What percent of online casino games are rigged?

**gizmo2431** · 04-08-08, 12:03 AM

I would never trust ONLINE casino games. At the local casino by me they put in an electronic roulette where there isn't an actual ball even, it's just like a monitor that shows it. I wouldn't trust that.

**bettilimbroke999** · 04-08-08, 12:14 AM

I would say 100%, at a racetrack by me called Southland in West Memphis they have add "cardless" blackjack and I am 100% sure it is a complete scam, they also have like video "dealers" that deal other games (3 card poker let it ride and some others) which are more questionable than blackdog

**NEP Dynasty** · 04-08-08, 12:15 AM

Probably 100%

**purecarnagge** · 04-08-08, 12:16 AM

in a real casino i'd take cards over electronics but thats just me. There is always human error...and lets remember they work for the casino...not you...

**Justin7** · 04-08-08, 12:44 AM

Why bother rigging a game? They have a monster edge, and they'll beat the crap out of players given enough time.

A book will make a lot more money by establishing a reputation as honest, than ripping off a few people that try them. There are some scamsters out there, but those are running a poor business model.

**bettilimbroke999** · 04-08-08, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Why bother rigging a game? They have a monster edge, and they'll beat the crap out of players given enough time.

A book will make a lot more money by establishing a reputation as honest, than ripping off a few people that try them. There are some scamsters out there, but those are running a poor business model.

Possibly so in the fact that the game is in effect already "rigged" in the house's favor substantially perhaps further rigging would be excessive, but I wouldn't put it past most online books to do it anyway as there is no regulation so it would just be more money in their pocket with zero chance of being caught. I always trust Vegas b/c of the strict regulations but online anything goes. I think we've all heard about "real" casinos that used rigged roulette wheels etc. it's naive to think that with no reg. online and no way of detecting it that they wouldn't ever be rigged

**BrentCrude** · 04-08-08, 10:05 AM

In promotions where they give you a few bucks online but have steep rollover conditions,here is what I found to be a major trend.Let's say they give you $50 and the rollover terms are 30X in blackjack minimum $200 withdrawal.You have to try to hit a homerun by betting the $50 where I seemed to have won,taking the $100 and betting that where I usually won.So you are on $200 and if you double the $200 you can probably play $2 blackjack the rest of the way to qualify for a withdrawal.

So you figure that you better play a few $1 hands and when you get 3 losing hands in a row you will take the $200 and bet the whole thing.You lose everytime!!!!!They have some rigged program where they combat against you qualifying for a payout playing with this promotion strategy.I know it's true because it's happened to me time and time again.They say they use random number generators but that's a crock.Worm from Rounders is pulling some lever at these online casinos.hehe!

**rake922** · 04-08-08, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by BrentCrude

In promotions where they give you a few bucks online but have steep rollover conditions,here is what I found to be a major trend.Let's say they give you $50 and the rollover terms are 30X in blackjack minimum $200 withdrawal.You have to try to hit a homerun by betting the $50 where I seemed to have won,taking the $100 and betting that where I usually won.So you are on $200 and if you double the $200 you can probably play $2 blackjack the rest of the way to qualify for a withdrawal.

So you figure that you better play a few $1 hands and when you get 3 losing hands in a row you will take the $200 and bet the whole thing.You lose everytime!!!!!They have some rigged program where they combat against you qualifying for a payout playing with this promotion strategy.I know it's true because it's happened to me time and time again.They say they use random number generators but that's a crock.Worm from Rounders is pulling some lever at these online casinos.hehe!

Yes I agree.... You should see the probaility of betting red and black on the same spin of Roulette and it landing on double 00(green)

**wb3bax** · 04-08-08, 10:10 AM

most or all of them!

**Iwinyourmoney** · 04-08-08, 10:11 AM

Dunno guys. About 2 years ago I found a online blackjack system (I guess you could say I knew what would happen next). In about 2 days I made $8,000. They figured out I figured something, and the system was no more. Ended up +6000 after I figured out they figured me out.

**Poker_Beast** · 04-09-08, 10:04 PM

Somewhere around 100%

**claggart** · 04-09-08, 11:33 PM

100%

I love when people say, "But they [the online casinos] already have an enormous edge. Why would they rig the games?"

Uh, they would rig the games so that they have an even bigger edge, i.e., so that they would make more money more quickly.

Every time someone says, "I had 10 bad hands in a row, blah blah blah," someone else can (and will) say, "That doesn't prove the house cheated. From a statistician's standpoint, the events you experienced, though unlikely, were probably the result of a fair game. Consider the number of people playing, your recency bias, etc."

Such a response cannot really be argued with. And that's the main problem--how can one actually verify that a game is rigged? I've played bj time and again, for instance, where I've had some hard-core stats buffs calculate the odds of what occurred to me, and time and again, it seems that the odds are 3 in 1000, 1 in 157, things like that. So what does this "prove"?

Well, as my friends are quick to point out, it proves nothing. Who in his right mind is going to log 10,000+ trials to get to the bottom of this? Not your average player. And even if he somehow did it, the house might come up w/ some "software error" bs or some other such malarky.

The gambler's fallacy and other such subjectivities aside, I have found it interesting that those ridiculous streaks of improbability have almost never been to my benefit online. In other words, all those 3 in 1000 streaks have always been losing streaks.

I have heard of very few such winning streaks. Bottom line--online casinos have no incentive not to cheat, given the difficulty of detecting rigging. Even a slight alteration of shoe/deck composition or random number generator application can give the house a HUGE advantage. Online casinos do cheat (just look at all the blacklisted ones on wizardofodds and other sites). If you doubt this, continually place large bets at online casino games and see how you fare.

**martinheino20** · 03-23-11, 03:26 PM

I've tried playing already on an online casino and I think it's better than going to the casino shop where their are lots of people hanging around and might destruct your concentration. Unlike at home with your PC you can just relax while playing, no one will going to bother you..right? But one thing to remember trust only to those casino sites which you think is good. Those casino names which is known to public.

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**bettilimbroke999** · 03-23-11, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by martinheino20

I've tried playing already on an online casino and I think it's better than going to the casino shop where their are lots of people hanging around and might destruct your concentration. Unlike at home with your PC you can just relax while playing, no one will going to bother you..right? But one thing to remember trust only to those casino sites which you think is good. Those casino names which is known to public.

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“All the evidence shows that God was actually quite a gambler, and the universe is a great casino, where dice are thrown, and roulette wheels spin on every occasion”

-Stephen Hawking

Odds martin will be homeless in the near future....-5000

Casino gambling is already fuckin terrible outside of maybe counting cards, online casino gambling is like well just enjoy the homelessness

**homerbush** · 03-23-11, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Why bother rigging a game? They have a monster edge, and they'll beat the crap out of players given enough time.

A book will make a lot more money by establishing a reputation as honest, than ripping off a few people that try them. There are some scamsters out there, but those are running a poor business model.

Because of greed. You ever see these stories of guys making millions or more but it is not enough. It is no different in this industry. Some people cheat. Sometimes on the player side and sometimes on the casino side.

**jmiezie** · 03-23-11, 05:00 PM

I feel most are rigged to take ur roll.. They let u win a little at the start then they take ur roll lol.. I do however like the new live feed dealers some books offer. Managed to clean up playing single zero roulette.. Brought 50 to the table and cashed out 1200. I feel it's pretty legit as I have won a few other times at it also. Anything without a live dealer I will not touch.

**bettilimbroke999** · 03-23-11, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by homerbush

Because of greed. You ever see these stories of guys making millions or more but it is not enough. It is no different in this industry. Some people cheat. Sometimes on the player side and sometimes on the casino side.

Exactly, why did UB and AP owners rob their players for millions at online poker, well bc they like money thats why

Why did Tiger Woods cheat on his fuckin gorgeous model wife, bc he likes pussy that's why

**martinheino20** · 03-24-11, 01:36 PM

oh don't say that my friend broke, I don't want to be homeless and besides it's not easy to have no home.

**muldoon** · 03-24-11, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by claggart

I have heard of very few such winning streaks. .

I won 17 hands in a row the other night here (SBR casino) including 4 hands dealt BJ in a row, followed by a double down to 21, followed by a BJ.

People dwell on the bad beats and quickly forget their own streaks

**ebbearsfb1** · 03-24-11, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Iwinyourmoney

Dunno guys. About 2 years ago I found a online blackjack system (I guess you could say I knew what would happen next). In about 2 days I made $8,000. They figured out I figured something, and the system was no more. Ended up +6000 after I figured out they figured me out.

would love to hear what you did

**MarlinsFan2212** · 03-27-11, 12:02 AM

Cant speak for any other books, but on Bodog its 100%.

**Mikail** · 03-27-11, 12:02 AM

It would shock me if one wasn't. So I say 100%

**captrobey** · 03-27-11, 12:20 AM

I do not trust any of them

**Doug** · 03-27-11, 12:26 AM

vegas games have been rigged !

**dlew2k** · 03-27-11, 12:31 AM

sia casino... 200000% unbelievable stuff.

**InTheDrink** · 03-27-11, 12:39 AM

Its pretty amazing to me that people put serious dough on online casino games. That takes serious addiction and degeneracy since everyone knows it's tilted against you even if it's just a little which its not

**BigDofBA** · 03-27-11, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by MarlinsFan2212

Cant speak for any other books, but on Bodog its 100%.

Agree. I never trusted online casinos and after trying out a few I will never play at any again

Its pretty ridiculous the hands that are dealt.

All of the are the same. You win a little early and then go on a massive losing streak.

**pozzy** · 03-27-11, 01:41 AM

I would say 100% and Im being serious.. They are all rigged..

**Smoke** · 03-27-11, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by InTheDrink

Its pretty amazing to me that people put serious dough on online casino games. That takes serious addiction and degeneracy since everyone knows it's tilted against you even if it's just a little which its not

Online casinos = A degenerates heaven

**warriorfan707** · 03-27-11, 02:24 AM

Online casinos should either be banned or kept away from.

**LucyTheApe** · 03-27-11, 02:26 AM

I alway gets free bonus from online betting, but I always end up losing

**vill** · 03-27-11, 02:29 AM

I think 100%. Don't play games (for example casino) where the ball is spin automatic. Or black jack against bot.

**aceking** · 03-27-11, 03:33 AM

because they know what you bet on , and the software will give you the opposite result.

pretty easy to write this kind of code :

if (player bets red) =result(black)
if (player bets even)=result(odd)
if (player bets low )=result(high)

**SportsMozart** · 03-27-11, 03:55 AM

All of them are rigged- all of them! Player has no chance what so ever in a long run.

The main reason is the way software code is written. It checks your bet first and based on that makes his own. So there is no randomness factor involved really. It is all smoke and mirrors!