Your betting accounts and how to protect them from scammers.

[SBR_John]

Recently a forum operator, peepsplace.com, offered a well known scammer $25 for every betting account that the scammer could tell him his balance. The scammer was able to tell him the correct balance in 8 out of 10. Scary.

It's remotely possible that the scammer could access your accounts and transfer money to one of his accounts. We saw this a couple of months ago at FirstFidelity so it is a real risk.

Here are some steps I would recommend:
1) Keep your balances low
2) Change your password every 60 days
3) Inform the sportsbook to note your account that you only desire withdraws via Neteller and you request ID's sent to the book for any other type of withdraw. Absolutely no account to account transfers.

I will say theft of this nature is rare. I will also note that SBR is far from an expert on this subject. We have had very few complaints. However, there is no denying that there is at least one scammer and probably more that have YOUR info. Knowing this, take prudent steps to protect your accounts.

[bigboydan]

if it's true, this is truely a scarry thought for players.

[DamianDunlap]

Its true. He has been had players info. It was spoken about months ago. I really dont feel safe. I dont fear AK, but others that have the same info. My neteller been hit two times so far.

[JoshW]

I feel like I am fairly proactive about security, but even I would have trouble taking all of those three steps on a regular basis. I think 1 is the best.

1. Especially if you aren't playing a lot at a book, don't keep a balance you don't need. These aren't banks.

2. I have so much trouble remember my passwords now. If you change every 60 days likely to forget. I think is good idea, but take some work to do especially with multiple accounts.

3. Lot of books will not implement complicated restrictions and those that do likely would remove them just as easy if you already had your user/pw.

I think are all good ideas, maybe the key is no easy solutions and as this and the past Sporting/EFS cases show, this shit happens.

[The Great One]

i had no idea this type of thing occurred in this business. My guess is that guy a couple days ago who kept registering 10 names in 2 hours has been doing that.

How does one do that anyway? I guess there are some professional e-mail hackers out there so logically this would be the bext step since this is really a bank account.

[SBR_John]

Great One,
When the dust settles I will try to give you an accurate account of how the scammers get the information. I have an idea but I'm mising some pieces to this jigsaw puzzle.

[Illusion]

I will be changing my passwords more often now that's for sure.

[LGBoots]

Having read the original posting at peepsplace.com I have to agree this is damn scary stuff

The fact there are A rated books on that list is even more frightening

Surely Sportsbooks are not being that 'Gung-Ho' with our confidential details

Even the idea of changing your password fairly often would seem not to offer much protection as AK says on the posting at 'peepsplace' that updated details are 'avaliable' on a frequent basis.

Now I do all I can to keep my details secure...

1, I don't store SB Passwords on my Computer

2, I use 'RoboForm' ( A program that encrypts your SB passwords )to login into Sportsbooks. So no chance of me being caught by 'Keystroke Loggers'

I expect in return for Sportsbooks to treat my data in the same secure way.

This does not appear to be the case. If all of these 'leaks' turn out to be true then the guilty Sportsbooks should be ashamed of themselves

[BK]

Nowadays nothing surprises me when it comes to people getting your info.

I worked at another sportsbook a few years back and we had a small group of customers who had wagers on their accounts that they didn't make. Upon further investigation, it turned out that they were all AOL users. And not only had their betting accounts been messed with, but also other info. The person didn't do much, just messed around. Probably some hacker kid playing around.

AOL had a vulnerability that somebody figured out and used it to play around. I don't remember the exact details of how he had done it, but he did.

Nowadays you have to take every step possible to keep your accounts secured, not just sportsbook.

[BigDog]

There's always going to be some dipshit that will screw it for everyone else.....Just a fact of life

[BK]

There's always going to be some dipshit that will screw it for everyone else.....Just a fact of life

For sure. Sh*t happens. We can never be 100% sure of anything. As much as we try to do our part to keep everything secure, somebody will always come along and be an a$$hole and ruin everything.

[pags11]

excellent info. in this thread for sure...this is kind of a sensitive subject for me...as players, we definitely need to take necessary steps with our accounts (I change my passwords frequently and also have restricted any casino access on all my accounts as well)...I think books need to take measures to make sure their servers are secure, software is upgraded etc. to protect their players...

[TLD]

I couldn’t make heads or tails of that thread at Peeps. I have no clue who’s lying, who’s guessing, who’s joking, etc.

AK has databases, then he doesn’t, then he has just one or two, then he not only has all of them but he also gets them updated every month so it doesn’t matter if you change your passwords, then he doesn’t have any again.

Peep’s information was lifted by some keystroke accessing virus, then some other hacking method was used to access the file in his computer that lists his passwords, then it was just lucky guesses that got his passwords (including the ones he changed and at least one computer-generated one), then they were obtained from stolen databases that AK has, doesn’t have, and sort of has.

Roberto knows how AK got the information but he can’t say publicly without aiding other scammers, but he’s willing to tell Peep privately even if he knows Peep will then post it. Peep wants Roberto himself to post it. They stare each other down for awhile until Peep finally relents and calls him. Then instead of relaying what Roberto told him as promised, he just says something vague about “Well, I didn’t learn much” and falls silent. Roberto himself eventually posts something after all about how AK supposedly got the information, which may or may not be what he told Peep. In any case, it makes little sense and doesn’t fully fit with the evidence posted so far. When he’s challenged on this he has no plausible response.

Other than The Greek helping Peep understand how AK fast talked some of Peep’s account information out of them, other sportsbooks are unanimously silent despite the lengthy thread and repeated contacts from numerous people trying to get them to address potentially very serious security breach allegations.

Numerous allegations are made about who is in bed with whom, and thus has a motive to lie, cover up, etc.

What a mess. If there’s ever been any doubt what a bunch of bottom feeders this industry and these forums attract, there shouldn’t be now.

Well, I’m not going to worry about it too much, because if all this information really was floating around out there, then surely we’d have heard a lot more horror stories about mysterious transfers out of people’s accounts and such. But you better believe I’m going to be screaming bloody murder when money is missing from one of my accounts and they try to give me some baloney about how it’s my responsibility to protect my password and I must have let it out, etc.