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  • Cap dat 4ss
    Restricted User
    • 10-11-10
    • 3665

    #1
    Would Michael Vick have been better if....
    What if Vick didn't go to prison, What kind of player do you think he would be today? Better than he right now, not as good, about the same, etc....

    I think the time in prison made him a better person and really appreciate his freedom and opportunity to play in the NFL. I think him sitting out a year behind Mcnabb helped him grow as a QB. I think that Vick today is a better player because he was out of the game for 2 years.

    What say you?
  • Jimmy0607
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-09-09
    • 7785

    #2
    I agree 100% before he was just a thug with talent now he's a real NFL QB that can also hurt you in every way
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    • Mikail
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-19-09
      • 21689

      #3
      Agreed. I think being in prison made him appreciate what opportunity he had. Once he had his second chance now he is making the most of it. The guy always had the talent. Now he has the motivation. Vick is the QB to keep an eye on for the remainder of the season. I'm interested in seeing how far he can lead this young Eagles team full of talent.
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      • tltaylor89
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-19-09
        • 19610

        #4
        He wants a $100 million contract.
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        • milwaukee mike
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-22-07
          • 26914

          #5
          i also agree he is better now than he would've been
          kind of like josh hamilton
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          • smarsh816
            SBR High Roller
            • 11-16-10
            • 184

            #6
            yea most def he even said himself if he didnt go to prison he would have never changed the way he approached the game
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            • CntryBoy
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-14-10
              • 415

              #7
              Agreed... he'd be good either way I think. Back then he was one hell of an athlete that played QB. Now he values it more and has become a QB that's also one hell of an athlete!
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              • lordswing
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 02-22-09
                • 765

                #8
                not as good, and he even admitted it himself. before he'd slack off with watching film and relied more on his talents.

                it also helps that he has the best set of young receivers to throw to
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                • stealthyburrito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-12-09
                  • 21562

                  #9
                  prison or no prison, he would be the same player either way.
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                  • goofyre
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-20-10
                    • 1933

                    #10
                    Prison changed him a ton. He went from having everything to nothing very quickly. It's hard to not have an appreciation to get a 2nd chance and learn from mistakes.
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                    • pmidy88
                      Restricted User
                      • 07-17-10
                      • 220

                      #11
                      vick is broke he comin out the gate hungry
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                      • cal
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 09-08-10
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Maclin and Jackson are also much better than the caliber of White and Jenkins at the time Vick was with the Falcons.
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                        • SHADYLANKY
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-13-09
                          • 1137

                          #13
                          It changed him for the better. But to be a true elite QB he has to win in the playoffs. If he doesn't protect the ball better when scrambling he is going to get in trouble in the playoffs. He has a shot to be the best QB in the NFL though between his arm and his legs. Now he just needs the mental side to catch up completely. I think he will see more blitzes especially from his left.
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                          • Smogs
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-31-08
                            • 4173

                            #14
                            I think we all agree he has become better having served his time.
                            He was paid next to nothing relatively last year - showed his hunger and desire and has taken the next step to a top 5 QB.
                            His running dimension has been crucial, but his composure and throwing ability has been stepped up massively.

                            What a great turnaround
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                            • bsumje3
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 11-21-10
                              • 6

                              #15
                              The Giants should have constantly brought pressure. They really started getting after Vick and affecting his game. He was reverting back to his old habits (poor ball security, head down, etc). It will be interesting to see team's game plans against Vick for the rest of the year. I would imagine a lot of relentless pressure.
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                              • emoney
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-12-09
                                • 1481

                                #16
                                After being in prison, he will not take anything for granted.
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                                • RonPaul2008
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-08-07
                                  • 6741

                                  #17
                                  It is indisputable that he is a much better quarterback today then he was before he went to prison.

                                  Would he have grown into the QB he is today if he had not went to prison and played that whole time? Who knows?
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                                  • itchypickle
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-05-09
                                    • 21452

                                    #18
                                    He got more shifty in the clink.....has to learn to juke and duck guys trying to tackle him for the booty in close quarters....scrambling in the pocket with pads is easy now
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                                    • ProfaneReality
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-14-09
                                      • 7607

                                      #19
                                      I have no love for Vick.. texted my buddy during the game saying I wanted to see his leg get Theismanned
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                                      • Stinger
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-31-10
                                        • 918

                                        #20
                                        As a Falcons fan, I'm happy for him, everybody deserves a second chance.

                                        Hasn't really hurt our team losing him though, MATTY ICE is a BEAST!
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                                        • Kav
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-25-09
                                          • 3281

                                          #21
                                          he admitted himself that he stiffed the falcons organization by only giving it his all on the field. outside of that he didnt give a shit. now all he does is stdy football 24/7 prison made him a better person all around, as a human and football.
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                                          • ProfaneReality
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-14-09
                                            • 7607

                                            #22
                                            how the hell can you guys speak on what kind of person he is now? oh, by what he says in front of cameras ?? give me a break
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                                            • GunShard
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-05-10
                                              • 10031

                                              #23
                                              He would have been paid $100 million if he did not do those crimes.
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                                              • TrapperDapper
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-20-10
                                                • 502

                                                #24
                                                I'm not sure he would of ever got the coaching to turn him into what he is today.
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                                                • beerman2619
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-24-09
                                                  • 7752

                                                  #25
                                                  can't believe some of you clowns say Mike Vick is a better person. This guy is still a thug and low life scum. Every play he drops back i hope someone breaks his leg or better yet maybe an injury that leaves him paralyzed. Screw this guy funny he didn't look to good tonight playing against a actual good defense.
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                                                  • THE PROFIT
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-27-09
                                                    • 17701

                                                    #26
                                                    he needs the fukin money now more than ever, thats why hes playing better.
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                                                    • THEGREAT30
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 10-04-08
                                                      • 8970

                                                      #27
                                                      SBR is full of know-it-all wanna-be gangsters and thugs, hopefully you guys get something that will give you the oppurtunity to change your lives rather than an untimely death
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                                                      • plzkthx
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 11-25-09
                                                        • 487

                                                        #28
                                                        I partly agree with that. But I think he's getting cocky just like the old mike Vick.
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                                                        • Naz18
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-10-09
                                                          • 4277

                                                          #29
                                                          Who gives a fuk what Vick did....dogs are just like any other animal, only because America has a fetish for Dogs....people are so damn weak.
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                                                          • sportsfun
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-05-05
                                                            • 1055

                                                            #30
                                                            we'll just have to see how Vick does when it matters, playoffs.
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                                                            • Cap dat 4ss
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-11-10
                                                              • 3665

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by beerman2619
                                                              can't believe some of you clowns say Mike Vick is a better person. This guy is still a thug and low life scum. Every play he drops back i hope someone breaks his leg or better yet maybe an injury that leaves him paralyzed. Screw this guy funny he didn't look to good tonight playing against a actual good defense.


                                                              By saying Vick is still a thug and low life scum you actually mean he's still black. See, while you don't come out a say it, you clearly sterotype Vick based off of his skin color. What other proof do you have that he is still a thug? Low life scum? Anything? Bueller.................. Bueller................?

                                                              The fact is none of us know him away from the cameras and so far he appears to be saying the right things and staying away from trouble so I give him the benefit of the doubt. People change for the better all the time. Has he fukked up since prison to warrant being called a thug and scum?

                                                              I'm pretty sure we've all fukked up big enough to warrant a second chance. But to say you hope someone ends up paralyzed shows what a low life scum you are. Now GTFO out of here you piece of shit.
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                                                              • Cap dat 4ss
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 10-11-10
                                                                • 3665

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                                He got more shifty in the clink.....has to learn to juke and duck guys trying to tackle him for the booty in close quarters....scrambling in the pocket with pads is easy now
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                                                                • zjohnzzz
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-15-10
                                                                  • 517

                                                                  #33
                                                                  definitely made him better, prolly a better person too
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                                                                  • marcoloco
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-05-10
                                                                    • 3986

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i agree,better player after prison. humbled him and is more mature
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