Is Line Movement Really Important?

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  • NicksPicks
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    • 01-22-10
    • 569

    #1
    Is Line Movement Really Important?
    I've been gambling for a while and am up overall about $527 this season. The only time I care about line movement is it moves unfavourablt for my planned wager.

    However I keep hearing ppl talk about "steam" and watching for big line movements. Are u supposed to bet the opposite way the line moves? Are you supposed to "fade the public"?

    Does anybody watch line movements as part of their betting strategy and how so?

    Thx!
  • doublej95
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-26-10
    • 14094

    #2
    Reverse Line Movement
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    • ronald
      SBR MVP
      • 10-31-05
      • 4918

      #3
      No, line movement is not that important. As Sammy In Charge has been saying, the important thing is to "work as hard as you can!"
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      • statnerds
        SBR MVP
        • 09-23-09
        • 4047

        #4
        depends on the market and the movement
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        • big0mar
          SBR MVP
          • 01-09-09
          • 3374

          #5
          It should be one of the things you look at. The key is how much you value it compared to other factors.
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          • chilidog
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-05-09
            • 10305

            #6
            Originally posted by ronald
            No, line movement is not that important. As Sammy In Charge has been saying, the important thing is to "work as hard as you can!"
            Considering his record for the season, that's not much to pay attention to...
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            • mike1814
              Restricted User
              • 01-14-10
              • 199

              #7
              yes it sure does. traking movement where the smart moneys go
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              • raydog
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-07-07
                • 6984

                #8
                line movement and price means everything...you cannot beat the oddsmakers, you can only try to beat closing numbers...having outs is key and dont forget, you cant win everygame
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Most of time it is pure luck when you bet and get a good number, no one knows how line will move throughout the course of a day.

                  Line movement does not mean much because if it did no one would work
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                  • rake922
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-23-07
                    • 11692

                    #10
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                    • raydog
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-07-07
                      • 6984

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      Most of time it is pure luck when you bet and get a good number, no one knows how line will move throughout the course of a day.

                      Line movement does not mean much because if it did no one would work
                      if the kids here could only see you work coach... boyz, dont listen to this fukk... he subscribes to the most expensive lines service and waits around all day long for line movement alerts and then he hammers the slow moving books...FACT!
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                      • RonPaul2008
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-08-07
                        • 6741

                        #12
                        There are some really clueless people in this thread. NOTHING is more important then line movement. If you can be nicely on the right side of line moves you will make $.
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                        • The Seer
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-29-07
                          • 10641

                          #13
                          Originally posted by raydog
                          if the kids here could only see you work coach... boyz, dont listen to this fukk... he subscribes to the most expensive lines service and waits around all day long for line movement alerts and then he hammers the slow moving books...FACT!
                          Goldie is a huge steam bettor
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                          • phillybadboy
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-11-09
                            • 9383

                            #14
                            i dont know who to believe
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65084

                              #15
                              not all line movement is created equal, so yes its important
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                              • ACoochy
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-19-09
                                • 13949

                                #16
                                Depends on the sport...Ive noticed line movement is a reliable predictor in NCAAB (well as reliable as ur gonna get in gambling) yet in the NBA it doesnt matter as much. Learn how to pick ur spots and go from there imo....GL
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                                • blueghost
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-11-09
                                  • 1715

                                  #17
                                  only use it if i cant make my mind up or didnt study the game last step before coin flip
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                                  • raydog
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-07-07
                                    • 6984

                                    #18
                                    if you arent following line moves, all you are doing is coinflipping...your guts and guesses cant beat the books...dont kid yourself
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                                    • k13
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-16-10
                                      • 18104

                                      #19
                                      lines moves and public perception is the only thing you need in the nfl

                                      you don't even need to know one player on the team or even watch a game.

                                      When a line does NOT move at all is just as important.
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82775

                                        #20
                                        #1 opening line
                                        #2 line movement

                                        The opening line will always give you an idea what the right play is. Line movement confirms it. The art is to guess the right play before the line movement.
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                                        • Augustus
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-05-06
                                          • 2787

                                          #21
                                          Lines movement and public perception are important in college sports, especially when some players have accepted $ to lose a game or not to win a game by a certain number ...
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                                          • Dank_Fire
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-13-09
                                            • 2269

                                            #22
                                            There are some tricks...but it takes a lot of screen watching to become familiar
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                                            • BEANTOWNJIM
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-12-05
                                              • 4610

                                              #23
                                              OVER 202 INDIANA LAST NIGHT I THOUGHT I WAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE WHEN THE LINE WENT TO 205 I ONLY LOST BY ABOUT 25 POINTS F-CK THE LINE MOVES I HAVE HAD MORE LINE MOVES WORK AGAINST ME
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                                              • NicksPicks
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-22-10
                                                • 569

                                                #24
                                                Ok, the consnsus here is that it IS very important, perhaps MOST important. Can someone please give me an EXAMPLE of how you are supposed to use line movement when choosing your bets? Someone said "reverse line movement?"
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                                                • NicksPicks
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                                                  • 01-22-10
                                                  • 569

                                                  #25
                                                  Pts given to the good explanations/examples.
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                                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 08-24-10
                                                    • 65084

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NicksPicks
                                                    Pts given to the good explanations/examples.
                                                    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Like I said if you just bet line moves and think your on the right side you will end up in the poor house

                                                      No system works
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                                                      • The Seer
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-29-07
                                                        • 10641

                                                        #28
                                                        to alot of guys that's like you asking a magician to reveal how he does his trick
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                                                        • dynamite140
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-05-08
                                                          • 4958

                                                          #29
                                                          Okay imagine the colts are going to play the carolina panthers in carolina. Lets assume colts are laying 8.5 points as the opening line. But as game day approaches, line falls all the way to 7 and you see from sites that at least 70 percent is betting on colts. I mean if that much people bet on the Colts... wouldn't the line shoot up to 9? Why is it going down? Obviously you won't win every time but chances are Carolina +7 will cover.

                                                          Or something like Miami Heat playing at home against Orlando Magic and Heat are laying 9 points. First of all your thoughts are 9 is way too much points to lay to the magic and they are a superb team and then as game time approaches, line shoots up to 10 and you see majority of people are betting on the Heat yet they are getting 1 more extra point which doesn't make sense. That is reverse line movement. Of course Magic could cover the game with ease but i know reverse line movement usually does pretty well.
                                                          Last edited by dynamite140; 11-19-10, 07:53 PM.
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                                                          • NicksPicks
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-22-10
                                                            • 569

                                                            #30
                                                            So..you should bet AGAINST the side in which a reverse line movement has occured, right?
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                                                            • raydog
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 11-07-07
                                                              • 6984

                                                              #31
                                                              rlm is when the "public" is supposedly betting a team real heavy(almost always a favorite), but the number is moving against them and not in their favor...this tells you that some very sharp money was bet on the opposite team the public likes... so you should bet against the public.

                                                              problem around here is there is less than 1% of the people actually pay and use a real, up to the minute lines service with all the correct info... guys around here use sbrlines.com and although its a decent free app. it is about as accurate as a chimp doing calculus. you really have no idea if theres some actual rlm in progress or not. gl
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                                                              • dynamite140
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-05-08
                                                                • 4958

                                                                #32
                                                                Basically you are betting on the side where their line is getting worst as game time approaches. Does that make sense? I don't know whether the answer is yes or no because the way you asked your last question got me confused.
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                                                                • RonPaul2008
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-08-07
                                                                  • 6741

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by raydog
                                                                  rlm is when the "public" is supposedly betting a team real heavy(almost always a favorite), but the number is moving against them and not in their favor...this tells you that some very sharp money was bet on the opposite team the public likes... so you should bet against the public.

                                                                  problem around here is there is less than 1% of the people actually pay and use a real, up to the minute lines service with all the correct info... guys around here use sbrlines.com and although its a decent free app. it is about as accurate as a chimp doing calculus. you really have no idea if theres some actual rlm in progress or not. gl
                                                                  It's called Pinnacle Dynamic Lines and monitoring the other books manually.
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                                                                  • RonPaul2008
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-08-07
                                                                    • 6741

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by dynamite140
                                                                    Basically you are betting on the side where their line is getting worst as game time approaches. Does that make sense? I don't know whether the answer is yes or no because the way you asked your last question got me confused.
                                                                    No...that is not how you bet line moves (if you're doing it properly).
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                                                                    • raydog
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-07-07
                                                                      • 6984

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i used don best until last year and switched to sportsoptions...regardless of what you use, if its not up to the second, you are only costing yourself guys... if your normal wager is 50-100, theres no reason to not pay some each month to get what services offer.
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