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  • Emily_Haines
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-14-09
    • 15917

    #1
    What would you do?
    I was playing 1/2 NL and had about 500

    I call a raise with 98s (diamonds)

    Three players see a flop with $30 in pot

    Flop comes with two diamonds. I flop a flush draw.

    On the turn the flush don't come but it brings and Ace

    It checks to the guy who raised on the button, he bets $20 and me and the other guy call

    The river is a diamond

    The UTG ships his entire stack in. He bets $500+ into a $90 pot and I have 9 high flush. Never played with this guy before. He was some knob that really didn't have much experience kept folding out of turn, betting when it wasn't his turn and did it to the point where the dealer says if he does it again he is done.
  • robert_wrath
    SBR MVP
    • 07-16-09
    • 2122

    #2
    Easy fold in this situation. Shoulda bet the turn to find out how strong the opposition's holding. If & or when a 4th Diamond hits the river, you know for a fact he likely has a high card flush.
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    • TheCentaur
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-28-11
      • 8108

      #3
      Originally posted by Emily_Haines
      It checks to the guy who raised on the button, he bets $20 and me and the other guy call
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      • Emily_Haines
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-14-09
        • 15917

        #4
        Originally posted by robert_wrath
        Easy fold in this situation. Shoulda bet the turn to find out how strong the opposition's holding. If & or when a 4th Diamond hits the river, you know for a fact he likely has a high card flush.
        River was the third diamond

        There was no four flush on the board
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        • robert_wrath
          SBR MVP
          • 07-16-09
          • 2122

          #5
          Originally posted by Emily_Haines
          River was the third diamond

          There was no four flush on the board
          Sorry, I misread the post.
          When he shoved All In, did you bother to count how much was left to call?
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          • Emily_Haines
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-09
            • 15917

            #6
            Originally posted by robert_wrath
            Sorry, I misread the post.
            When he shoved All In, did you bother to count how much was left to call?
            yes, all my chips
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            • robert_wrath
              SBR MVP
              • 07-16-09
              • 2122

              #7
              Still doesn't change my decision: Fold. Why bother risking $480.00+ into a pot of $90.00 + his $???.??
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              • daneblazer
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-14-08
                • 27861

                #8
                Need more info.

                Is it a QJKA9 board? a 2 5 7 A J board? 764A5? Is the board paired? Guys like this are pretty fit or fold. You're going to have to have an extremely good read and be correct quite often for calling to be the correct move. Not to mention there's someone left to act.
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                • Emily_Haines
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-09
                  • 15917

                  #9
                  I didn't think about it that long and folded. I thought I was good but didn't want to risk all my chips to find out.

                  About five hands later the guy did the same thing only worse on a four flush board. Bet all his chips into a $15 pot and a guy with just the "K" high flush called and he showed J8 with the "8" high flush. He lost $285 making this move and was quickly felted.

                  Obviously my hand was good earlier.
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                  • robert_wrath
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-16-09
                    • 2122

                    #10
                    Difficult to fold, I know. Advanced players usually aren't looking to stack off without a high flush.
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                    • thes0vereign
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-13-12
                      • 712

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                      I didn't think about it that long and folded. I thought I was good but didn't want to risk all my chips to find out.

                      About five hands later the guy did the same thing only worse on a four flush board. Bet all his chips into a $15 pot and a guy with just the "K" high flush called and he showed J8 with the "8" high flush. He lost $285 making this move and was quickly felted.

                      Obviously my hand was good earlier.
                      Just because he bluffed the $15 pot doesn't mean he didn't have a strong hand in the $90 pot. Better you conceded the hand cheaply.
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                      • lolbear
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-10-09
                        • 756

                        #12
                        you need to be close to 85% sure to call. given an unknown opponent you are nowhere close to getting the correct odds.
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                        • GUMMO77
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-23-10
                          • 9294

                          #13
                          Good fold.

                          Unless you've played with him before or have an unbelievable read on the guy (which you say you don't), almost impossible to call in that situation.
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                          • thetrinity
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-25-11
                            • 22430

                            #14
                            ya i would have folded the 89 flush unless i had previous history.
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