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  • PAULYPOKER
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    #36
    Originally posted by Walulu
    For anyone who wants to learn more on this topic read The Creature from Jekyll Island.

    Great thread Pauly...
    Thanks for sharing Walulu............
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      #37
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      • milwaukee mike
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        #38
        Originally posted by muldoon
        Obama said he'd end the Iraq war (semantics, but he did)
        Show me where he said he'd end Afghanistan?

        Not nit picking - it's these made up type quotes that pollute the dialogue in an otherwise smart moving thread.
        sorry but that was the very definition of nitpicking

        im on my phone but im pretty sure i have seen at least one clip where obama promised to bring ALL the troops home as his first act in office
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          #39
          Originally posted by milwaukee mike

          sorry but that was the very definition of nitpicking

          im on my phone but im pretty sure i have seen at least one clip where obama promised to bring ALL the troops home as his first act in office
          Broken promise No. 7: Bring troops home in 16 months
          On his campaign website, Obama promised he would “remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.”
          His commitment to bring combat troops home by May 20, 2010, and end the war gave him an edge among Democrats over candidate Hillary Clinton.
          However, on Feb. 27, Obama declared, “Let me say this as plainly as I can: By Aug. 31, 2010, our combat mission in Iraq will end.”
          If Obama adheres to his plan, combat troops will return home months later than originally promised. The New York Times reports, Obama will withdraw only two of the 14 brigades before December.
          As part of a “new era of American leadership,” he also said he would leave behind a residual force of 35,000 to 50,000 troops and remove all U.S. soldiers from Iraq by Dec. 31, 2011 – the same deadline the Bush administration negotiated with the Iraqi government last year in its Status of Forces Agreement.
          Additionally, some combat units would remain in Iraq beyond Obama’s declared August 2010 withdrawal. Rather than returning home, they would simply face reassignment as “advisory training brigades.”
          Even as combat troops are brought home, Pentagon officials have said fresh units will continue deploying to Iraq.
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            #40
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            • milwaukee mike
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              #41
              "we will bring an end to this war you can take that to the bank"

              hard to assume he only meant iraq with a statement like that, seems more like a statement of the end of the war on terror

              just like nixon/etc in vietnam, when they said they were ending "the war" they also meant cambodia, laos, etc
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                #42
                "We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
                - David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany
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                  #43
                  "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
                  - Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, Time Magazine, July 20th, l992
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                    #44
                    “Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.”
                    - Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940.
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                      #45
                      "It is the system of nationalist individualism that has to go....We are living in the end of the sovereign states....In the great struggle to evoke a Westernized World Socialism, contemporary governments may vanish....Countless people...will hate the new world order....and will die protesting against it."
                      - H.G. Wells, in his book, “The New World Order”, 1940
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                        "we will bring an end to this war you can take that to the bank"

                        hard to assume he only meant iraq with a statement like that, seems more like a statement of the end of the war on terror

                        just like nixon/etc in vietnam, when they said they were ending "the war" they also meant cambodia, laos, etc
                        No way you can interpret that the same way. Cambodio/Laos were neighbors who were caught up in the vietnam war (fleeing into border towns etc). Those were not thought of then, and are not thought of now, as seperate wars. Iraq & Afghanistan are very seperate wars.

                        NO WAY I believe Obama said he would "end the war on terror". Having a never ending war against a non descript enemy benefits anyone who is in power.

                        While on the campaign trail, Obama had said this failure centered on President Bush not having sent enough troops to Afghanistan. And at campaign rallies, he constantly pledged to stop the war in Iraq and turn to the other.
                        "We will bring this war to an end. We will focus our attention on Afghanistan," Obama said.
                        2008 Campaign LINK

                        I highlighted in red the quote you used - and added that pesky thing of finishing the quote so context remained.
                        Last edited by muldoon; 06-25-12, 10:33 AM.
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                          #47
                          “Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
                          - David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
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                            #48
                            "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
                            - Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
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                              #49
                              "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
                              - Bill Clinton, USA Today on 3/11/93, page 2a
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                                #50
                                “I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the Republic is destroyed. I feel at this moment more anxiety for the safety of my country than ever before, even in the midst of war.” –
                                Abraham Lincoln - In a letter written to William Elkin
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                                  #51
                                  There was a time where I would have been in the camp of people that accused PaulyPoker (who I do not agree with on some things) as a conspiracy nut etc. But you don't need select quotes - you merely have to do a bit of research to realize he's not out to lunch - not even close.
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                                    #52
                                    "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
                                    - U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House
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                                      #53
                                      “The money power preys on the nation in times of peace, and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces, as public enemies, all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes.”
                                      - Abraham Lincoln
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                                        #54
                                        “A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.... Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” –
                                        Woodrow Wilson - In The New Freedom (1913)
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                                          #55
                                          “The system of banking [is] a blot left in all our Constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction... I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity... is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”
                                          - Thomas Jefferson
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                                            #56
                                            “... To take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn around the powers of Congress is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition. The incorporation of a bank, and the powers assumed by this bill [chartering the first Bank of the United States], have not, been delegated to the United States by the Constitution.”
                                            - Thomas Jefferson - in opposition to the chartering of the first Bank of the United States (1791).
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                                              #57
                                              “We have stricken the (slave) shackles from four million human beings and brought all laborers to a common level not so much by the elevation of former slaves as by practically reducing the whole working population, white and black, to a condition of serfdom. While boasting of our noble deeds, we are careful to conceal the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery.”
                                              - Horace Greeley - (1811-1872) founder of the New York Tribune
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                                                #58
                                                “The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland; a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
                                                - Prof. Carroll Quigley in Tragedy and Hope
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                                                  #59
                                                  “In a small Swiss city sits an international organization so obscure and secretive....Control of the institution, the Bank for International Settlements, lies with some of the world's most powerful and least visible men: the heads of 32 central banks, officials able to shift billions of dollars and alter the course of economies at the stroke of a pen.”
                                                  - Keith Bradsher of the New York Times, August 5, 1995



                                                  In other words, these men can make the stock market crash at will................
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                                                    “The Federal Reserve Bank of New York is eager to enter into close relationship with the Bank for International Settlements....The conclusion is impossible to escape that the State and Treasury Departments are willing to pool the banking system of Europe and America, setting up a world financial power independent of and above the Government of the United States....The United States under present conditions will be transformed from the most active of manufacturing nations into a consuming and importing nation with a balance of trade against it.”
                                                    - Rep. Louis McFadden - Chairman of the House Committee on

                                                    Banking and Currency quoted in the New York Times (June 1930)
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                                                      #61
                                                      “[The] abandonment of the gold standard made it possible for the welfare statists to use the banking system as a means to an unlimited expansion of credit.... In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holdings illegal, as was done in the case of gold.... The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.... [This] is the shabby secret of the welfare statist's tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the 'hidden' confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights.”
                                                      - Alan Greenspan in an article he wrote in 1966.
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                                                        #62
                                                        "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within."
                                                        - General Douglas MacArthur
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                                                          “In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."
                                                          - U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
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                                                            #64
                                                            "The United Nations will spearhead our efforts to manage the new conflicts (that afflict our world)....Yes the principles of the United Nations Charter are worth our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
                                                            - General Colin Powell, 4/21/93, receiving the UN-USA Global Leadership Award
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                                                              #65
                                                              “The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses... This little coterie...runs our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen...seizes...our executive officers...legislative bodies...schools... courts...newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
                                                              - John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York, Mayor, 1918-1925
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                                                                #66
                                                                "The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power--Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical."
                                                                - U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater, his book "No Apologies", 1964
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  “From the days of Spartacus, Weishaupt, Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the under- world of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”
                                                                  - Winston Churchill to the London press in 1922.
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    “The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans."
                                                                    - British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      "Hey baby!! I got 2 great seats to the theater tonight!"

                                                                      -Abraham Lincoln
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                                                                        "For some time I have been disturbed by the way the CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy making arm of the government."
                                                                        - President Harry Truman
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