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  • drfunkmaster
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-29-08
    • 11162

    #281
    Originally posted by dj_destroyer
    I gotta add you to the list now too?

    Dude you too funny, you gonna add me to this so called list of yours cause i was simply giving you my opinion and advice. Stop acting like a child, grow-up and see that i was not insulting you. I guess you cant handle positive and negative Criticism. Yes add me to your list, if it makes you feel better. Take care.
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    • dj_destroyer
      SBR MVP
      • 07-28-10
      • 3856

      #282
      Originally posted by dshawn
      lol you aint gotta add nobody.. im on this too.. bclc....

      keep posting your plays
      No nice plays the last few days...

      Hoping for tomorrow. See ya in the a.m.
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      • mathdotcom
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-24-08
        • 11689

        #283
        dj at $30 bets, do you realize how much of an edge you have to have to make more than pennies? Even a 5% edge only makes you $1.50 in expected value. There is no doubt you can make +EV plays on pro-line, I have threads of my own about it, but unless it's just a fun hobby it is really a waste of time from a money making standpoint.
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        • dj_destroyer
          SBR MVP
          • 07-28-10
          • 3856

          #284
          Originally posted by mathdotcom
          dj at $30 bets, do you realize how much of an edge you have to have to make more than pennies? Even a 5% edge only makes you $1.50 in expected value. There is no doubt you can make +EV plays on pro-line, I have threads of my own about it, but unless it's just a fun hobby it is really a waste of time from a money making standpoint.
          Call it running hot or lucky then but I've been making about 15% every year... I bet upwards of 15k a year profiting roughly 3k

          I've also hit them for large amounts (including 10k, 2.7k and 2.2k) that I don't even include in the above numbers.

          Call it a hobby all you like. Not a hobby for me. In fact, it's probably my most consistent money maker.
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          • Jayvegas420
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-09-11
            • 28213

            #285
            DJ's copy & paste tool is apparently working again!
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #286
              Originally posted by dj_destroyer
              ROLL CALL:

              chingo
              biggie12
              jayvegas420
              billysink
              sapidoc
              slope99
              smoke
              agendaman
              the kraken
              hels
              drin$entive
              hydrosmak
              rudyruetigger

              These guys all found time to slam me when I'm down but they can't swing by when I'm caking up? It's because they're pathetic. Especially jayvegas420 who chirped me, challenged me, lost, and now can't hold up his end of the bet (staying out of my threads).

              I told you trying working at burger king instead. That's "hating"?

              Mathy just told you you get about 1.50 per set. Let's use your numbers, you are up what, 900 in 3 months? Yea I'd say burger king would've worked better and you are boasting about it.


              Hey pal, I'm not hating on you..I don't really give a fukk what you do and its about time you realize noone else cares either so stop trying.

              What the hell do I care if you become a billionaire or homeless?
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              • dj_destroyer
                SBR MVP
                • 07-28-10
                • 3856

                #287
                $1954

                OLG
                3/4 (4 tickets) $3 a ticket, $12 total
                38H Real Sociedad
                41H Dynamo
                43H Revolution
                1H Rangers

                BCLC
                2/6 (15 tickets) $5 a ticket except for the tickets including 37T which are $10, $100 total
                28T Cubs/Brewers
                29T Mets/Marlins
                31V Mariners
                35T Astros/Pirates
                37T Padres/Phillies
                45T Nats/Reds
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                • dj_destroyer
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-28-10
                  • 3856

                  #288
                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                  I told you trying working at burger king instead. That's "hating"?

                  Mathy just told you you get about 1.50 per set. Let's use your numbers, you are up what, 900 in 3 months? Yea I'd say burger king would've worked better and you are boasting about it.


                  Hey pal, I'm not hating on you..I don't really give a fukk what you do and its about time you realize noone else cares either so stop trying.

                  What the hell do I care if you become a billionaire or homeless?
                  Quit flapping your lips goober. I'm putting myself out there and winning. Where the fukk your winning threads at?

                  This is just one of many facets of mine to make money. If you think BK would be better, I'm sure you can find an application online but I'm cool with lazily making an extra $300 a month.

                  Good luck with the interview!
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65084

                    #289
                    All I see is a kid who got picked on as a kid or pushed aside and is now trying to get attention from somewhere else. Noone cares if you smoke weed on video or take cocaine to a rhianna concert pal.

                    Try working at burger king instead is hardly hating. It looks like the truth so far. Don't hold a grudge because I made you look like a fool in the expected value/expected growth thread.
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                    • dj_destroyer
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-28-10
                      • 3856

                      #290
                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                      All I see is a kid who got picked on as a kid or pushed aside and is now trying to get attention from somewhere else. Noone cares if you smoke weed on video or take cocaine to a rhianna concert pal.

                      Try working at burger king instead is hardly hating. It looks like the truth so far. Don't hold a grudge because I made you look like a fool in the expected value/expected growth thread.
                      Man, you're being such a fukking tool. People who make videos do so for fun and entertainment... It would be pretty boring if jj just talked about plays or if RyanLeaf wasn't drunk. It's not like I show off for the vids, this is how I live. I've been saying this since day one here, I don't try to be somebody I'm not.

                      I WILL be that guy at the SBR bash with the weed, coke, and strippers.

                      PS Make a video then fukking talk to me, I'd love to see how sorry of a sack you are rudy.

                      And what's with all this BK talk?? I serve at one of Ottawa's finest restaurants in the summers and I take the winters off. I supplement with sports whether it be this provincial lottery stuff or otherwise. How you making me look like a fool?

                      I think you're looking pretty dumb coming in and hating a winning thread considering how many there are on SBR...
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                      • Jayvegas420
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 03-09-11
                        • 28213

                        #291
                        Thanks.
                        $8.95 an hour & 50% off all orders.
                        5 days a week.
                        It would still be better than lying about being a professional lottery player.
                        If you don't change your gambling philosophy you might not find yourself working at BK but eating out of the garbage behind it.
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                        • mathdotcom
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-24-08
                          • 11689

                          #292
                          Waste of time, sign up at a jazette and get a $500 bonus in 2 minutes
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                          • dj_destroyer
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-28-10
                            • 3856

                            #293
                            Originally posted by mathdotcom
                            Waste of time, sign up at a jazette and get a $500 bonus in 2 minutes
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                            • dj_destroyer
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-28-10
                              • 3856

                              #294
                              I don't understand why all you cherry dikk fukks keep hating?

                              I'm making money, that's all that matters to me. It takes like 45 minutes of my day at the most.

                              At $300 a month, works out to about $10 a day. Now I haven't done this everyday, day in and day out, so it's actually more but whatever, I'll underestimate it.

                              That works out to $12.50/hour, which is higher than minimum wage almost anywhere.

                              Plus I enjoy doing it, the winnings are tax-free, and it makes all you fukkers mad.

                              Perfect.
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                              • mathdotcom
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-24-08
                                • 11689

                                #295
                                People are making fun of you because you're just an idiot on a lucky streak [assuming you're even documenting it right - do you think anyone has bothered to check? You don't even post what the payouts are.]

                                Plus a quick look at your picks today suggest they're not even close to break even.

                                Dynamo? -12.6% edge
                                Revolution? -14.5% edge

                                And when you parlay -EV it gets even worse
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                                • dj_destroyer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-28-10
                                  • 3856

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                  People are making fun of you because you're just an idiot on a lucky streak [assuming you're even documenting it right - do you think anyone has bothered to check? You don't even post what the payouts are.]

                                  Plus a quick look at your picks today suggest they're not even close to break even.

                                  Dynamo? -12.6% edge
                                  Revolution? -14.5% edge

                                  And when you parlay -EV it gets even worse
                                  You're dumb.

                                  A lucky streak does not last 4 years. I've been doing this since I can remember. And if you read the thread at all instead of just gazing from your almighty horse, you would know that jayvegas did try to call me out but there was nothing. I've also had several people come in here to defend my character and my meticulous record keeping. And the payouts can be easily found if you actually care but it's clear you don't. You just want to say your piece... Well I don't give a flying fukk mathdotcom.

                                  You're really dumb.

                                  Dynamo is only -2.3% and Revolution -5.6% -- which I agree is -EV but OLG has been bear lately so sometimes you have to cap to make up the extra couple of percent.

                                  I guess you should get used to being jealous of me winning though, especially when I'm getting laid at the SBR bash and you're sitting up in your hotel room crunching meaningless numbers with jj's thumb up your butt while you teach him how to apply Poisson distribution.
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                                  • Jayvegas420
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-09-11
                                    • 28213

                                    #297
                                    No, actually, it's been checked.
                                    I thought I was fairly thorough when I checked how he scored his plays & how he adds & subtracts.
                                    Can you believe this guy is seriously asking why he's disliked?
                                    Like we are the 1st humans he's encountered that didn't like being treated like idiots?!?!?
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                                    • dj_destroyer
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-28-10
                                      • 3856

                                      #298
                                      Jay, I honestly believe you're the biggest mush on SBR forums. Our contest all but proved that.

                                      Or the fact that you can't stick to your word? Why even make a challenge if you're not going to keep your end of the bargain?
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                                      • mathdotcom
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-24-08
                                        • 11689

                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                        You're dumb.

                                        Dynamo is only -2.3% and Revolution -5.6% -- which I agree is -EV but OLG has been bear lately so sometimes you have to cap to make up the extra couple of percent.
                                        These are measured against a sharp market like Pinnacle or Betfair. So if they're -2.3% and -5.6% it means you could have just bet those games online and gotten a better price than you would have through OLG. Regardless of what you think about Dynamo's chances of winning, you're not getting the best price.

                                        Yep I'm dumb
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                                        • dj_destroyer
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-28-10
                                          • 3856

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                          These are measured against a sharp market like Pinnacle or Betfair. So if they're -2.3% and -5.6% it means you could have just bet those games online and gotten a better price than you would have through OLG. Regardless of what you think about Dynamo's chances of winning, you're not getting the best price.

                                          Yep I'm dumb
                                          But I need other games to link up with the edges in order to complete the 3 game requirement. And those percentages are based off the true odds, so you can get Dynamo at Pinny for -115 or you can take it on Proline for -111
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                                          • Jayvegas420
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-09-11
                                            • 28213

                                            #301
                                            What bargain?
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                                            • dj_destroyer
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-28-10
                                              • 3856

                                              #302
                                              $2048

                                              OLG
                                              4/6 (15 tickets) $10 a ticket, $150 total
                                              12U 8.5 Royals/White Sox
                                              13H Twins
                                              62H Getafe
                                              67H Espanyol
                                              73H Lazio
                                              17V Rockies

                                              BCLC
                                              2/4 (6 tickets) $5 a ticket, $30 total
                                              66V Mariners
                                              70T Padres/Phillies
                                              76T Rockies/Dodgers
                                              79T Kings/Coyotes
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                                              • mathdotcom
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-24-08
                                                • 11689

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                                $2048

                                                BCLC
                                                2/4 (6 tickets) $5 a ticket, $30 total
                                                66V Mariners
                                                70T Padres/Phillies
                                                76T Rockies/Dodgers
                                                79T Kings/Coyotes
                                                Has EV of +8-10%

                                                Good work

                                                $30 --> $33

                                                Big timer . com !!

                                                Come on, if you're going to do it, do it.
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                                                • Jayvegas420
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-09-11
                                                  • 28213

                                                  #304
                                                  Math.com has just become my favourite poster!
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                                                  • dj_destroyer
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-28-10
                                                    • 3856

                                                    #305
                                                    Dude, I already took the OLG for 10k off of $50, DOCUMENTED, along with 2.2k and 2.7k.

                                                    Get the fukk off my back and out of my thread. You of all people should know that it's not what you've done in the past, it's what you're going to do in the future.

                                                    Let's see you do it again... The OLG is becoming a lot harder to beat. I had to wake up mad early to get my tickets in.
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                                                    • Jayvegas420
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-09-11
                                                      • 28213

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                                      Dude, I already took the OLG for 10k off of $50, DOCUMENTED, along with 2.2k and 2.7k.

                                                      Get the fukk off my back and out of my thread. You of all people should know that it's not what you've done in the past, it's what you're going to do in the future.

                                                      Let's see you do it again... The OLG is becoming a lot harder to beat. I had to wake up mad early to get my tickets in.
                                                      ....Says the guy who posted this:


                                                      Originally Posted by dj_destroyer
                                                      ROLL CALL:

                                                      chingo
                                                      biggie12
                                                      jayvegas420
                                                      billysink
                                                      sapidoc
                                                      slope99
                                                      smoke
                                                      agendaman
                                                      the kraken
                                                      hels
                                                      drin$entive
                                                      hydrosmak
                                                      rudyruetigger

                                                      These guys all found time to slam me when I'm down but they can't swing by when I'm caking up? It's because they're pathetic. Especially jayvegas420 who chirped me, challenged me, lost, and now can't hold up his end of the bet (staying out of my threads).



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                                                      • dj_destroyer
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-28-10
                                                        • 3856

                                                        #307
                                                        I didn't post the roll call for you haters to come back and keep hating!?!?!?!?!?!
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                                                        • Jayvegas420
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-09-11
                                                          • 28213

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                          Math.com has just become my favourite poster!
                                                          That doesnt sound like a hateful post at all.
                                                          You read weird.

                                                          Youre actually the one hating when you imply that you want his tickets to lose.

                                                          "Let's see you do it again..."

                                                          This is about as positive as you get, I guess?
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                                                          • dj_destroyer
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-28-10
                                                            • 3856

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                            That doesnt sound like a hateful post at all.
                                                            You read weird.

                                                            Youre actually the one hating when you imply that you want his tickets to lose.

                                                            "Let's see you do it again..."
                                                            I'm not implying that I want him to lose you knucklehead... I'm just stating that it is harder than it was in the past to win (even only a couple years). There are many reasons for this but you don't care to learn, you just want to say your piece.

                                                            At least when mathy criticizes me, he does so with valid arguments. You just actually thought it was impossible to turn a profit. Math knows it is a profitable venture, his argument is just that it is not worth the time/effort for 10-15% whereas I think it is.

                                                            I agree it is becoming harder and more time consuming than it was, but you learn to adapt.
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                                                            • Jayvegas420
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 03-09-11
                                                              • 28213

                                                              #310
                                                              IF he posted winning tickets from today I feel like youd still be fairly unimpressed with him.
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                                                              • dj_destroyer
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-28-10
                                                                • 3856

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                                                IF he posted winning tickets from today I feel like youd still be fairly unimpressed with him.
                                                                That's a loaded question. However impressed with him, I'd have to be equally impressed with myself. Beating Proline is a grind but it's not rocket science. In fact, with certain tools and a bit of knowledge, it's rather easy.
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                                                                • mathdotcom
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-24-08
                                                                  • 11689

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Look, have fun and do whatever you want. I am convinced you will make money in the long run. But the nature of parlays is eventually you will get a huge payout that alters your BR (at least the BR allocated to this endeavor) significantly and you get the impression each bet you make is earning you 'real money'.

                                                                  All I'm trying to tell you is that you should sleep in because your bets are not making you as much as you think. That is unless the value you place on sleeping in is less than $3. It's about $300 for me.

                                                                  So since you are making money in the LR, why not make it worth your while and bet more.
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                                                                  • mathdotcom
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-24-08
                                                                    • 11689

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Also since you seem to be a young and enterprising fellow, I suggest you look around online for much easier opportunities that will net you more cash with less risk and still let you sleep in.

                                                                    I stopped Pro-Line long ago because of hitting the liability limit which just wasn't worth the hassle given I could barely get a dime down. And then when they do cash it takes more time going around and around looking for convenience stores that have enough cash you pay you out $900.
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                                                                    • dj_destroyer
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-28-10
                                                                      • 3856

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by mathdotcom
                                                                      Also since you seem to be a young and enterprising fellow, I suggest you look around online for much easier opportunities that will net you more cash with less risk and still let you sleep in.

                                                                      I stopped Pro-Line long ago because of hitting the liability limit which just wasn't worth the hassle given I could barely get a dime down. And then when they do cash it takes more time going around and around looking for convenience stores that have enough cash you pay you out $900.
                                                                      Did I mention I cashed out my 10k at one store? None of the tickets were over 1k and I know an old school guy who had 4k on him when I talked to him and the rest of it the next week.

                                                                      PM me for the name if you ever have a lot to cash. (Ottawa)
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                                                                      • mathdotcom
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 03-24-08
                                                                        • 11689

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by dj_destroyer
                                                                        Did I mention I cashed out my 10k at one store? None of the tickets were over 1k and I know an old school guy who had 4k on him when I talked to him and the rest of it the next week.

                                                                        PM me for the name if you ever have a lot to cash. (Ottawa)
                                                                        I had a deal with a shopowner who gave me a kickback but it was such a grind I stopped almost 2 years ago
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