unemployment vs bush tax cuts

[helicopter23]

Unemployment is gonna pass along with the bush tax cuts. Does anyone know if part of the deal is to extend beyond 99 weeks to say 120 weeks or longer?

[Deuce]

Well this is what is going on here. My brother is on them right now and he just got a notice in the mail stating his were going to run out. He has only had his for 6 months. He received a packet that if he wants to extend he can but he needs to document every interview he attends and reports back with HR signatures and reasons for not hiring or whatever. Pain in the ass but whatever. I don't really understand how you can't extend them, yes 99 weeks is beyond excessive if you ask me but the previous employer is paying for it.

[stevek173]

At least we r getting proactive

[helicopter23]

Well this is what is going on here. My brother is on them right now and he just got a notice in the mail stating his were going to run out. He has only had his for 6 months. He received a packet that if he wants to extend he can but he needs to document every interview he attends and reports back with HR signatures and reasons for not hiring or whatever. Pain in the ass but whatever. I don't really understand how you can't extend them, yes 99 weeks is beyond excessive if you ask me but the previous employer is paying for it.

So people could get more than the current 99 week max??

[MadTiger]

Well this is what is going on here. My brother is on them right now and he just got a notice in the mail stating his were going to run out. He has only had his for 6 months. He received a packet that if he wants to extend he can but he needs to document every interview he attends and reports back with HR signatures and reasons for not hiring or whatever. Pain in the ass but whatever. I don't really understand how you can't extend them, yes 99 weeks is beyond excessive if you ask me but the previous employer is paying for it.

Man, I was on unemployment a while ago (16 years), and I remember filing out names of places I sent CVs to, or had interviews at, but I didn't have to get HR signatures and reasons for not hiring. Damn, they are serious now.

Max unemployment and working my own businesses on the side, and volunteering was one of the greatest times!

[Hotdiggity11]

From what I heard, it will be extended for a year.

[dollarbill]

Man, I was on unemployment a while ago (16 years), and I remember filing out names of places I sent CVs to, or had interviews at, but I didn't have to get HR signatures and reasons for not hiring. Damn, they are serious now.

Max unemployment and working my own businesses on the side, and volunteering was one of the greatest times!

Yep this is how it was back in the day as I remember also.......

More work for both the signer and the UC office but @ least you know with applying for 3 jobs the people are not just staying home or sitting around. The "well" eventually runs dry.....

[milwaukee mike]

99 weeks is absolutely nuts
some of these employers are paying 10% unemployment insurance (tax) right now because of this nonsense, add that to fica and other benefits and it's no wonder people are getting wages/hours cut

[C-Gold]

So how long is reasonable???

1 Year?
2 years?
3 years?
5 Years?
10 Years?

At what point is it welfare and not " Unemployment insurance"? Isn't that was a savings account is for? You say that Republicans are mean and want to cut it, but how long is reasonable? If you've worked 1 job in your life, should you get benefits for infinity? 2 years is too short?

[WeinketoWarrick]

No, they wont add an additional tier (add on to the up to 99 weeks). They're simply going to extend the deadline for filing for the extension (state benefits pay up to 26 weeks, any additional monies is paid for by federal dollars).

[golfrulz]

So how long is reasonable???

1 Year?
2 years?
3 years?
5 Years?
10 Years?

At what point is it welfare and not " Unemployment insurance"? Isn't that was a savings account is for? You say that Republicans are mean and want to cut it, but how long is reasonable? If you've worked 1 job in your life, should you get benefits for infinity? 2 years is too short?

i say give them lifetime unemployment....just take it from the corporate welfare state that was created by republicans.

[drunkenbeaver]

so incredibly tired of people sitting on their ass and waiting for the government to give them my tax dollars.

lazy ass country

[Bill Dozer]

We'll just keep printing money. No need to have taxes.

[Reno Paul]

2 years of Bush Tax cuts (everyone) and 13 months of UI extensions (up to 99 weeks) with other things like earned income credit is what Obama just mentioned now as part of a compromise bill.

[jw]

.. so the Republicans ride in on a wave of cutting the deficit .. and the first thing they agree to is unemployment and tax cut extensions ...



Nice start guys.

[Turd Ferguson]

[beerman2619]

I could careless i work but i got some friends on unemployment. Not going to put people down on unemployment i'd rather be working myself and i know my friends would to. They are only making like 250 a week hard to live off that. People complaining should be happy to have a job. Course the same people complaning. Course the people that are complaining are actually not wanting to work and are pissed that they are not the ones sitting on the couch doing nothing and getting paid for it. Course i've seen some stories of people around 50 worked there whole like for like 20 to 25 years getting laid off. Guess everyone has a different story but i can't compare unemployment to welfare. Alot of people on welfare have never worked a day in there life.

[GimpedMaster]

Wait, what's the diff between unemployment and welfare?

[beerman2619]

you kidding whats the difference between unemployment and welfare? You think most the people on unemployment wanted to be out of work? Think most of them got laid off because the company they worked for either went out of business or job went overseas. I also think alot of people on welfare haven't worked much in there life. I don't think you can compare the two unless someone on unemployment goes over like a year or so on it. Obviously you should be able to find a job in a year or two.

[itchypickle]

Wait, what's the diff between unemployment and welfare?

In fairness....at least unemployment is paid into somewhat by workers....insurance.....but it was originally 19 weeks worth....some are now going on 2 years of getting benefits which is nuts.

[beerman2619]

I agree with that 2 years is way to long. I admit couple years ago i was laid off and was on unemployment for 2 months. Found a job and am still working there i just don't think you can compare it to welfare. I guess you could if someone is on it for 2 years though sounds like that person is just being lazy not wanting to work.

[agharah1]

Unemployment benefits are vested. You *EARN* them while you work at your previous job. Welfare benefits are primarily designed to keep children from starving to death or dying of treatable illnesses. This is America, not North Korea.

The extension of unemployment benefits does not extend the 99 week max, it just extends the period of time for which 99 weeks is available rather than the standard 26 weeks. Also, the standard 26 week benefits are what the state and employer pays for, the rest is federal subsidy.

All in all, this is a victory for Obama. He essentially forced the Republicans to stop trying to scuttle the economy to make him look bad, and he forced them to admit the deficit is not a problem.

[beerman2619]

agharah great post bro.

[WeinketoWarrick]

No, terrible post.

Workers DO NOT pay into unemployment. The employer does via taxes.

Huge misconception, but it doesn't work like health insurance...

[beerman2619]

my bad

[BatemanPatrickl]

I've spoken to some long term unemployed people and trust me there are reasons why these people are unemployed.

[rkelly110]

No, terrible post.

Workers DO NOT pay into unemployment. The employer does via taxes.

Huge misconception, but it doesn't work like health insurance...

Depends on where you live, here in PA, yes workers do, albeit small.

[forloveofthegame]

so incredibly tired of people sitting on their ass and waiting for the government to give them my tax dollars.

lazy ass country

this

[flyingillini]

I think they should cut off all unemployment. Go work at McDonald's if you have to.

[beerman2619]

yeah i agree i mean how many people are unemployed right now they could all work at Mcdonalds might have to build a few more of those though.

[Waterstpub87]

Its tough for people who are over qualified to get hired at places like that. The employer knows that your just going to dip out when you get a better job. They'd rather hire someone with a GED then an MBA

[Andy117]

No, terrible post.

Workers DO NOT pay into unemployment. The employer does via taxes.

Huge misconception, but it doesn't work like health insurance...

In NJ they do.

[denn333]

i know a couple people who got laid off, they call it downsizing. They are know getting about 800 a month in unemplyoyment compensation.

Their is a lot of competition for most jobs in our area, and they consider themselves lucky when they get an interview.

[WeinketoWarrick]

Ok, in a few states employees contribute a very small percentage relative to the amount paid.

Generally speaking though, its liable employers paying a quarterly tax. That's where greater than 99% of the funding comes from for regular state benefits. For anything beyond the first 26 weeks of a claim its on to the federal dollar and building up that deficit.

[Grandmaster B]

i say give them lifetime unemployment....just take it from the corporate welfare state that was created by republicans.