Is Michigan St. The Most Disappointing Team of All Time?

**raggman** · 02-06-11, 02:56 PM

michigan state must have issues--they look like they have quit

**agharah1** · 02-06-11, 02:59 PM

Michigan State lost 2 guards, including their best 3pt shooter and perimeter defender in Chris Allen, to transfer. Two of their wing prospects redshirted. Keith Appling and Adriean Payne haven't produced at the level that was expected of 5-star recruits and McDonalds All Americans. Kalin Lucas is still recovering from the achillies tear he suffered last year.

Illinois, on the other hand, has none of these things, and they still lost to UIC, Indiana, Penn State, and NW. What's their excuse?

MSU could be the biggest disappointment of the year, but Baylor, Illinois, Kansas State, the entire Pac-10 and SEC West are right up there too.

**rm18** · 02-06-11, 03:04 PM

Baylor should of been better but they lost their two interior defenders Lomers and Udoh, their coach is an idiot for playing zone again this year without those guys.

Illinois is a disappointment sure but they missed the tourney while Michigan St. was a final four team and seemingly had a better roster.

**Brock Landers** · 02-06-11, 03:04 PM

No tournament for the great Izzo

**Milanboy** · 02-06-11, 03:06 PM

They have been such a letdown this season. I'm from Michigan and everyone is pretty much stunned at how bad they are.

**No coincidences** · 02-06-11, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by agharah1

Michigan State lost 2 guards, including their best 3pt shooter and perimeter defender in Chris Allen, to transfer. Two of their wing prospects redshirted. Keith Appling and Adriean Payne haven't produced at the level that was expected of 5-star recruits and McDonalds All Americans. Kalin Lucas is still recovering from the achillies tear he suffered last year.

Illinois, on the other hand, has none of these things, and they still lost to UIC, Indiana, Penn State, and NW. What's their excuse?

MSU could be the biggest disappointment of the year, but Baylor, Illinois, Kansas State, the entire Pac-10 and SEC West are right up there too.

Good post.

**No coincidences** · 02-06-11, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

No tournament for the great Izzo

You are a typical loser/hater from Illinois, Brock.

I can tell you've been waiting patiently for the last 14 years to say this.

**jagaf22** · 02-06-11, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

No tournament for the great Izzo

No tournament for the great Weber for the second straight year.

**mighty maron** · 02-06-11, 03:09 PM

Texas had the #1 team in the nation last year and then fell off the face off the earth

**Brock Landers** · 02-06-11, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

You are a typical loser/hater from Illinois, Brock. I can tell you've been waiting patiently for the last 14 years to say this.

no, just been listening to every asshole say how, its ok, he'll just win in the tournament. Well he won't be going this year, was a damn miracle they got out of the 2nd round last year

**d2bets** · 02-06-11, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by agharah1

Michigan State lost 2 guards, including their best 3pt shooter and perimeter defender in Chris Allen, to transfer. Two of their wing prospects redshirted. Keith Appling and Adriean Payne haven't produced at the level that was expected of 5-star recruits and McDonalds All Americans. Kalin Lucas is still recovering from the achillies tear he suffered last year.

Illinois, on the other hand, has none of these things, and they still lost to UIC, Indiana, Penn State, and NW. What's their excuse?

MSU could be the biggest disappointment of the year, but Baylor, Illinois, Kansas State, the entire Pac-10 and SEC West are right up there too.

They lost Chris Allen way before the season, before they were ranked #2, same for redshirts. That's a non-issue. They were ranked #2 a few games INTO the season, not preseason. They haven't produced, yeah that's right, exactly. I can't ever recall a team ranked #2 during the season then fail to make the tourney. Maybe it's happened, but I can't recall it.

Illinois wasn't ranked #2 so there's no comparison. They were ranked around #20 and were #25 coming into this week. Disappointing season so far for the Illini, but not even in the stratosphere of disappointment as MSU. No comparison.

**jagaf22** · 02-06-11, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

You are a typical loser/hater from Illinois, Brock.

I can tell you've been waiting patiently for the last 14 years to say this.

Touche! Evaluate your own team Landers.

**ATP123** · 02-06-11, 03:13 PM

would be if all their guys were playing

**No coincidences** · 02-06-11, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

They lost Chris Allen way before the season, before they were ranked #2, same for redshirts. That's a non-issue. They were ranked #2 a few games INTO the season, not preseason.

This makes zero sense.

They didn't keep that No. 2 ranking long. They lost to the first competitive team they played (UConn) and kept losing from there. They were overrated by the media, who failed to take these things into consideration.

I'm not saying they haven't been a huge disappointment, but that No. 2 ranking was a joke in the first place.

**bamacards** · 02-06-11, 03:40 PM

..SEC West are right up there too

i don't think anybody thought the sec west was going to be good

**bamacards** · 02-06-11, 03:40 PM

..SEC West are right up there too

i don't think anybody thought the sec west was going to be good

**d2bets** · 02-06-11, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

This makes zero sense.

They didn't keep that No. 2 ranking long. They lost to the first competitive team they played (UConn) and kept losing from there. They were overrated by the media, who failed to take these things into consideration.

I'm not saying they haven't been a huge disappointment, but that No. 2 ranking was a joke in the first place.

Well I suppose that goes without saying now, but there it was. I'm just saying, can you recall a team ranked #2 three games into the season then failing to even make the NCAA tourney. I wonder if it has ever happened. And it's not as if they've been decimated by a rash of injuries. Lucious was dismissed recently, but I don't think they've lost any players to injuries for significant time. Duke lost their best player and they're still in the top few.