If you're half white/ half black.....are you counted as Black ?
I guess Obama is Black statistically ?
Isn't Derek Jeter half Black also ? Is he a Black man that looks more White ?
pavyracer
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#2
If you have a parent or grandparent who is black you are considered black.
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Doug
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#3
Originally posted by pavyracer
If you have a parent or grandparent who is black you are considered black.
So if my paternal grandfather was Black, and the other 3 grandparents were White ( so I'm only 25% Black), then I'm a Black man ? I'd probably look more like a Jeter ( in complexion). It would be hard for me to consider myself Black under those circumstances.
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Doug
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#4
Originally posted by pavyracer
If you have a parent or grandparent who is black you are considered black.
What if that Grandparent was half Black, then I'm only 12.5 % Black !
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Doug
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#5
I don't think the Black community would accept me as Black if I was only 25% Black. I'm assuming that physically I'd appear much more White looking than Black.
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JW Cash
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#6
Define white.............
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Deuce
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#7
52% of prison population is too. And???
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ok now what
SBR Wise Guy
11-20-08
578
#8
I'm 1/8th a lot of stuff. Time to go apply for various something-American goodies. . .
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THE PROFIT
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11-27-09
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#9
well, when the government started giving reparations to the natives it seems everyone & their brother was 1/16th fukin Indian & getting grants & interest free loans & opening casinos right & left!
So let the government give reparations to slave descendants & I guarantee it will give a whole new meaning to the old saying
"there's a *igger in the woodpile somewhere!"
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Doug
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08-10-05
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#10
I kind of notice that when you see photos of African peoples in Africa ( like in National Geographic) they are really BLACK, like jet Black. Afro-Americans are the descendants of those that were enslaved from Africa, but few are that BLACK in the US.
I think your average American Negro is like 1/8 th White or so. The slave owners probably banged some of their slaves ?
The Black ancestors were here before many of our White ancestors that came over circa 1900. My own Grandparents were European born, many came over around the turn of the last century.
10,000 years from now there won't be White and Black....everybody will be very multi-racial. I'm not calling that good or bad....but there won't be black, white, asian etc. Everybody will be multi-racial.
Now the 12.9 % that are Black. I guess that includes the half-blacks ?
Maybe it is just census data where everybody calls themself whatever they want to be ?
I guess I'd be Black if I was half and half, but at 25% Black....I'd identify more with the White community. Jeter is probably like 3/4 White.
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masr
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#11
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Doug
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#12
I live in a town that is probably 1% Black ( if that). I'm not planning to move to Detroit, Wash-DC, Birmingham, etc., anytime soon either.
We have to learn to live with each other, and we will ....in time !
Blacks have a bad attitude in general, none are slaves now even their great grandparents were not slaves. Their culture is ****** up, that's what needs to change.
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guitarjosh
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12-25-07
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#13
Originally posted by Doug
So if my paternal grandfather was Black, and the other 3 grandparents were White ( so I'm only 25% Black), then I'm a Black man ? I'd probably look more like a Jeter ( in complexion). It would be hard for me to consider myself Black under those circumstances.
Isn't Hallie Berry like that? U heard only one of her grandparents is black.
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BookiesBernanke
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12-09-10
849
#14
Originally posted by Doug
I would never choose to live in city that is mainly Black ( like a Detroit), but you wont last here with your posting style and your avatar. SBR is supposed to be about gambling, blatantly racist posts will get you banned from here.
I can see both sides of issues. I'm no fan of Blacks in general....they tend to ruin a community and commit more crimes in general, but stuff like "a natural stink" won't fly here. Any place that is over 50% Black is a ghetto, but not every Black person is bad, nor is every Whitie good. Eventually race wont be an issue....but it is 2010.
Things will change in time, just not in my lifetime. We have to learn to co-exist, and we will.
Blatant racism wont help.
If you want to "Blame" somebody, blame your ancestors for enslaving the Negroes in the 1st place. Now they should/ could have a culture that encourages them to learn and succeed in school and such but they don't....
I think you really got through to him, Doug
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nyed1010
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12-05-10
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#15
Race is something that is socially constructed. Biologically, all "races" of the homo sapien(that's us) species are 99.9% identical with the tiniest of differences in our DNA which creates the differences in phenotype such as skin color. What I mean by SOCIALLY constructed, race is what you and others perceive it to be. Think about it this way, what prevents a white person from checking off the black/African American box when filling out a census or any government form or vice versa. If a person that was 1/8th black, but had very light skin and grew up in a white neighborhood, he would be influenced by his environment and his perception of himself to check off the white/caucasian box on the census form.
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THE PROFIT
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11-27-09
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#16
Originally posted by nyed1010
Race is something that is socially constructed. Biologically, all "races" of the homo sapien(that's us) species are 99.9% identical with the tiniest of differences in our DNA which creates the differences in phenotype such as skin color. What I mean by SOCIALLY constructed, race is what you and others perceive it to be. Think about it this way, what prevents a white person from checking off the black/African American box when filling out a census or any government form or vice versa. If a person that was 1/8th black, but had very light skin and grew up in a white neighborhood, he would be influenced by his environment and his perception of himself to check off the white/caucasian box on the census form.
well said. It is not the DNA that makes anyone a certain way, that makes a certain black man commit crime & be a felon or a certain white man to be a racist & have hatred of this said black man. Its ALL environment & culture
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ParlaySucker
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12-11-10
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#17
Originally posted by Doug
I would never choose to live in city that is mainly Black ( like a Detroit), but you wont last here with your posting style and your avatar. SBR is supposed to be about gambling, blatantly racist posts will get you banned from here.
I can see both sides of issues. I'm no fan of Blacks in general....they tend to ruin a community and commit more crimes in general, but stuff like "a natural stink" won't fly here. Any place that is over 50% Black is a ghetto, but not every Black person is bad, nor is every Whitie good. Eventually race wont be an issue....but it is 2010.
Things will change in time, just not in my lifetime. We have to learn to co-exist, and we will.
Blatant racism wont help.
If you want to "Blame" somebody, blame your ancestors for enslaving the Negroes in the 1st place. Now they should/ could have a culture that encourages them to learn and succeed in school and such but they don't....
You know what really makes you think? Black slaves were sold for use by Americans by other blacks and I bet the vast majority of people in Africa would gladly be slaves in America today.....
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ParlaySucker
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12-11-10
10
#18
Originally posted by Doug
I live in a town that is probably 1% Black ( if that). I'm not planning to move to Detroit, Wash-DC, Birmingham, etc., anytime soon either.
We have to learn to live with each other, and we will ....in time !
Blacks have a bad attitude in general, none are slaves now even their great grandparents were not slaves. Their culture is ****** up, that's what needs to change.
I live in a city around about 20 miles from Detroit. The people who live in Detroit are slowly moving out to the surrounding suburbs and turning the once hard working blue collar communities into filth one by one. Now that they have all kinds of government assistance they don't have to live in the slums anymore. They can live in the apartments of nice communities and turn them into slums.
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statnerds
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09-23-09
4047
#19
How do you define black?
Unemployed?
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Doug
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#20
Originally posted by nyed1010
Race is something that is socially constructed. Biologically, all "races" of the homo sapien(that's us) species are 99.9% identical with the tiniest of differences in our DNA which creates the differences in phenotype such as skin color. What I mean by SOCIALLY constructed, race is what you and others perceive it to be. Think about it this way, what prevents a white person from checking off the black/African American box when filling out a census or any government form or vice versa.
Well if you were 7/8 ths white and 1/8 Black you probably would identify /consider yourself to be White and be light skinned of complexion.
How could you really consider yourself Black being only 1/8th Black ?
Half and half is tough...but I guess that makes you Black ! 25% is even tougher...I think I'd call myself White ( in general) if I was 25% Black.
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statnerds
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09-23-09
4047
#21
Can't we just call each other human beings?
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MadTiger
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04-19-09
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#22
Originally posted by Doug
This isn't meant to be racist in nature.
Originally posted by Doug
I live in a town that is probably 1% Black ( if that). I'm not planning to move to Detroit, Wash-DC, Birmingham, etc., anytime soon either. We have to learn to live with each other, and we will ....in time ! Blacks have a bad attitude in general, none are slaves now even their great grandparents were not slaves. Their culture is ****** up, that's what needs to change.
Lakerboy, Jr.?
DO NOT PM ME.
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d2bets
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#23
Eventually all the races will be so mixed that such distinctions will no longer be viable.
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Doug
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#24
Originally posted by d2bets
Eventually all the races will be so mixed that such distinctions will no longer be viable.
I agree, it just won't happen in our lifetimes.
it will occur, though !
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ParlaySucker
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12-11-10
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#25
Originally posted by d2bets
Eventually all the races will be so mixed that such distinctions will no longer be viable.
You wouldn't say that if you weren't American, or at least if you weren't first generation American. Many cultures don't believe in marrying outside their race and have felt that way for thousands of years. It's not about racism, it's about purity of blood, culture and things of that nature.
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pico
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#26
if you're on welfare or in prison.
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McBa1n
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#27
Better question.
Who cares?
Sigh
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nyed1010
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12-05-10
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#28
Originally posted by Doug
Well if you were 7/8 ths white and 1/8 Black you probably would identify /consider yourself to be White and be light skinned of complexion.
How could you really consider yourself Black being only 1/8th Black ?
Half and half is tough...but I guess that makes you Black ! 25% is even tougher...I think I'd call myself White ( in general) if I was 25% Black.
You've missed the point. I meant "consider yourself white" as in considering yourself STRICTLY as white. The hypothetical figure would consider himself 100% white, despite the fact that he is multiracial. 1/8th was definitely a bad example. More like 1/4 would be a better example.
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THE PROFIT
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11-27-09
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#29
well, what is "white"?
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eidolon
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01-02-08
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#30
Mulatto is the correct term.
I'm 100% white. But I always put African-American when asked on paper.
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obamaismyuncle
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12-31-08
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#31
Originally posted by pico
if you're on welfare or in prison.
or listen to rap..
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sickler
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06-05-08
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#32
Originally posted by THE PROFIT
well said. It is not the DNA that makes anyone a certain way, that makes a certain black man commit crime & be a felon or a certain white man to be a racist & have hatred of this said black man. Its ALL environment & culture
Yep, sadly not everyone realizes this.
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THE PROFIT
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11-27-09
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#33
Originally posted by eidolon
Mulatto is the correct term.
I'm 100% white. But I always put African-American when asked on paper.
I may start doing that
I absolutely hate the term african american, I refuse to use it, ever.
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Vegas_bond
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12-09-09
624
#34
If your dick is longer than 10 inches, then you are Black, period.