PlayWePay (not rated) to bailout BCS customers with 7x roll-over?

**gmoney** · 09-13-05, 08:46 AM

oh...and if they do decide to do what is right and pay me outright without any strings attached I will let you know as well. I am sure in that case they would be taking the first step toward reliability.

**gmoney** · 09-13-05, 01:12 PM

They refuse to make any payout without the 7X rollover. Is anyone else owed money by BCS or am I the only sucker?

**marc** · 09-13-05, 01:16 PM

You are not alone. I'll ask TOW if any of their players ahve any interest in bailout.

**Heysosamakeamove** · 09-13-05, 05:45 PM

hey this is a new book or new scam.

**SBR_John** · 09-13-05, 05:59 PM

May also want to wait and see what other info SBR can dig up and if anyone in the business will vouch or knows these guys because I sure don't. If we can get a location we can swing by for a visit.

I have no knowledge of this but my sniffer says this could be trouble.

**Bill Dozer** · 09-14-05, 05:12 AM

PaywePlay's domain name is owned by the owner of BLR software. BLR software is providing the software and phones for PlaywePay. The building is across from the airport in CR.

PWP is claiming to be unrelated to BCS (which is also the old BML stiffs). That is hard to believe considering they have admin acess to BCS's site. With BCS all but gone, putting account balances in action at PWP may be the only way to find out if this is a viable option. We plan to speak to BLR today.

**gmoney** · 09-14-05, 05:28 AM

Great! Once again thanks for your help Bill. Let me know how it goes with BLR.

**11 to 10** · 09-14-05, 03:31 PM

I feel as though I need to come in here and talk about the good experience that I just had while on the phone with Shemus of www.PlayWePay.com. Took a little time but it was worth the listen. Apparently the people of BCS were looking to just up and leave, the thought never appeared to cross their mind about paying the customers that they owed much less the help, the unpaid phone bills, the past due rent. Anyways to make a long story short I have to say to be given the opportunity to be paid even after a 7x Rollover is a pretty good thing. I had the misfortune of this 2 other times in previous history. Once with Aces Gold I got NOTHING just FUKD. And then once again from the infamous Mark Del and was give the opportunity to ONLY save 2k after a 10x ROLL.
Don't want to really go any further into depth but I did want to come in and ask the rest of the people that read here and have an account with BCS to give it some thought like I did and give PWP a shot at trying to do the right even though it is not their responsibility by supporting them in their quest of trying to not let another bad incident mark the gaming industry with yet another black eye.

**Illusion** · 09-14-05, 03:50 PM

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and welcome to SBR 11 to 10.

**Bill Dozer** · 09-28-05, 06:57 PM

Gmoney,

We have confirmed that the first BCS player was paid $5,000 this week. PWP maintains that they will be giving you your funds when the roll is completed. Please keep us posted.

**marc** · 09-28-05, 08:35 PM

That is great news. I think most of us how a lot of doubt about PWP.

**11 to 10** · 09-28-05, 09:03 PM

Just got finished reading the post regarding PWP and the payout of their 1st rollover customer that was "Inherited" so to speak from the people of BCS and that he has received 5k. WOW I am anxious to see how many posters are still concerned about whether or not PWP is a scam. From where I sit it looks as if they should receive some praise. To the best of my recollection, they are the Hero's of this mess that was created by BCS. I sure hope that I can continue with my quest of rolling over my money. These guys really seem like they have their act together, I see different numbers and I pretty well stay logged in all the time. Software is nice and real user friendly as well. They get my VOTE for sure!

**gmoney** · 09-29-05, 09:16 AM

I will be finished my rollover requirement with them at some point today. I will let you all know how my payout goes. To this point the people at PWP have been cordial, polite and accomodating.

**Captain K** · 09-29-05, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by 11 to 10

From where I sit it looks as if they should receive some praise.

And where, pray tell, is it exactly that you sit? Most shills attempt to mask their activities a tad better ... your posts are nothing less than comical. Why on earth would you come in here, pretending to be a PWP player, spouting off about the "heroics" and integrity of PWP, when it would have been much easier to post "honestly" as the representative of PWP that you so obviously are?

**11 to 10** · 09-29-05, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by Captain K

And where, pray tell, is it exactly that you sit? Most shills attempt to mask their activities a tad better ... your posts are nothing less than comical. Why on earth would you come in here, pretending to be a PWP player, spouting off about the "heroics" and integrity of PWP, when it would have been much easier to post "honestly" as the representative of PWP that you so obviously are?

Captain K,
I am a player sir not a shill. Was a customer of BCS for almost a year. But hey oh well it does not matter to me what you think or say for that matter. My mother raised me only to say something if it was nice; obviously you were raised differently.

Cheers and good luck,
11 to 10

**Captain K** · 09-29-05, 05:57 PM

LOL

Yeah, no sense letting something like the truth get in the way of a "heroic" epic like this one. Good luck in your quest.

Cheers,
Captain K

**Bill Dozer** · 09-29-05, 07:29 PM

It's clear that PlayWePay is new at this but I’m willing to say I don't believe these two companies are the same. BCS was a book that was only willing to pay out a couple hundred at a time over the past year and a half. Even those tiny payments were very rare.

Like the Dimebetting players who were paid by 777Rock, these bettors just want to finally have their money in hand. 777Rock would probably now say that there are better ways to go about making these generous offers. One way is to be completely set up and to get established prior to offering help to others. When you buy your time under the spotlight you want to be ready to perform.

The concern players have is that the book will realize that no one wants to say thank you by staying and playing out their balance and that the book won't want to write all these checks at once. This is a valid concern since the bailing out books are always surprised when everyone leaves once they get their money. Since PWP is an unknown shop they have to realize that players are going to be leery until after the money is dispersed. Any benefit will come down the road... if they are indeed in it for the long haul.

**gmoney** · 10-02-05, 04:07 PM

PWP paid me out yesterday. A little more than 3 dimes. While I am absolutely ecsatic because it is money I never expected to see again I could not agree with Bill more. He is the guru of online sport gaming. I have no intentions of playing with them any time soon. If they are in it for the long haul and can build themselves a reputation worthy of an SBR rating of B+ or higher at that point I absolutely would play there again. BCS taught me a valuble lesson. Play with who you can trust and don't get suckered in by bonuses alone. I know that's pretty obvious but beginners like I was fall for that stuff. The scam books prey off players like I was. PWP did what to this point seems like an honorable thing. Time will tell.

**Illusion** · 10-03-05, 01:33 PM

I'm glad everything worked out for you gmoney.

**Mudcat** · 10-03-05, 01:39 PM

Glad to hear it gmoney. Those are some good, sensible thoughts. Thanks for posting.

Good work PWP.