Evening.....I had a total brain-cramp today and, given the opportunity for a freeplay, placed it on a wager where there could be a push (CFL total over/under 56). Well, as it turns out, exactly 56 points were scored. Experience tells me that it might be some time before this wager is graded, but what should I be expecting here? Are freeplay pushes lost in oblivion forever or is one generally given the freeplay funds to wager once again, seeing that it was a push? In any event, I learned a valuable lesson and obviously will lay any freebies in the future on a line that has a lovely 1/2 involved somewhere.
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I would call them up and ask them if they will let you try the free play again.Comment -
I suppose it depends on the individual book's T&Cs of the freeplay but the ones which I have taken have always been of the type where a push is a loss.Originally posted by pags11Originally posted by BuddyBearOriginally posted by curiousComment -
And that's always worth a try. If you don't ask, you don't get.Originally posted by DavidOriginally posted by pags11Originally posted by BuddyBearOriginally posted by curiousComment -
True...Thanks guys. I'll get in touch with them.Comment -
Some months ago i pushed a freeplay at CRIS, and they gave me a new 1. But now it is in their rules that pushes mean your FP is lost.
I think it shoudlnt be a loser, weak move from CRIS there.
If anyone has infos about that from other books, id be interested in hearing that.Comment -
Never push a freeplay. There's a long RX thread I started about this, here's the first post:
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Posts: 11,324 How to use Matchplay !
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Lets say you won $11,000 worth of matchplay bets and you could break it up into any number of bets you desire.
Here's one good way to use it.
Play all 8 ways on a 3-teamer ( with half-point lines)
$1375 to win $8250 on each. One must hit yielding $8250 !
If you broke the $11,000 into 100 plays of 110 to win 100, and went an incredible 82-18, you're 82 winners would pay $100 each for a total of $8200.
I can't pick 82%, can you ?
If book won't allow these bets, you could achieve similar results by even randomly picking 3-teamers, just bet many small 3-teamers, for example 500 3-teamers at $22 each, you'll hit about 12.5 % of them. For example 62 of the 500 hit for $132 each, yieding $8184.
Do not straight bet with match play, even worse is betting ML favorites.
Now that the Matchplay is done, you can play normally to meet any needed rollovers.Comment -
Have to add that it actually didnt push, but got postponed and so the bet was cancelled.Comment -
You always need to play something that pays off at long odds, not -110. Either good size ML's or just do the parlay method above to turn the freeplay into 75% cash, or maybe a long odds future,basically something that pays +400 or better.
I'm certain Ganchrow will agree with me.Comment -
yap...has been discussed to death on all forums prolly
Finding playable +500s or better is easy at NBA or NCAA, MLB sucks for freeplays.Comment -
Then do the parlay with teams near a pick, totals, CFL,WNBA,etc.
It makes no difference what it is, if you parlay a 3-teamer all 8 ways, but bases is not a good idea because of pitching changes and rainouts.Comment -
Yep I do.Originally posted by Doug
Assuming one ether has the money to hedge out his free play bet at another book or he can stomach the risk (if not, go for the 3-team parlay), long odds are the way to go. And the longer odds the better the expected return.
Assuming a theoretical hold of H, the expected return from betting a free play on a line of L ( L >= 100) is given by:So given a theoretical hold of 4.55% (a -110 line set) one's expectation from betting a +400 line is 76.36% of the free play. Given a hold of 2.38% (a -105 line set) the +400 line yields an expected return of 78.10% of the free play.Code:L*(1-H) E(return) = ----------- L+100
This implies that if you had a true "sure thing" (a bet you knew you'd win with 100% certainty) at a line of -110 (expectation of 100/110 ≈ 90.91% of the free play amount), risk aside you'd actually be better off instead betting your free play on a random +2100 line at a -110 style shop (expectation of 2100 * 95.45% / 2200 ≈ 91.12% of the free play amount).Comment -
Most people just put it on some straight pointspread bet which is a poor use. Some even play like a -200 fav, which is terrible.Comment -
we had a thread going about this at the end of bowl season...the way most books work with a free play is it's a one time bullet to be shot (at least that's the way it was explained to me)...meaning, once it's fired it's done...which is why I usually do Doug's 8 3 team parlays all with half points in the spreads (so there are no pushes)...but typically you won't get this freeplay back...Comment -
UK bookies will replace it usually.Comment
