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  • SharpAngles
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-15-14
    • 9467

    #1
    Final nail in online poker's coffin?
    This cannot be good news for anyone still holding out for regulated online USA fish ponds. Start practicing your card handling and false tells boys, live poker will be the only option soon.



    WASHINGTON — Billionaire casino moguls <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Sheldon Adelson" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Sheldon Adelson</culink> and <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Steve Wynn" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Steve Wynn</culink> have joined President-elect <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Donald Trump" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Donald Trump's</culink> inaugural committee and will help raise the millions needed to pull off the Jan. 20 event.

    Wynn, Adelson and his physician wife Miriam Adelson are among 17 "finance vice chairs" announced Tuesday. Others include gambling titan <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Phil Ruffin" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Phil Ruffin</culink>, Wisconsin roofing magnate<culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Diane Hendricks" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Diane Hendricks</culink>, <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/New York Jets" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">New York Jets</culink> owner <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Woody Johnson" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Woody Johnson</culink>, Florida real-estate developer <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Mel Sembler" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Mel Sembler</culink> and Gail Icahn, wife of billionaire investor <culink class="culinks" culang="en" href="http://curiyo.com/en/topic/Carl Icahn" title="" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; cursor: help; z-index: 9000; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 22px; white-space: normal; border-bottom-style: dashed !important; display: inline !important; float: none !important; padding: 0px !important; margin: 0px !important; border-bottom-color: rgb(0, 151, 247) !important; color: rgb(51, 51, 51) !important; background-image: inherit !important; background-attachment: inherit !important; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250); background-size: inherit !important; background-origin: inherit !important; background-clip: inherit !important; background-position: inherit !important; background-repeat: inherit !important;">Carl Icahn</culink>.
  • Auto Donk
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-03-13
    • 43558

    #2
    as I often say while playing live.... "Ship it!"

    Waves' poker career is effectively over..... any guy stuck at .05/.10 nlhe online will never venture out for a 2/5 or even a 1/3 game live.....
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    • Ballerholic
      SBR MVP
      • 01-16-13
      • 2767

      #3
      Lol bye bye waves. But wouldn't online poker increase casino poker profits by growing the community? I'd love to see casino live poker statistics when online was legal back in the day vs now.
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      • Ballerholic
        SBR MVP
        • 01-16-13
        • 2767

        #4
        Also doesn't waves tell his friends he plays 5/10 online poker? Or does he just forget to mention it's on SBR.
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        • bobbywaves
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-06-08
          • 13280

          #5
          Originally posted by Auto Donk
          Waves' poker career is effectively over.
          OP & yourself are ignorant to think this will effect my online poker, or anyone else who lives in this gr8 state of Jersey.
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          • bobbywaves
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-06-08
            • 13280

            #6
            Originally posted by Ballerholic
            Also doesn't waves tell his friends he plays 5/10 online poker?
            No need to tell them...My friends are sitting at my table, colluding together.

            I only told my friends that I banged your girl.
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            • SharpAngles
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-15-14
              • 9467

              #7
              Typical "me first" welfare logic from small b.

              Thread is addressing regulation of online poker at the federal level, i.e. player pool made up of all 50 states, you fukin simpleton. Adelson is the largest single opponent of ipoker regulation so this is obviously bad news.

              P.s. You bragging about colluding, whether true or not, shows who's ignorant dipshit
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              • bobbywaves
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-06-08
                • 13280

                #8
                Originally posted by SharpAngles
                Thread is addressing regulation of online poker at the federal level, i.e. player pool made up of all 50 states, you fukin simpleton. Adelson is the largest single opponent of ipoker regulation so this is obviously bad news.
                Your ignorant thread is pure speculation on your part, how you think it will effect regulated poker. I'm willing to wager NJ doesn't lose their regulated online poker in 2017, so you shouldn't have a problem putting your measly 1600 pts where your mouth is.

                We can post up with a mutually agreed upon 3rd party.
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                • SharpAngles
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 04-15-14
                  • 9467

                  #9
                  Add reading comprehension to the list of small b's deficiencies
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                  • bobbywaves
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-06-08
                    • 13280

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SharpAngles
                    Add reading comprehension to the list of small b's deficiencies
                    I'll take your response as a "No, I don't want to bet you Waves."
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                    • SharpAngles
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 04-15-14
                      • 9467

                      #11
                      The major players in the Donald Trump administration are starting to come into focus. The president-elect has begun filling key positions, and on Friday the Trump transition team announced Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions will be Trump’s nominee for the Attorney General position.Sessions certainly has the CV for the post:
                      • 1975-1981: Assistant United States attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Alabama
                      • 1981-1993: U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Alabama
                      • 1995-1997: Attorney general of Alabama
                      • 1997-present: United States senator from Alabama

                      But he is not without baggage, which makes Senate confirmation far from a slam dunk.
                      Why the AG matters for online gambling

                      As I explained in this column, the attorney general could revisit the 2011 Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel opinion that cleared the way for states to legalize online gambling within their borders.
                      If the incoming attorney general decides to roll back the DOJ’s current online gambling position, the progress made since the OLC opinion was issued in 2011 would be threatened.
                      It’s a bit more complicated than that

                      A DOJ rollback would open a whole new can of worms, as Nevada, Delaware, and New Jerseyhave already legalized online gaming, and Michigan, Illinois, Georgia, and Kentucky have legalized online lottery sales.
                      Lawsuits would almost certainly be filed by these states, and they’d likely be joined by other states currently exploring online expansion.
                      Where Sessions stands on gambling

                      With the exception of his first two years as a United States senator, by and large, Sessions hasavoided gambling issues during his time in elected office.
                      As a strict social conservative, Sessions is undoubtedly against the expansion of gambling. But he’s also arguably a supporter of states’ rights, and might oppose a federal prohibition of online gambling on those grounds.
                      Sessions backed early online gambling prohibition efforts

                      Long before the Restoration of America’s Wire Act, and long before UIGEA, there was the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act of 1997. The bill would make it illegal to place wagers over the internet.
                      In September 1997, newly-elected Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions announced he would co-sponsor the bill.
                      “I am troubled by how easy it is for children to pick-up their parents’ ************ and gamble on the Internet,” Sessions said in a statement at the time. “This legislation is an attempt to keep-up with the rapid changes taking place in cyberspace.”
                      The bill was amended shortly thereafter, in October of 1997, and Sessions was never officially added as a co-sponsor of the legislation.
                      In 1998 Sessions voted “yea” on Senate amendment 3266 to an appropriations bill. The amendmentwould have banned online gambling in the United States.
                      More recently, Sessions has been silent on the topic

                      But since then, Sessions has largely sidestepped online gambling.

                      Bottom line

                      If he’s confirmed, Jeff Sessions wouldn’t be the worst attorney general in terms of online gambling, but his stance on the issue could go either way. Given the opportunity to support recent high-profile efforts to ban regulated online gambling at the federal level, Sessions has declined – a clear positive for supporters of regulation.
                      Even with outside pressure, AG Sessions might (rightly) conclude the 2011 OLC opinion that limits the Wire Act’s scope to sports betting is correct, especially considering it would lead to a legal fight that the prohibitionists are likely to lose.
                      Courts have sided with the current OLC interpretation of the Wire Act, even when the DOJ opinion prohibited online gambling.
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