Hellmuth-Little chance with these guys especially if he has the aggressors to his right opening the action constantly.
6.Devilfish-Don't see it, he'll be pressured a lot by the top 3.
7.Jesus-A step below, IMHO.

**darkghost** · 11-19-05, 01:46 AM

Tough field. If everyone has equal chips its anyone's game. I'd check their chip stacks and if someone amassed a decent amount go w/ them. Also a bet against the smallest chip stack sounds good. Is this list the final table or just the top players remaining worth betting?

**juuso** · 11-19-05, 03:55 AM

Tough one. Wouldn't bet much on this. Maybe i'll put a 10 or 20 to Hansen to win. I really like watching Gus Hansens play. He's style is so unpredictable but he is a very skilled player.

**bigboydan** · 11-19-05, 04:44 AM

do you guys think Ulliott is worth a shot at +630 ?

**moses millsap** · 11-26-05, 01:53 PM

The order of finish was:

1.Ivey
2.Juanda
3.Ulliott
4.Ferguson
5.Hansen
6.Hellmuth
7.Matusow

**Lenny** · 11-26-05, 07:11 PM

Phil Ivey just won the Monte Carlo Million a couple days ago. I would say he's on his tournament game right now.