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  • Illusion
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    • 08-09-05
    • 25166

    #1
    Stackhouse suspended one game for flagrant foul
    Did you guys here Avery Johnson's comments on this? Man oh man was he fuming.

    MIAMI -- Shaquille O'Neal mocked his collision with Jerry Stackhouse as being less vicious than a love tap from his daughters. The NBA declared it worthy of a one-game suspension.

    The Dallas Mavericks are calling it a joke.

    Following the league's announcement Friday that Stackhouse must miss Game 5 of the finals for his hard foul on O'Neal in the third quarter of Game 4, the team's top three officials all lambasted the punishment.

    "It makes no sense at all," owner Mark Cuban wrote in an e-mail. "There have been more 'accidental' elbows to Mavs players' heads this series than is statistically possible. (Wasn't it [Heat coach Pat] Riley who said that there is no such thing as an accidental elbow?) More stiff arms to faces of our double teams, all without response from the league."

    Stackhouse was called for a flagrant foul when it happened. But after reviewing the play and discussing the details with both players, league vice president Stu Jackson opted to upgrade the punishment.

    "The contact by Jerry Stackhouse was clearly excessive and warrants a suspension," Jackson said in a release.

    The series is tied 2-2, with the Heat having won the last two games. Game 5 is Sunday night in Miami.

    Before the league's decision, Dallas coach Avery Johnson said he didn't think the blow deserved a suspension, noting that O'Neal wasn't penalized for hitting Stackhouse hard enough in Game 1 that he opened a gash across the top of his nose that required three stitches to close.

    Once the announcement was made, Johnson called it "ridiculous" -- among other terms.

    "It's just a bunch of baloney," he said on his weekly radio show with Dallas' 103.3 ESPN. "For lack of a better word, it's sickening. Our fans should be upset, our players will be."

    Donnie Nelson, the team's president of basketball operations, called it "a low blow, especially at this critical time."

    "We're really surprised and appalled," he said. "The timing of it is the most unfortunate part. This is a bitter pill."

    Miami was leading 68-51 in the third quarter of Game 4 when Jason Williams stole the ball from Dallas' Josh Howard and drove to the other end of the court. A few steps beyond the foul line, Williams dished to O'Neal for a likely crowd-thrilling dunk but Stackhouse swooped in from the side, taking him down with a head-high shove.

    "It was a hard foul," Stackhouse said after the game. "When Shaq is going to the basket, we want to try to make him go to the free throw line and earn it."

    O'Neal did, making both foul shots. Given the ball back, the Heat got two more points to stretch their lead to 20 for the first time. They went on to win 98-74, leaving O'Neal in a playful mood, especially when asked about the foul by Stackhouse.

    "My daughters tackle me harder when I come home," O'Neal said. "I'm one of the last players of the old school, and you know, you just have to take a hard foul like that and keep on moving. It actually felt pretty good to get hit like that. Thank you, Jerry. Appreciate it."

    The Heat may really appreciate Stackhouse's absence from Game 5.

    Stackhouse is Dallas' top reserve. He's averaging 13.8 points this postseason and 13.0 in the finals. He had 16 in Game 2, including 10 straight over the final 79 seconds of the first half that propelled the Mavericks to a victory.

    This marks the third time this postseason a Dallas player has been suspended.

    Jason Terry was lost for Game 6 of the second round against San Antonio for punching Spurs guard Michael Finley below the belt and center D.J. Mbenga just completed a five-game suspension for running into the stands to aid Johnson's wife during the conference finals. Mbenga will return for Game 5.

    "And that's six more fouls," Johnson noted.

    An irate Johnson also told radio listeners O'Neal was being protected by the league, saying: "It's been around forever -- certain players get royal treatment, certain players don't."

    Cuban touched on the same topic.

    "Shaq creates more dangerous contact camping in the lane for 5 seconds trying to set an NBA finals record for charges taken by a center than Stack did trying to prevent a layup," Cuban wrote.

    Johnson opened his show with a Cuban-like rant against the way the league has handled cases like this, later saying there is "no rebuttal, no trial and jury, just a judge."

    "I've been holding my tongue all year about the foolishness, just the foolishness that goes on there," said Johnson, who was voted the NBA coach of the year in his first full season.

    "They're so inconsistent. I'm just embarrassed to have to deal with some of the things I have to deal with. ... We are in a position where we have no authority and we're always reminded of that -- we're just coaches." Asked whether he feared the Mavericks are being targeted because of how vocal Cuban is with barbs toward the league, Johnson said, "I would sure hope not."

    "If there is some truth to that, I hope certain people can't even look themselves in the mirror because that's a disgrace," he said.
  • onlooker
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-10-05
    • 36572

    #2
    With this result, he should of got ejected from the game when he did it. They didnt find it bad enough for that then, so why suspend the guy for a game?

    David Stern wants this to go seven, because we all know he made that phone call durning the 4th quarter of game 3.
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    • isetcap
      SBR MVP
      • 12-16-05
      • 4006

      #3
      This has been the NBA's way of handling these situations throughout the season and playoffs. This is no special case and is definitely warranted. I have no idea what Crackhouse was thinking.
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      • bigboydan
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-10-05
        • 55420

        #4
        boy, they sure are trying to get this series to go 7 games aren't they
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        • Illusion
          Restricted User
          • 08-09-05
          • 25166

          #5
          Originally posted by isetcap
          This has been the NBA's way of handling these situations throughout the season and playoffs. This is no special case and is definitely warranted. I have no idea what Crackhouse was thinking.
          I agree, but why didn't the refs eject him then?
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          • onlooker
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 08-10-05
            • 36572

            #6
            Originally posted by Illusion
            I agree, but why didn't the refs eject him then?
            I think they should of. I think it was a flagrant 2. But hey, Im just a fan, not a NBA expert.
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            • Seattle Slew
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-02-06
              • 7373

              #7
              This is total bullshit. David Stern should overrule Stu "Idiot" Jackson, who polices the NBA as bad as he coached in it.

              Suspending a guy in Game 5 of the NBA playoffs for this when he wasn't even ejected?

              NFL players are fined all the time after the fact for flagrant hits but nobody is ever suspended, and there's more danger in the NFL.
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              • Brick Tamland
                SBR MVP
                • 08-12-05
                • 1336

                #8
                stu BOS'd jerry
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                • isetcap
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-16-05
                  • 4006

                  #9
                  Crackshack should've known better. The precedent was set well in advance of his idiot moment.
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                  • hanco21
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-19-06
                    • 3414

                    #10
                    I wanted to see Shaquille shaq-fu Crackhouse. On the serious side I think Stackhouse suspension is justified. Come on who knocks Shaq on there Arse like that. Jerry never went for the ball and should of got ejected from game four also.
                    Last edited by hanco21; 06-17-06, 02:15 AM.
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                    • bigboydan
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 55420

                      #11
                      maybe the league is just hates mark cuban that much.

                      avery johnson is pissed off. his latest comments ripped the NBA for protecting there superstar type players. i think we all perty much know thats always been the case though.
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                      • goldengoat
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-25-05
                        • 3239

                        #12
                        i think it's a bullsh.it suspension

                        stack bumped him hard but did not smack him in the face or body hard with his arms

                        it was just body to body contact and shaq just was leaving the floor so thats why he flew

                        it was not even an undercut

                        if you try to foul shaq lightly he'll just power thru you

                        it was definitely a flagrant but no way a suspension foul
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                        • onlooker
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 36572

                          #13
                          If it was called a flagrant 2, and a ejection of game four = Suspension.

                          As called, flagrant 1, no ejection of game four = No Suspension.

                          The NBA needs to get their heads on straight here, all joking aside.
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                          • BuddyBear
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 7233

                            #14
                            The NBA is determined to get this to 7 games....
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                            • moses millsap
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-25-05
                              • 8289

                              #15
                              This is a blessing in disguise for the Mavs. They are going to stick it to Stern and the Heat tonight.
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