Payout Delay from 5 dimes...why wud they ask for CC info?

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  • UntilTheNDofTimE
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-29-08
    • 9283

    #1
    Payout Delay from 5 dimes...why wud they ask for CC info?
    Ok so this has been going on for about 3 weeks. I dont know all the details because the 2 people involved in it(not me) are idiots when it comes to the betting industry.

    So one of the guys is a idiot compulsive gambler and steals every cent he can to gmable whether it be from friends family etc...

    So my nieve friend lets say his name is "JJ gold" is always loaning " Pat Venditto" money. And Patty never pays gold back. But gold has a big heart and continually loans out thousands of dollars to patty.

    So basically Partty created a 5 dimes account for JJ gold and borrowed his credit card information to deposit into a account in JJ gold's name. Lets say the deposit was for 2500. He then made a account transfer from golds account to his account. Basically just so he cud make the deposits into his account. Well this was all done from the same IP address.

    Later on patty starts doing this without asking if he could borrow more money. He ended up stealing 4,000 from gold doing this with 2 sportsbooks. So JJ gold gets mad and cancels all his credit cards.

    Patty gets lucky and runs 500 up to 15,000 and when hes requesting a withdrawal they keep telling him the funding card has to be active or some other bs. Why is the card being active even a issue? The money in Patty's account is CASH since it was transferred from another funded account by a credit card. And even if thats the problem why is it relevant, not like they credit your deposits back to your credit card these days.

    The whole story is fishy. Id inquire the account for patty but he wont give me the account information and JJ gold is beginning to get very frustrated since patty owes him 12,000.

    thoughts?
  • OmgUrMom
    Restricted User
    • 02-07-10
    • 8481

    #2
    sounds like you have two morons on your hands, the whole logging into different accounts from the same ip is enough to raise flags by itself, not to mention whatever else these guys did
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    • UntilTheNDofTimE
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-29-08
      • 9283

      #3
      Originally posted by OmgUrMom
      sounds like you have two morons on your hands, the whole logging into different accounts from the same ip is enough to raise flags by itself, not to mention whatever else these guys did
      well its basically like lets say you didn't gamble. And i told you i wanted to borrow your credit card to gamble. I know i cant use your CC to fund my account. so to do it ill create an account for you deposit and transfer the funds to myself. Thats basically what happened. 5 dimes is a top book tho they shud just do a verification process and send the funds. I know they dont want to lose said person as a customer i bet hes lost more than 35k there in the last 3 years. Oh yea hes like 18 and unemployed too....
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      • FourLengthsClear
        SBR MVP
        • 12-29-10
        • 3808

        #4
        5-Dimes are stalling.
        2 accounts from 1 IP is always going to cause problems no matter what.

        Given they believe that something untoward is going on, 5-Dimes are probably worried about a **********.
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        • UntilTheNDofTimE
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 05-29-08
          • 9283

          #5
          Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
          5-Dimes are stalling. 2 accounts from 1 IP is always going to cause problems no matter what. Given they believe that something untoward is going on, 5-Dimes are probably worried about a **********.
          I told the dude to ********** all the money the guy stole from him then he text-ed me a few days later and was like nevermind the dude got lucky and won 15,000 so im gonna get my money.....now its prab too late to do a **********.
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          • whatsgood5
            Restricted User
            • 10-13-09
            • 15359

            #6
            Seems sketchy, good luck...
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            • Bartmeister
              Restricted User
              • 09-10-10
              • 412

              #7
              Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
              I told the dude to ********** all the money the guy stole from him then he text-ed me a few days later and was like nevermind the dude got lucky and won 15,000 so im gonna get my money.....now its prab too late to do a **********.
              By you telling him that, aren't you therefore saying its ok for him to take a free shot at 5dimes? Basically hiding behind the premise of the money was stolen so its ok to do this? This makes it sound like its ok to do this as long as you used a stolen credit card, win and get paid by 5dimes, lose and just do a **********. Some players still try to do a ********** even after winning and receiving a payout. This is what people do who "supposedly" had their identities stolen along with their cc's that were used for sportsbooks anyway.
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              • UntilTheNDofTimE
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-29-08
                • 9283

                #8
                When someone makes deposits without your consent its the same as someone stealing your wallet and charging gas on it. I didnt tell him to charge back the authrized transactions, only the unauthorized ones.
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                • SBR Lou
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-02-07
                  • 37863

                  #9
                  So, let's get this straight. =)

                  Your friend, from his IP address, creates an account in another person's name and begins depositing with his CC information. Then, he creates another account, this time in his name, from the same machine, and funnels the money to himself; and after this hits presumably every single last red flag in the book (not to mention the card is disabled from account 1), you would title the thread 'payout delay'?

                  From what you have shared with us, it sounds more like an overwhelmingly justified fraud concern on the sportsbook's part. You can have your friends e-mail in their account #'s to help@sportsbookreview.com and we can speak to them.
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                  • SBR Lou
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 37863

                    #10
                    Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                    When someone makes deposits without your consent its the same as someone stealing your wallet and charging gas on it. I didnt tell him to charge back the authrized transactions, only the unauthorized ones.
                    Doesn't matter. It costs sportsbooks a lot when you perform a charge-back, not to mention too many of them could cause them to lose the processor entirely. This alleged situation would be the textbook example of what not to do when depositing to a sportsbook by credit card.
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                    • izzo
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-19-11
                      • 107

                      #11
                      What's the problem?
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                      • UntilTheNDofTimE
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-29-08
                        • 9283

                        #12
                        The card wasnt disabled until long after the transactions cleared so 5 dimes got there money. 1 account was already active for approx 2 years. Other account was created to deposit n xfer from. I will let the dude know to email u guys. But since we wudnt give the info to me who knows.
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                        • Bill Dozer
                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                          • 07-12-05
                          • 10894

                          #13
                          Anytime there are two parties involved it creates risk for the book that one will call fraud. When two people have a disagreement the book pays the price. That's why you can't deposit with mom's card. After reviewing the payout, which 5D usually does very fast, they probably see all this. Without actually having the complaint details, I'd say a possible resolution if the book received the initial deposit, is the book pays the winnings in 6 months after the dispute in a non-issue.
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